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how dare I put that in eh ?
add some humour & lightheartedness to some posts
see if you don't like my posts ?
put me on ignore
fucking pain in the arse so you are, you have a problem with every post I make
GTF
No, he's just an 8000-post taig masquerading as one of the people.
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That'll solve all our problems.
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Vanguardbears is by far the best Rangers forum on the Internet but is very difficult to join for the good reason that it is also the site with the least infiltration of taigs and troublemakers. What you get on VB is 100% undiluted Rangers comment and a commitment to address our many detractors. Not for shrinking violets or hand wringers but neither is it compromised by filth from the dark side continually manipulating opinion.
Gersnet is also smaller but hosts consistently good quality debate in a spirit of self-regulating openness and free speech. Probably the best of the "generalist" Rangers websites ... An acquired taste but definitely well worth persisting with.
FF is so tainted by self-serving politics and censorship that most informed debaters have long since gone elsewhere. It also hosts such an inordinate number of what can best be described as "visitors" that it's impossible to achieve any meaningful debate. Now strictly an entry-point website for all but the lowest common denominators amongst us.
RM is a well-run site, capable of providing reasonable debate and a steady flow of informed comment. Personally, I generally read rather than write here, due a small number of entrenched arse holes who make it their business to impose themselves on virtually every topic, whether they have genuine interest or not, I'm sure everyone knows exactly who I'm describing. This seems to be an inevitable consequence of size and is why smaller websites generally provide the serious commentator the only acceptable option, assuming you can find one that has found the formula to reach beyond being a home for schoolboy comment alone and on that basis I won't offer opinion on any other sites.
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Sad little bastard who needs to be hounded wherever he shows his face. His only identity in life comes from hating Rangers.
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Top five! The primates have finally taken over the zoo?
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It depends what is actually done, but I know of someone who did something similar and ended up doing 8 years.
As do I, although it was about half of that time.
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What is it that drives certain people to exhibit themselves by promoting "information" that they cannot possibly substantiate? What weakness prevents them from either just keeping their own counsel or posting it as the unsupported rumour it always is? Why the need to try to invest these rumours with credibility they don't deserve by expressions of personal faith in un-named individuals who always seem to be waiting for further corroboration from even more opaque and distant sources? Is it a disease ... because is sure is spreading around here.
There now appear to be droves of people who are waiting by the phone for calls from God knows who. Then there are people in the second division who feel the need to announce that, while they're not actually in the front line, they are close to people who are and can't you just see the reflected glory. Fuxxake people, have some dignity.
What is it you come onto forums for exactly when it doesn't involve slating Rangers sites ? The hole point about forums is for debate, and while we're all screaming out for answers in anyone within the support thinks they might have an insight to what's what I'm all ears. Its easy enough to listen to what people have to say and think it over without getting upset with them about it.
You really are a funny creature! All you do is constantly take pot shots at sites and posters while contributing the square root of fuck all really.
Funny creature? Gosh, you've been reading the Hobbit again. Anyway thanks, does that mean you're handing me the same notoriety as your mates, you know, the ones you've spend endless posts propping up and justifying because .... well, because you decided they were right and you just jumped right on the bandwagon. I guess the more you support a rumour, the more you feel you have to keep on justifying it... even if it's obliquely by reminding everyone what thoroughly sound chaps the chaps really are.
What's this "they posted in good faith" shite I keep reading anyway? No one I can see is condemning anyone's faith in these rumours or their right to hold that faith, only their judgement in promoting them for what fairly obviously amounts to "look at me".
You can speculate, theorise, and debate all you like but coming on and saying deals are done and it'll be decided in ten days or whatever is absurd. We've had months of it and, so far, the good faith hasn't excatly amounted to a hill of beans. FFS what used to be described as "sources" have even become "contacts", just to make sure the storyteller is suitably enhanced in the process.
If you think contributing fuck all means I don't spread self-serving stories on football websites then I guess I contribute less than you, cute little pixie that you are.
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Does FF contribute anything positive to Rangers or the general Rangers support?
All I see is dictatorship, control and division emanating from there.
Its akin to living in North Korea I would imagine.
true - you have to wonder why so many people continue to use it.
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What is it that drives certain people to exhibit themselves by promoting "information" that they cannot possibly substantiate? What weakness prevents them from either just keeping their own counsel or posting it as the unsupported rumour it always is? Why the need to try to invest these rumours with credibility they don't deserve by expressions of personal faith in un-named individuals who always seem to be waiting for further corroboration from even more opaque and distant sources? Is it a disease ... because is sure is spreading around here.
There now appear to be droves of people who are waiting by the phone for calls from God knows who. Then there are people in the second division who feel the need to announce that, while they're not actually in the front line, they are close to people who are and can't you just see the reflected glory. Fuxxake people, have some dignity.
Just trying to do my best to get the information out there mate.
You know what I'm talking about .. and who. You also know it wasn't pointed at you.
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What is it that drives certain people to exhibit themselves by promoting "information" that they cannot possibly substantiate? What weakness prevents them from either just keeping their own counsel or posting it as the unsupported rumour it always is? Why the need to try to invest these rumours with credibility they don't deserve by expressions of personal faith in un-named individuals who always seem to be waiting for further corroboration from even more opaque and distant sources? Is it a disease ... because is sure is spreading around here.
There now appear to be droves of people who are waiting by the phone for calls from God knows who. Then there are people in the second division who feel the need to announce that, while they're not actually in the front line, they are close to people who are and can't you just see the reflected glory. Fuxxake people, have some dignity.
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As others have probably read, a few posters on follow follow with "sources" (dont know how reliable these guys are btw) are saying there will be news tonight and we will all find out basically whether this deal is going to happen or not and the ins and outs. As i said its just what ive read on that forum and dont know how reliable it is over there !!!
The posters are reliable. It's just whether their sources are giving out reliable information is the question.
I don't buy that bollocks. If someone posts something that doesn't turn out to be true then you can't go blaming it on his sources. Everyone takes responsibility for what they post.
Yeah, the sources shouldn't take any blame.
You always have the choice - post or don't post. If you choose to post then take responsibility for it. Can't see what you're rolling your eyes about BD.
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As others have probably read, a few posters on follow follow with "sources" (dont know how reliable these guys are btw) are saying there will be news tonight and we will all find out basically whether this deal is going to happen or not and the ins and outs. As i said its just what ive read on that forum and dont know how reliable it is over there !!!
The posters are reliable. It's just whether their sources are giving out reliable information is the question.
I don't buy that bollocks. If someone posts something that doesn't turn out to be true then you can't go blaming it on his sources. Everyone takes responsibility for what they post.
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I find it very sad that we have smarmy wee arseholes in this generation of rangers fan. I'm 20 years old and can proudly say that my mates and I are nothing like this.
I have nothing to do with VB, but i agree with what the lads are saying here. The fact they cant even get a straight answer in cowardly.
mmrfc there is a god awful stench of T*rrier from u, feck your post count. And boab, are you the famous boab who grasses fellow fans?
This made me laugh
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Personally i wouldn't engage with Manticore as he brings nothing of value to the original concerns raised earlier in this thread.
The focus is on Moonlighter and how we get him to engage with all Rangers sites for the good of the entire Rangers support.
You're right of course. He's got a voice, it's just not his own.
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I give up.
I would as well if I were you.
I won't though.
The situation here is clear enough. Moonlighter hasn't defended his position at all and, beyond a brief show of petted lip, he hasn't even attempted to. What happened instead is that you 'decided' to turn up - not to discuss the very topic you described as having been de-railed but simply to undermine the growing validity and consensus surrounding the absurd and craven behaviour of Moonlighter. The transparency is matched only by your predictability. Do you have ANY point to make about the Founder Trail or those running it? Any point at all? Or are you just another from the same stable as Moonlighter, ridden by the same master eh?
You've got your protected thread elsewhere, you clearly don't want to make any contribution to this topic beyond squealing for admin to start showing red cards, so scuttle off pal - you've nothing to offer at all.
Much as though I am flattered by your attention, you seem to think that I am in some way accountable to you and you are wrong in that regard.
I could even interpret your comments as you thinking that in some way I am also accountable for this moonlighter chap, who I am sure has excellent reasons for whichever message board(s) he chooses to post on.
As for this thread I made my point - that it has been derailed from its original purpose.
People seem to think this is some sort of attempt at limiting Freedom of Expression. But only people who don't really understand the concept.
Since then i've just had an exchange with my pal sonOwilliam who frankly is unique, I love his posts.
I have no idea what you mean by 'ridden by the same master' and 'You've got your protected thread elsewhere'.
But I'll not scuttle off as you so nicely put it I'll stick around so long as I choose
It's quite ironic to be invited to 'scuttle off' by somebody who has derailed a thread they didn't start because I pointed out that this is the case....
And I do like irony.
So basically, still nothing at all to say about the Founders Trail or the dreadful attitude shown by those running it. Only more about yourself - your point, your pal, you'll stick around, you like irony. Why don't you just pick up a mirror, you'll get everything you want there. Oh, and for the avoidance of any doubt, SoW says you're no pal of his.
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Would it derail this thread entirely if I asked whether this valuable and interesting information is being made available on all Rangers websites I'm sure they would all love to learn more and have the opportunity to ask questions.
This
Actually, I think this is actually hugely interesting and confirms my intention to go on one of these tours. Great pictures, really worthwhile.
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I give up.
I would as well if I were you.
I won't though.
The situation here is clear enough. Moonlighter hasn't defended his position at all and, beyond a brief show of petted lip, he hasn't even attempted to. What happened instead is that you 'decided' to turn up - not to discuss the very topic you described as having been de-railed but simply to undermine the growing validity and consensus surrounding the absurd and craven behaviour of Moonlighter. The transparency is matched only by your predictability. Do you have ANY point to make about the Founder Trail or those running it? Any point at all? Or are you just another from the same stable as Moonlighter, ridden by the same master eh?
You've got your protected thread elsewhere, you clearly don't want to make any contribution to this topic beyond squealing for admin to start showing red cards, so scuttle off pal - you've nothing to offer at all.
Can't wait for his reply on this one.
Why? Do you honestly think he has one. His empty one-liners and pathetic deflections cut no mustard here.
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I give up.
I would as well if I were you.
I won't though.
The situation here is clear enough. Moonlighter hasn't defended his position at all and, beyond a brief show of petted lip, he hasn't even attempted to. What happened instead is that you 'decided' to turn up - not to discuss the very topic you described as having been de-railed but simply to undermine the growing validity and consensus surrounding the absurd and craven behaviour of Moonlighter. The transparency is matched only by your predictability. Do you have ANY point to make about the Founder Trail or those running it? Any point at all? Or are you just another from the same stable as Moonlighter, ridden by the same master eh?
You've got your protected thread elsewhere, you clearly don't want to make any contribution to this topic beyond squealing for admin to start showing red cards, so scuttle off pal - you've nothing to offer at all.
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This subject hasn't changed since this thread started so i don't see where it derailed.
I'm very interested in knowing before i go anywhere and I'm also very interested in getting our support to unite are you not Manticore.?
It went from being about the Trail to squabbling about where it should be advertised/ promoted, I'm sorry if that's a bit complicated for you.
As for getting our supporters to unite this thread is proof that that very thing will never happen.
I must be missing something here. Are you suggesting by default that the cause of unity will be promoted by refusing to engage with all supporters equally - and that pointing this out and offering opportunities to remedy the situation is somehow divisive? You don't seem to be short on the sarcasm but I'm not so sure I see the actual contribution you're trying to make yourself.
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Fuksakes Admin, can you not do something about this thread on a very important subject being derailed?
It's not like you've never censored posts that refer to other sites....
Utter nonsense, nothing has been derailed at all. The entire thread has remained firmly 'on topic' from start to finish. In case you haven't been able to bring yourself to actually read the posts, the thread started about the Founders Trail and remains about the Founders Trail.
You seem awfully fond of censorship, could it be that perspectives have emerged that you feel intuitively uncomfortable with.
If you feel there is an angle to this that isn't being explored then why aren't you posting about it instead of trying to deny the space for debate.
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For those who might find this useful
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Whats clear is, grandmaster suck, another name for mark dingwall, the owner and only profit taker from ff, is making money from the founders trail despite claims to the contrary.
Hardly the benign "Rangers First" operation we've been led to believe then? Perhaps Moonlighter isn't calling all the shots he claims either?
Why is that those who most readily claim the moral high ground so often turn out to be the ones with the most to be ashamed of. Moonlighter knew this when he fairly squealed in outrage yesterday. Bizarre and disappointing ... yet again.
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The Founders Trail Organiser(s) could, in a gesture of goodwill, arrange a Vanguardbears day out on the Founders Trail, for free.
You're funny
It would be a magnificent gesture, something that could sweep away all acrimony. I cant speak for VB, but Im sure the folk there would be delighted to recieve such an invitation. What about it Founders Trail Organiser(s)?
Tongue firmly in cheek at the "for free" comment.
To be fair 4baab, I think everyone fully understood you weren't actually suggesting VB got anything for free.
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Not sure it's entirely wise just to take the word of people on here without making up your own mind about the various forums available. How will you ever reach your own opinion if you don't try them?