For Big Al, Section Red and the rest, I know exactly what the point you're making is...............I am the same with Everton, I walked out of my own wedding reception when the dj played the red shite song (YNWA).............As for badge kissing then pissing off...I give you Mr Rooney (once a blue, always a blue.....my arse).......As for players leaving after being on the treatment table for months, I give you Mr Barmby (the ultimate scumbag)......As for last day moves and dropping my team in the shite...I give you Mr Lescott (pissed off for the Arab Oil money)......... I've been watching Everton since 1971, they've cost me a fortune in cash, numerous girlfriends and two wives, so don't presume to lecture me................Rant over :-) I only joined the site when i saw the topic header and popped in for a chat ....