sonOwilliam

You're a real charmer aren't you. I feel I've made it pretty clear I don't think all Cork fans like Rangers, like I don't think all Glentoran fans don't, I'm not sure why your struggling with this although reading your posts it maybe because English doesn't seem to be your first language. Save me the lecture on learning Irish history too, the last time you opened a book it starred Janet and John, and you probably didn't finish it either. Good to know you've written off the entire population of a city based on a meeting with a group of guys in a bar, I wonder if they've done the same with you. Robbie Keane's from Dublin. Look i don't want to get into a whole debate here all i know is that you talk the biggest crap ive ever heard, im living here in Londonderry for all my life i know what the irish are like and about that incident in the bar that was just one example, if you thought i was saying that because thats what a population of a city is like you talk more than what i thought, and as for irish history i didn't need to read a book for that we get taught our history at school dating from 5th century when st patrick, plantition, battle of the boyne, seige of derry all the way though to modern day history of ireland so why do i need to read a book its in my lifestyle.

Can you think of anything you like about Eire? You sound extremely bitter to be honest. EIRE thats a fenien or irish language way of saying ireland, what team do you support.??

Dont think anyone was kicked out although we were threatened that we would get kicked out when we burst into the billy boys Funny you say, that happened to me one time, wasn't there on sunday but was threatened i'd love to make a big massive banner saying Whats Wrong With The Billy Boys ???

I hate to say this but history shows alot can happen in a couple of games though, call me a spoil sport but it aint over just yet until the fat lady sings.

I'm in no position to comment on your mates and who they support and I've never claimed that all Glen's men are like that, likewise I very much doubt most Cork fans are either. But some are. It simply underlines that sometimes our perceptions of who people support in NI and ROI aren't accurate. As I've said above if the Keane's had been a bit more honest in their reasons for going to Celtic maybe we would view Ireland a little differently. Ok i no your trying to be smart on what your saying but do you really believe that crap. Cork is the biggest republican hole outside of county tyrone do you seriously believe that, and the biggest concidence of all thats where both Keane's are from.?, honestly you need to learn abit about irish history and you will see that must be a very very small minority, and why do i need to percept i was born and live here in Northern Ireland i know what the irish are like. And i agree ok most can be good to you but that is just a front because when it comes to loyaltys they swing to the otherside, as i said before i meet a crowd of Cork lads on holiday once they where all great chating to what they thought was another irish lad then i told them im a Rangers fan they soon turned on me and my girlfriend we had to leave the bar as they where singing celtic and republican songs FACT. So don't be foolish.

Right lets go though all you have said then ill label them 1, 2, 3 etc, 1. first of all if your from the north your british NOT irish ok supporting Rangers actually makes us feel part of the UK supporting a team what the irish don't support. 2. That about glentoran fans is rubbish, i know alot of Glentoran fans and nearly them all support Rangers, i goto alot of irish league matches myself and most of the teams except cliftonville, newry and so on sing Rangers songs even Glentoran. 3. What is there not to understand, there both from Ireland where most don't like anything with a Union Jack, hints why they support Celtic too. 4. I would never ask for a irish player to play for our club that just ruins the point altogether. OK, thanks. point 1, Fair enough, point taken, my bad. 2. No it isn't rubbish, I know some who refuse to support a team in blue, (that doesn't mean they choose Celtic though), I know some that hate Linfield more than they love Glentoran, or so it seems to me and I know some who very much like Rangers. 3. It's the "supports Celtic too" that seems odd. I can't imagine supporting two teams and I certainly can't imagine claiming to have always wanted to play for Liverpool, claim they were my boyhood heroes, and then 18 months later say exactly the same thing about Celtic. It simply sounds false. For most of us we support Rangers, no one else really matters. 4. If an Irish player joined Rangers he'd become a Rangers player in my eyes, end of story really. I goto Coleranie and Linfield matches and even an odd Glentoran match as all my mates all support either one of them and we all go together every Saturday or when time lets us, and im hearing and chating to fans of them teams who most of them i know very well and i can tell you now most of them all support Rangers you may say as a second or third team for the fact of there own British identity simples. And as for the roy and robbie keane thing its the same but vise versa for the irishness or fenien identitys.

Right lets go though all you have said then ill label them 1, 2, 3 etc, 1. first of all if your from the north your british NOT irish ok supporting Rangers actually makes us feel part of the UK supporting a team what the irish don't support. 2. That about glentoran fans is rubbish, i know alot of Glentoran fans and nearly them all support Rangers, i goto alot of irish league matches myself and most of the teams except cliftonville, newry and so on sing Rangers songs even Glentoran. 3. What is there not to understand, there both from Ireland where most don't like anything with a Union Jack, hints why they support Celtic too. 4. I would never ask for a irish player to play for our club that just ruins the point altogether. OK, thanks. point 1, Fair enough, point taken, my bad. 2. No it isn't rubbish, I know some who refuse to support a team in blue, (that doesn't mean they choose Celtic though), I know some that hate Linfield more than they love Glentoran, or so it seems to me and I know some who very much like Rangers. 3. It's the "supports Celtic too" that seems odd. I can't imagine supporting two teams and I certainly can't imagine claiming to have always wanted to play for Liverpool, claim they were my boyhood heroes, and then 18 months later say exactly the same thing about Celtic. It simply sounds false. For most of us we support Rangers, no one else really matters. 4. If an Irish player joined Rangers he'd become a Rangers player in my eyes, end of story really. I goto Coleranie and Linfield matches and even an odd Glentoran match as all my mates all support either one of them and we all go together every Saturday or when time lets us, and im hearing and chating to fans of them teams who most of them i know very well and i can tell you now most of them all support Rangers you may say as a second or third team for the fact of there own British identity simples. And as for the roy and robbie keane thing its the same but vise versa for the irishness or fenien identity.

Right lets go though all you have said then ill label them 1, 2, 3 etc, 1. first of all if your from the north your british NOT irish ok supporting Rangers actually makes us feel part of the UK supporting a team what the irish don't support. 2. That about glentoran fans is rubbish, i know alot of Glentoran fans and nearly them all support Rangers, i goto alot of irish league matches myself and most of the teams except cliftonville, newry and so on sing Rangers songs even Glentoran. 3. What is there not to understand, there both from Ireland where most don't like anything with a Union Jack, hints why they support Celtic too. 4. I would never ask for a irish player to play for our club that just ruins the point altogether.

Now do you think theres no other reason for Northern Ireland Rangers supporters, who most would support 2 teams too do you think they goto ibrox for the good of there health, you obvisely don't no the sitution to clearly but your close but not close enough.

Wish we had Wier alot sooner, i always wondered why we didn't sign him much earlier strange.?

When I used to play in the band, we would lead the parade in August and what a feeling it was when we walked round the walls in the morning playing right into those bastards. Are you in Blackskull. ? I used to be. Good band always faithful on the 12th of August.

Another good way in looking at it Goat the politcal side of it. It's interesting to note the Provos party support grew when they supposedly announced their 1997 ceasefire. Funny that init best thing is they took all UUP seats, i think just more Republicans turned to the box rather than gun but thats starting to reverse itself today which is worrying

When I used to play in the band, we would lead the parade in August and what a feeling it was when we walked round the walls in the morning playing right into those bastards. Are you in Blackskull. ?

Another good way in looking at it Goat the politcal side of it.

Maybe you did but 'we' certainly didn't. Google would have supplied any number of placenames in Donegal had he wanted to name one, he explicitly stated that he wasn't saying. Just like plenty of us will not advertise where we stay to strangers on the internet. Well there was something fishy about him, he said i live in north west he didnt even say Donegal strange being from Ireland. you been to bed yet? :lol: :lol: Off work so have to make the best out of it.

Now your correct in some aspect of it but, what ive highlighted is the problem and that will never change not in our lifetime.

Maybe you did but 'we' certainly didn't. Google would have supplied any number of placenames in Donegal had he wanted to name one, he explicitly stated that he wasn't saying. Just like plenty of us will not advertise where we stay to strangers on the internet. Well there was something fishy about him, he said i live in north west he didnt even say Donegal strange being from Ireland.

Fucking love The Loudan wish there where more bars like that in Glasgow.

We already worked out this bergy fellow is a fraud, he couldn't name one town or village in donegal, and as for the majority i think your wrong you need to live near the cunts to see that most are republican sympifiers, you couldn't even walk though Dublin with Linfield top on never mind a Rangers top so whats that tell you.?

I was there a few days before the big apprentice boys parade, and they were preparing the big bonfire. I popped in to the apprentice boys hall as well, and say the big effigy of Lundy they were going to burn. It was an interesting day, but I've not been back to Londonderry yet, that was 4 years ago now. Was Lundy made and all in august they must have been on the ball that year , did yous not stay for the bonfire or parade when yous where here.? I was in Londonderry about 3 and a half years ago- very ominous walking around seeing "Brits Out" graffiti all over the place- especially in the Bogside. The Walls are really something else though Yeah it struck me as well. The hatred in the place, you can sense it in the air when you walk around. The sight of the fountain - just this one street basically - behind the concrete walls and barbed wire was something to behold, even for me from Belfast! They really are literally under siege! Exactly unreal this day and age to be living like what they do. Yet still they refuse to surrender! Yep We fight for No Surrender, funny thing is us from the Waterside can't even wear our Rangers tops over to the cityside of the foyle as must the time we get battered at times nearly to death, only time we wear them over is on the 12th of august and 12th july.

I was there a few days before the big apprentice boys parade, and they were preparing the big bonfire. I popped in to the apprentice boys hall as well, and say the big effigy of Lundy they were going to burn. It was an interesting day, but I've not been back to Londonderry yet, that was 4 years ago now. Was Lundy made and all in august they must have been on the ball that year , did yous not stay for the bonfire or parade when yous where here.? I was in Londonderry about 3 and a half years ago- very ominous walking around seeing "Brits Out" graffiti all over the place- especially in the Bogside. The Walls are really something else though Aye the Bog is the biggest hole on earth. There's also a a part of Falkirk called The Bog which is also a hole have ever seen the bog but.?

I was there a few days before the big apprentice boys parade, and they were preparing the big bonfire. I popped in to the apprentice boys hall as well, and say the big effigy of Lundy they were going to burn. It was an interesting day, but I've not been back to Londonderry yet, that was 4 years ago now. Was Lundy made and all in august they must have been on the ball that year , did yous not stay for the bonfire or parade when yous where here.? I was in Londonderry about 3 and a half years ago- very ominous walking around seeing "Brits Out" graffiti all over the place- especially in the Bogside. The Walls are really something else though Yeah it struck me as well. The hatred in the place, you can sense it in the air when you walk around. The sight of the fountain - just this one street basically - behind the concrete walls and barbed wire was something to behold, even for me from Belfast! They really are literally under siege! Exactly unreal this day and age to be living like what they do.

I was there a few days before the big apprentice boys parade, and they were preparing the big bonfire. I popped in to the apprentice boys hall as well, and say the big effigy of Lundy they were going to burn. It was an interesting day, but I've not been back to Londonderry yet, that was 4 years ago now. Was Lundy made and all in august they must have been on the ball that year , did yous not stay for the bonfire or parade when yous where here.? I was in Londonderry about 3 and a half years ago- very ominous walking around seeing "Brits Out" graffiti all over the place- especially in the Bogside. The Walls are really something else though Aye the Bog is the biggest hole on earth.