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Thanks IB maybe i should have a oui word in PLGs shell like ear. We do not want to lose our dignity because at the moment its all we have, let the other half of Glasgow carry on undignified they have done it for over a century and its there banner not ours.

You have no idea how accurate you are with the original post. Having been in meetings with my previous French employers it is amazing to watch the french sit for hours and listen to the man in charge without uttering a word. They really frown on someone not paying respect to the senior man in the room.

IB, for the good of Rangers all washing of dirty linen should stay behind closed doors and be dealt with the correct way. I want BF back playing for Rangers but more than anything i want our great club to act in a DIGNIFIED manner that will only happen when Sir David sorts this mess out.

Woke up again in OZ to more crap and even less answers than yesterday about the whole affair. Thought i would play devils advocate and look at it from some different angles. Having managed a couple of high turnover businesses in the UK and taken over from previous managers my experience is both good and bad with existing staff and the way the business was run. Firstly you look at the turnover/results you find out whats required to better the results and try small changes at first if this doesnt help then try making more radical changes again if this fails look at who you have and are they delivering for you if so keep them if not bin them. Short but sweet and in a nutshell this is what the manager has to do. I also have experience working for the French and have an insight into there management style and there arrogance if it can be called that. PLG, i am a hopeful fan where he is concerned. I thought that this was a great move by Murray in getting one of the most lauded young managers in europe to take over from Mcleish. However he has taken a bad team made some changes and actually went back the way, now if DM had employed him in his core business at MIM this guy would be in serious trouble. He would be having a nice sit down and be asked to explain why he hasnt delivered the goods, he can blame the players ala Ferguson, Boyd etc and ask to get rid of them or he can ask for more time and help to manage the situation in a better way. His key task is to make the business an ongoing success not a quick turnover and shut the door business. He has to look at his key performers and work out the best way to get them to fall into his line of thought or adjust his own thinking and attitude to play the game with them and still get his own way. What is called playing the game and letting them get his way not theres. Absolute failure on most counts i would say, and on this a man near the door in any other business. However not knowing whats going on and giving him the respect he deserves he has the right to manage a difficuilt situation as he sees fit and for the best of the business not himself. I would imagine he has taken advice about this move but dont be surprised if the advice has come from France and not Murray the French always turn to there own when they need help. Sir David, again a fan of the man. Made a great move in getting BF back to Rangers, also made a great move in getting PLG to Ibrox. He must have thought that at last he has something to work with that given time and good management would reap some long term rewards. He now has to back one horse or work wonders and get them working together which knowing the French psyche i doubt will happen. So where does he go, following rules of protocol he must back his manager if he has acted in the correct manner and for the good of the business. If he hasnt and has misled anyone in the company or abused his position he may well have the right to get rid. Again the same goes for Ferguson, if he has abused his position as Captain, an honour in itself being captain of the greatest sporting club in the world, then he must be made accountable for his action again something for Sir David to address. Fergie, love the guy as a player but dont think he has had a good tenure as Captain maybe he has had a poor playing squad to captain maybe hes not the man for the job. Why the distrust and fall out with PLG, does he not rate him as a manager is he unable to work with him and his French ways i know it can be hard i worked for the French. Or is the lack of respect which PLG shows to anyone who crosses him to much for BF. For his part he was Captain of my club and should have acted in a mature and more managed way, followed protocol and spoke to DM or has he with no joy. We dont want to lose him in any capacity but he needs to grow up and realise that there is more than one way to skin a cat. THE FANS, we have for years put our money in and trusted that Sir David would deliver us from evil. At the moment we are in a dark place that gives us no confidence of a bright future and leaves us embarassed and ridiculed by others. We do not deserve this and if the club want our undying loyalty to continue they must get something sorted out fast, get rid of the manager or the player and lets move on. Show the people, because we are the people, that we are being led by a strong leader who will take action irrespective of the fiscal cost for the better of our great institution. My opinion, PLG wants out and doesnt have the stomach to leave a failure. If he is fired he can hold his head up and say that the ignorant scots dont know anything about the great game. Fergie should sit tight and return as the Captain and Murray should appoint a Rangers man at the helm, Davies and Durrant. Anyway its supposed to hit the 40s here today so i will pop a crownie sit by the pool in the back garden and hope for the best. Have a nice new year one and all.

Ricardo, i think thats 100% correct i think given time PLG will do well. However its not Murrays place to talk for PLG when the football side slips up, i have always believed that given time we are in good hands but PLG has to rid the ship of the rotten rats.

I would agree that Murray or Bain should have the metal to come out and tell it as it is but thats the managers job, he is in charge of football at Rangers not Murray. As i said earlier i dont get to see many games being in OZ but can someone tell me who sits in the dugout with the Frenchies, is there a scotsman. What is Durrant doing now, is he still doing the reserves and are they doing well, should he sit in the dugout and help PLG in moments of strife.

Guys i sat here for an hour this morning, i am in Australia, and i am shell shocked at the way Rangers are playing at the moment. However some of the comments made on here defy belief, we are a bad team and the manager has to take the blame for this not Murray. We have lost to teams in this league who have spent less than Rangers this season, PLG must take the blame for this. Murray has not got to where he is in life by ignoring problems and letting them fester that is just bad business practise. He is paying PLG and his back room team very handsomely for there services, and probably expected better as we do. In paying them this money i believe he was investing in a Ajax type program where we would bring on young players and sell them on for profit. However it took Ajax and the likes of PSV years to get to this point, time that is not allowed at Rangers. This is where Murrays plan is flawed if this is indeed his plan then he should have had a slush fund in place to bale out the manager should it all turn to ,,,,. Celtic are by no means the football side they claim to be and Rangers would be sitting top had some of the players pulled there finger out instead of thinking it will be easy all we need to do is turn up.

Dont post that often as i dont get to see many games being in Australia, but from what i saw of the big man against Aberdeen he may be the work horse to play beside Boyd. He will need more time and games, i dont beleive he can be that bad as we had to fight to sign him. I know we are not getting the results at the moment but realistically the league was gone months ago and we should target 2nd place and get the team in place for next year. I still think that PLG will do the job for us and will sign better suited type players for the scottish game now he knows the level.