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What part of it is not just like that? No proof, no convictions, but something definitely happened. Maybe you can actually offer a different take on it instead of pointless quips?

Let's use the McCann's as an example. The daughter went missing. That is a fact. Nobody knows what went on, but the parents were, at the very least, neglectful. Nobody can come out and publicly accuse them of having murdered Maddie, but something went on and something stinks with it. No proof, no convictions.

If it wasn't his mate Green, it would have been another one of his mates.

It means that scams go on all the time without being found out. Don't you think it incredible that Rangers were put into administration? They were trading perfectly well until CW withheld the tax & NI. It's not like the club couldn't trade like Hearts. People seem to be forgetting this with all that is going on just now.

Look at their backgrounds and those are all the facts you need.

Noone involved with the requistioners (as far as I'm aware) have a track record of screwing companies like some of the incumbent board members have. They were all put in place by CG who was put in place by CW.

By the very nature of your phrase "another Libor scandal", you admit that it has happened before.

It's not a fucking conspiracy theory. There was no need for the club to go into admin. CW engineered the situation. Where did all the money go that was due to be paid to the taxman? Has that been found yet?

Take a look at the background of all that were involved in the process and tell me what proof you will find. Does it mean that they didn't do what they did because there is no proof of wrongdoing? Do you think they make a living out of screwing and flipping companies and then go all above board once they buy Rangers?

Have you never heard of companies working together to suit their own ends? Like banks working together to fix lending rates, or other companies who are market rivals fixing the prices of their commodities?

Just like money can be syphoned without being illegal, situations can also be manipulated without being illegal. Come on to fuck, do some people really think that everything is above board? These people are well versed in this sort of thing.

And who put that club on it's arse in the first place? That's right, his mate Craig. And do you remember why it was put on it's arse? To suit CW's own ends. What could those ends possibly be that he would withhold paying what was due to intentionally trigger administration?

Do you really believe that CW fought to get his own administrators in place for no reason? Administrators that he had plenty of previous dealings with? And you must be aware of CW's MO in dealing with his previous companies?

It's Glasgow Rangers. The club sells itself. What outstanding pieces of business did CG pull off in the interests of the club rather than himself?

Or guys that know their way around a box of Swan Vestas.

That's where it doesn't add up. Wasn't it the case that he only put in about £25k but walked away with over a million or so? That million or so was fans' and investors' money. He cashed in shares that he got for fuck all, he never bought them and saw the value of them rise through normal market conditions.

Money can be syphoned off to companies without being illegal. But just because it it not illegal doesn't mean that it has been paid out for services rendered at market prices. This is how these people make their money and screw companies for all they can. A lot of people seem naive to this kind of practise. Money is syphoned through layers of companies until it gets to where it is intended to be, but is almost untraceable. While they can say that the IPO cost 25% as opposed to the normal 5% or so, a detailed break down would be required into what the inflated costs were for and where it went.

Oh, the ironing.

Does anyone know when the TUPE period expired for staff who transferred over?

Saved the club? They fucking Wonga-d the club with their fantastic interest rates for loans. I was behind CG initially and his bluster was refreshing, but as time has gone on and information has come out, it appears that something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

Have they detailed what the 25% IPO costs were? Or do I have to pay Bill a $ and sing hallelujah?

Bill McMental. He has the visa receipt to prove it.

What was the debt at when the club was sold?

Wasn't the debt only about 18 million when the club was sold? And the club was only sold due to pressure on SDM from his other business interests? Hardly "run into the ground" when things were heading in the right direction.