OnlyOneAmoruso

An own goal by myself Was informed via PM who had undertaken the project and amended my post accordingly.

Contacts' information and Willhelm's are two different things. Willhelm has no intention of backing up is innuendo by elaborating on this forum. Why is anyone's guess because I'm not even asking for sources at this stage. Until he does it remains innuendo. My questions to contacts are in another thread but I don't expect those to be answered either which is unfortunate but there's not much that can be done about it. HE. HAS. GIVEN. YOU. TWO. WAYS. OF. FINDING. OUT. AND. YOU. WONT. EVEN. TAKE. ONE. OF. THEM. I can't make it much clearer - if you were that interested - you'd have taken one of the options. You're just shitstirring and you're boring us all now. Either pm him or go away. Who are you to tell people what to do? I've PM'ed Willhelm and it's certainly not any pertinent information (no offence) which relates to the takeover/articles but that's fine. Lay off Phil, he gets a hard enough time on FF without it happening here too

Can you see how people can jump to that conclusion though?

That's a lot of words for capitulation. Not really friend. I was only given a couple of days on Vanguard during the summer. Only a fool would comment fully on things they don't know the ins and outs of. It didn't look like my cup of tea and I have heard some stories but have no concrete opinion either way. I may be many things but I don't consider myself foolish You've heard a few stories?? Care to expand? Let me guess who told you these stories...it wouldn't be the same website owner who tips off Gerry Duffy for dough - would it? Let's hear what you've heard and we'll discuss it.. Missed this. Apologies. No story I feel worth sharing here. You appear to have all the facts though, not stories. I can't hold my breath much longer. If you have information which will make me rethink my stance then I'd be delighted to hear it. Why not PM me and I'll give you my mobile number and we can discuss it. You don't have to hold your breath, just give me a call and I'll tell you man to man. Not sure if you read what I said, you were probably reporting back to Bully HQ at the time. But like others have done, you only need to PM me and ask any question you want. Still not mentioned the properties in Bath St have you? Wonder why? I'm not interested in talking on the phone Willhelm, if thats an attempt to be intimidating.You're making outlandish claims that a few have asked for clarity on. By all means PM me, resurrect my VB login, whatever you want. I'm more than happy to hear what you have to say. It would be good if you could post them on the board, I don't see anything to be afraid of? I did mention the properties. I suggested you checked with The Land Registry before making such foolish claims. I also offered you a little bit of advice. Don't take everything you hear as gospel. It only serves to make you look foolish when you regurgitate it elsewhere.

What heat exactly? Are you saying that Boss and contacts posted their articles to put 'heat' on FF? Pretty baffling if true. Clearly not. Im saying within this thread, people state they dont like Follow Follow for whatever reason and as if by magic, a ton of low-posters arrive to defend it. I at no point mentioned any articles. Ya mad lapdog. But people state they don't like FollowFollow on here every single day. It's almost the single biggest theme of the website Insults won't make me rise to you I'm afraid. Like Willhelm, if you have any facts you wish to share I am all ears.

That's a lot of words for capitulation. Not really friend. I was only given a couple of days on Vanguard during the summer. Only a fool would comment fully on things they don't know the ins and outs of. It didn't look like my cup of tea and I have heard some stories but have no concrete opinion either way. I may be many things but I don't consider myself foolish You've heard a few stories?? Care to expand? Let me guess who told you these stories...it wouldn't be the same website owner who tips off Gerry Duffy for dough - would it? Let's hear what you've heard and we'll discuss it.. Missed this. Apologies. No story I feel worth sharing here. You appear to have all the facts though, not stories. I can't hold my breath much longer. If you have information which will make me rethink my stance then I'd be delighted to hear it.

What heat exactly? Are you saying that Boss and contacts posted their articles to put 'heat' on FF? Pretty baffling if true.

Fire away. My breath is bated. You would be the last person on earth, I would tell anything to. However if anyone who wants to know the truth, wishes to PM me, then I'm up for it. Your obediance is very comendable, care to tell us what your FF role is? Nothing but a poster and an occasional article writer. Frankie & Bluedell will vouch for this. Post if you wish, alternatively PM me.

I have no wish to discuss Vanguardbears other than their excellent efforts with regards to William McBeath. I do not know the inner workings of FF admins. This is bigger than all of us and the sooner some people (on ALL forums) realise this then the better. Until then, we plough on with the protests. (and I don't mean FF/RST) As far as I'm aware VangaurdBears never got the true recoginition they deserve regarding William McBeath. Not on ££ anyway, every other Rangers forum was more than happy to rightly mention the men behind such great work. Infact I'm sure a good amount of posts got chopped that mentioned the VB name. Perhaps a PM to an admin on FF might supply you with more information mate. Sorry I can't provide it for you. Sorry also, if thats me capitulating due to lack of knowledge I wish it was that easy, I would be going round in circles for hours looking for an admin to take the blame. Deny and Deflect; that's the motto. Deny and Deflect is something generally flung at Celtc. I trust you're not comparing?

Fire away. My breath is bated.

I have no wish to discuss Vanguardbears other than their excellent efforts with regards to William McBeath. I do not know the inner workings of FF admins. This is bigger than all of us and the sooner some people (on ALL forums) realise this then the better. Until then, we plough on with the protests. (and I don't mean FF/RST) As far as I'm aware VangaurdBears never got the true recoginition they deserve regarding William McBeath. Not on ££ anyway, every other Rangers forum was more than happy to rightly mention the men behind such great work. Infact I'm sure a good amount of posts got chopped that mentioned the VB name. Perhaps a PM to an admin on FF might supply you with more information mate. Sorry I can't provide it for you. Sorry also, if thats me capitulating due to lack of knowledge

That's a lot of words for capitulation. Not really friend. I was only given a couple of days on Vanguard during the summer. Only a fool would comment fully on things they don't know the ins and outs of. It didn't look like my cup of tea and I have heard some stories but have no concrete opinion either way. I may be many things but I don't consider myself foolish

Dear old Willhelm, you and your inside track. I'd kindly refer you to The Land Registry and advise you not to be believe everything you hear in the future.

I have no wish to discuss Vanguardbears other than their excellent efforts with regards to William McBeath. I do not know the inner workings of FF admins. This is bigger than all of us and the sooner some people (on ALL forums) realise this then the better. Until then, we plough on with the protests. (and I don't mean FF/RST)

Nah, no nerve hit with me. I seen enough to know it's just a condensed version of here. FF Bad - Militant Gooooooood. FF's SOLE reason for existing is to make money for Mark Dingwall? Is that seriously what you are saying? When he started the fanzine it was purely to raise money. Absolutely nothing good has ever came from Follow Follow? No idea how much he made from Manchester, merchandise went down a storm. Club didn't bother, he did, big deal? Emirates tournament during the summer. Good place to meet up and have a drink, no-one bothered about paying a little for the privileges. Think very carefully before you respond because what you think you know and what you definitely know are two very different beasts altogether. Every site is as bad as each other but at least FF doesn't pretend it speaks for the people and is different from other sites

Good Afternoon Willhelm. A whole post designed to fan flames rather than extinguish them. Par for the course I gas (i mean guess) The article was posted on FF, doesn't mean FF is attacking anyone else. So FF are not attacking anyone or any website? You cannot fart on that site without the post being chopped by the lickspittles and cardboard admin team. So if this article was not organised as a personal attack on Contacts (Remember I know the history here) by the profiteering bully, then I'm a Dutchman. As I said, I don't know who said what and who is telling the truth. But I do know one thing. One man has done more damage to the Rangers supporters unity and friendship, than any other person in our history. One man attempts to hijack every organisation for his own aims and profits. And that man is not Contacts. However that aside, the Rangers support are 99% united and most are now seeing the people who divide for what they are. At least you're not threatened with a ban if you don't begin posting immediately once you join FF. Good god, other sites would have nothing to talk about if that was the case. You're not the only one aware of the history. You're also not the only one who doesn't have both sides of the story. Providing services to fans is all well and good and there are certainly very few grumbles from the people whose money is being taken for various nights, day trips, raffles etc. I suppose Erskine is also a big con to line his pockets eh? It isnt like we're talking about Hoopygirl and Mince here, theres no robberies taking place.

I haven't attacked anyone. I questioned boss' motives last night on Gersnet re timing of the article(s). That's it.

Good Afternoon Willhelm. A whole post designed to fan flames rather than extinguish them. Par for the course I gas (i mean guess) The article was posted on FF, doesn't mean FF is attacking anyone else.

It appears that no matter which way we turn we'll be met with the same divisions. You kniow I've tried more than a few times but it's just not happening. Still, in the words of the great man 'We have to take it on the chin and move on'

Your last sentence is quite correct. I still maintain that if this information is not correct then there will be no problem with clarity being given. I don't know what to believe any more but I know that we as a support are in a massive mess.

He's declared open season on others. Let's not pretend there is some sort of halo there... Let's also not pretend he is the devil incarnate. Interesting article. I await one of the authors of RM's weekend articles coming along to clear this mess up. I'd be disappointed if either felt the need to respond to such personal attacks, there is no need to involve themselves in that. Not really a personal attack per se. Contacts stuck his head above the parapet and provided information. Information which is now being refuted. He should have no problem responding to mine and N_L's points.

He's declared open season on others. Let's not pretend there is some sort of halo there... Let's also not pretend he is the devil incarnate. Interesting article. I await one of the authors of RM's weekend articles coming along to clear this mess up.

never mind.

So far removed from reality it is utterly, utterly horrifying. thats it, deny and deflect, ridicule, a last desperate measure do you not like the fact i support the man trying to fix us? is it coz i wont jump on yer ridiculous band wagon? is it coz i blame murray and not the bank? no need to answer lets leave it there Murray is ultimately to blame but as he is out of the picture it is but an irrelevance. But you don't agree on that and therefore this wonderful dance will resume again. So I'll also leave it there.

So far removed from reality it is utterly, utterly horrifying.