familystandloyal
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Coming from the guy who calls our manager McSalary and McSciaf
jog on 
Again, another poster concentrating on the names issue as opposed to actually addressing any relevant points/issues raised within the thread.
In hindsight, it has probably helped Ally by using the monikers and allowing the focus to be taken off the real issue of his comptence, or not, in his current position
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Just read it so fuck up
Thanks for your eloquent input, much appreciated.
What exactly do you mean by 'fuck up'?
Just to be clear?
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Cringe.
You are about 24 hours, 4 pages and countless posts too late, try to keep up....
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Should never have been jailed,no wonder the prisons are over crowded.
Whether you agree with the law or not, we ALL know it exists hence why no one sings TBB or The Famine Song anymore.
He thought he was being clever/smart because the show was hosted/broadcast from America.
Limmy is an attention seeking fuckwit who 'made bullets' for the bheasts and was surprised when they fired them at him.
By the same token, she did receive comparable abuse from fellow Scottish born oirish bheasts on the pennticfc boards so surely they should have been dealt with by the courts/law in a similar fashion?
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Making up names like that and McSalary is hardly going to get people to listen to you on this site is it?
Use your head for goodness sake.
It's been quite a few pages/posts since any moniker has been used, I have now as advised/requested used McCoist or Ally.
You make a good point though, as yet again you like many others before you ignore relevant, pertinent points I have raised and focus instead on the names issue.
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The fact that Hearts through FOH have acheived 7,000+ direct debits within 12-18 months as opposed to under 2,000 in 10 years is surely the most damning statistic with regards the RST and should be the final nail in the coffin.
And that's without going into the numerous resignations, allegations of e-mail jhacking and financial shenanigans, assaults by RST board members (Dungwallet on a rival fanzine seller at WRC) the list is almost endless, they have next to no credibilty with the vast majority of the Rangers support and should do the best thing for the club and go away.
After the blatant and shameful pro-rebel antics pre-AGM I'm amazed that anyone at Ibrox even talks to them.
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Sure I can
I've got loads of examples
Is the previous post genuinely saying that Ally sticks up for the club & fans?
Seriously??
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What's the chance of the poor wee soul, passing comment on her being verbally abused by her own?.
Not much I'd say. She would,
no doubt, cry uber harassment if asked to comment. She's a poor wee victim after all.
As I posted earlier in thread...
"The boot fae Bute stated in court that she was too scared to phone a taxi or book a hairdressers appointment in her own name, although it didn't stop her posting selfies, tweeting to mentally il phil about Sevco etc.
She received at least comparable abuse from fellow bheasts too who are sick of her attention seeking shite, this was obviously ignored by MSM and police/courts etc."
There will be screenshots of the abuse she received from the bheasts somewhere, I'm pretty certain a Bear would have saved them and filedthem away for future use.
From memory, didn't she post screenshots of the abuse directed at her on the pennticfc forums on her twitter, which enraged the filthy bheasts even more as they knew that it would/could be used against them, so she quickly deleted them.
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And so you deem it appropriate to give him a moniker which is in reference to a paedo-related charity?
Your are kind of making my point here mate.
I will obviously NOT use my previous moniker related to the charity for Ally again BUT....
SCIAF is imho a sectarian charity with direct links to a medieval voodoo cult which has this very week been slaughtered by the UN for basically being a paedophile ring and refusing to hand the paedos over to the appropriate authorities.
Personally, anyone who associates themselves with such a 'charity' should be reminded of such facts, as I did recently to the wee torn faced cow who came into my work collecting for her 'wee box' for the black babies and when questioned by a naive colleague what SCIAF stood for blatantly lied that the 'C' stood for Christian!!!!
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just read my posts in that topic - its clear I think the letter is a sham. I dont frequent bheast sites either, I read it on here - where it quite clearly states the CF link. Aside from that specific letter, I dont see how - as a public company that has to release accounts every year (at least) ,and a support that is all over the board with regards their every move - Ally can hide anything regarding increases or decreases to his salary
You obviously believe it though- yes?
To answer your points in turn...
As per an earlier post I was not aware of the CF links, maybe I didn't read the original e-mails in this forum or that particular thread?
I use more than one Rangers forum and posted links to the e-mail on both CTB and Gersnet.
Whilst a puiblic company should release accounts at least yearly, would that include detailed specific salary information for individual employees? From memory, i don't tremember seeing such detail in previous accounts I have receieved from club, althoug these were post-admin? The subtle difference being that as far as I am aware, an IPO document must include detailed information on the highest individual earners within the company. So, in theory any employee could request a deferrment of wages pre-IPO enabling a reduced 'false' figure to be reported within the IPO document and their wages would revert to the original level, including any deferrments after IPO document was published. I assume the main reason any employee would request such an action would be to 'hide' his true salary for some reason.
Yes, I do believe the letter is genuine and for the record I also believe that he may well not have been the only individual to make such a request i.e. to hide their true salary from the fans.
As an aside, when McCoist was earning £800k+ per annum was he the highest paid employee at the club?
Did anyone find a link to what Michael laudrup was on at Swansea?
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One he happily fronts and promotes
Just to be clear, is mentioning SCIAF allowed and the promotional work our manager does for them?
Is it just the moniker I used for him, related to the above point, that isn't?
is any 'personal' criticism allowed of McCoist or does it all have to be based on his competence, or not, in his current post?
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this was the topic that discussed the original letter - which was from CF. So yes some of us are aware of it. We just dont take CF as gospel.
I wasn't aware it was from CF, as personally I don't frequent bheast websites/blogs.
As stated earlier I thoiught I had read it on here and supplied links to both Gersnet and DTB forums.
Personally, do you believe e-mail is genuine and that McCoist asked his agent to 'hide' his salary from us?
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Any comment on my post with links and quotes from his agent before you go?
Calling the manager names like that on a Rangers forum is stupid.
It makes the rest of what may be valid points seem pointless.
So, do you believe e-mails I posted were genuine or not?
Were you even aware of them?
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FSL
You make some valid and pertinent points.
However calling Ally "McSalary" and "McSciaf" make you sound like a taig talking about Ally.
I am not calling you a taig as I don't think you are, so why the need for personal insults. You lose the attention and debate to your points.
And I say this very much as a bear who wishes a new manager in place.
I have no idea what 'they' call him, although surely any reference to a paedo-related charity would be seen as a badge of honour by those cunts?
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There are many who will agree with you and many wont re the managerial ability. Nobody will agree with you with regard to the name-calling. That was ill-judged.
Ill-judged yes BUT I am willing to bet that quite a few will agree with the monikers I used.
I was a teenager in the 80's and grew up watching him become a Rangers LEGEND as a player for us, sadly much of his conduct since has been not that I would have expected of a RANGERS LEGEND, and again I would be saying the same even if we were playing exciting, free-flowing football and his managerial competence wasn't in doubt.
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Was it really just "T**g of the Day"?
Is that what he got six months for?
Yet the ex-scum player got off with community service for assaulting police officers when he had previous?
I would have expected some form of protest or complaint over this.
Am I missing something?
Wasn't it the fact the encouraged people to contact and abuse her directly?
The boot fae Bute stated in court that she was too scared to phone a taxi or bok a hairdressers appointment in her own name, although it didn't stop her posting selfies, tweeting to mentally il phil about Sevco etc.
She received at least comparable abuse from fellow bheasts too who are sick of her attention seeking shite, this was obviously ignored by MSM and police/courts etc.
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McCoist is unsackable at the moment, he's unbeaten in the league and still in a cup. And more to the boards reasoning - there are season tickets to be sold, someone has to be paraded in front of the cameras to get us buying and they deem it to be the very man who's giving us shite football in return for our cash. The board would probably like to change the motto of our club to be "Mo' Money, Mo' Money, Mo Money"
imho many Rangers fans, certainly a sizeable minority, if not a majority now see him as holding the team back on the pitch, so wouldn't removing him and replacing him with someone like Michael laudrup for example provide an even bigger boost to ST sales?
Most fellow bears I speak to are fed up of what we are watching every week, and are honestly concerned about how we will fare in the Championship next season under McCoist. Quite a few have even stated that they won't renew there ST for next season if he is still in charge/and we will be watching he same turgid pish every week.
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McCoist is unsackable at the moment, he's unbeaten in the league and still in a cup. And more to the boards reasoning - there are season tickets to be sold, someone has to be paraded in front of the cameras to get us buying and they deem it to be the very man who's giving us shite football in return for our cash. The board would probably like to change the motto of our club to be "Mo' Money, Mo' Money, Mo Money"
imho many Rangers fans, certainly a sizeable minority, if not a majority now see him as holding the team back on the pitch, so wouldn't removing him and replacing him with someone like Michael laudrup for example provide an even bigger boost to ST sales?
Most fellow bears I speak to are fed up of what we are watching every week, and are honestly concerned about how we will fare in the Championship next season under McCoist. Quite a few have even stated that they won't renew there ST for next season if he is still in charge/and we will be watching he same turgid pish every week.
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isn't that a re-post from Charlottes Fakes?
Here's a Gersnet link too, I might have read it on there originally.
http://www.gersnetonline.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?61480-Has-Ally-really-got-the-club-at-heart
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isn't that a re-post from Charlottes Fakes?
I don't know is it, I don't think I read the original e-mail on that forum either, I thought it was on here tbh, nut maybe not.
I just googled for the e-mail and posted the 1st link I found.
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Look if you honestly believe Ally is hoping to be sacked to make some more money then so be it but to me that is stupidity at its most extreme.
If you are willing to go to those depths slating the man (not manager) for what he is doing away from Rangers again this is your won prerogative but your playground nick names for him will not be tolerated on here as you well know, why you choose to do it scream you crave attention.
I've gave you plenty and I'm leaving it here.
By all means continue as you are, I doubt I'll be seeing many more of your posts though.
Any comment on my post with links and quotes from his agent before you go?
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Do you have proof of these emails? The way the whole wage situation was handled by ally and others left a bit of skeptisim with me but you are making accusations beyond that.
Wasn't too difficult to find
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http://dothebouncy.com/main/threads/rm-leaked-e-mail.59443/
Direct quote from Ally McCoist's agent...
"At the time of the IPO, it became apparent that public disclosure of Ally's salary may be necessary in the Prospectus. Ally was concerned at how the fans would react to his salary level and I understand that he wanted to reduce it further to around £200k but with some sort of guaranteed bonus to make it back up."
Seriously, are people on here NOT aware of this stuff????
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Do you have proof of these emails? The way the whole wage situation was handled by ally and others left a bit of skeptisim with me but you are making accusations beyond that.
I am firmly in the belief that we will not progress under ally but some of the adjectives you used above are shameful!
I have seen e-mails from McCoists agent with regards not including his £800k+ salary in the IPO documents, as is required by law in relation the the highest earners at any company,
I have no access to any secret forums etc so I must have seen them somehwhere online and assumed they were/are common knowledge, perhaps someone else can post a link for me?
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You point is that you think McCoist want to be sacked?
That alone is ridiculous.
Added in the petty personal jibes that 99.9% of people on here are going to be offended by is uncalled for.
Why not just call him Ally McCoist, why the need for the bheastly nick names?
Why did he give his shares to people he knew would vote against the current board/owners and in favour of individuals who caused nothing but division amongst the fanbase? Was he too scared to vote against them himself?
Why does he regularly say things ta press conferences totally outwith his remit as a football manager?
Why did he request his agent to hid his salary in IPO from fans?
And that'sjust for starters without even questioning his competence to do the job he is employed to do, at a higher ratte of pay than EVERY other manager in the country and most in the English Premiership.
As for your 99.9% of people on here being offended, surely you are offended by his tretment of certain charities including war veterans as opposed to his willingness to pose for a charity which was slaughtered by a UN commision yesterday for it's involvement in paedopihilia??
jog on 
Supporters Direct meeting
in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom
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As stated above, the perceived credibilty & trust issues based on numerous previous incidents means that imho it may well take a very long time before many Rangers fans wil ever trust the RST again, if at all?
Surely, that is time wasted that would be better spent doing what the RST was originally set up to achieve?
To be blunt, a nagging issue is the fact that many believe that the hacker will return sooner or later as the investigation against him was dropped and the fact he 'resigned' and wasn't sacked/voted off.
I assume you and the other current RST board members realise that he is poison as far as a huge section of the Rangers support are concerned?
The other major concern many have is why should the club/board deal with the RST when the RST was so blatantly pro-rebel/anti-board pre-AGM?