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John Fleck will be the best midfielder in the Championship season...as he was in Div 1 last season.He will own the troughsnorters midfield this season.Thanks for the upcoming 6 points, heeeere piggy,piggy,piggy...?

Nigel Spackman,Stuart McCall,Andy Goram,Davie Weir, Ugo Ehoiogu,John Fleck,Tom Cowan,to name but a few.more links between Blades and Rangers than troughsnorters and Rangers.?

Never worn green and white hoops though...unlike the troughsnorters at Swillsborough.

Ditto.

Ditto.

Flight from Birmingham tomorrow afternoon....one night in Arlon Belgium with a group of fellow bears from tthe Midlands travelling by Eurostar.Then I get to Luxembourg on Tuesday morning, staying until Saturday morning.The weather forecast is Hot and sunny...around 80 degrees on matchday.Bring the factor 30 lads.see youthere.NORTH DERBYSHIRE LOYAL.

Flying out on Monday from Birmingham with flybe gotflight for £67.99 return.1 night in Arlon,Belgium with other bears (25 mins by train from Lux) then 4 nights back in Luxembourg.comingback sat morning.Nice wee holiday to see the place.?

Look at the website progresrangers.com there are details there of four outlets selling tickets in Luxembourg city .

Why Barcelona crest on the e.mail though....amateurish.

Max points and got mine. Expected.

After match party arranged at LES RIVES DE CLAUSEN NIGHTLIFE VILLAGE Street full of pubs,bars,restaurants even a brewery Details can be found on progresrangers.com

The newspaper did not take into account the possible regionalisation of the draw ...that is why I did it, to take out loads of possible opponents....regional groups may not yet happen but it seems to be the way it has gone in recent years to cut costs for very small teams....Bala Town of Wales trsvelling to the far side of Kazahkstan would probably break them. ALSO I LIVE IN ENGLAND SO DO NOT GET THE SCOTTISH SUN OR DAILY RHEBEL.!!!?

Co efficient points at the moment St Johnstone have 6.535 Rangers 3.785. So if we played Shamrock Rovers and beat them we would gain their points (3.065) we would then have 6.850. If St Johnstone played and beat Bala Town of Wales (1.525) they would move to 8.060. Still ahead of us at that point.... BUT....in the 2nd qualifying round...we would be drawn against a seeded team with higher points they would draw an unseeded team with lower points...... For example we draw and beat Maccabi Tel aviv (23.375) and St.J. draw and beat Lyngby of Denmark (4.800) we then move above them for the next round as we would have 30.225 and they would have12.860. There are so many permutations when 100 teams are in that initial draw on June 19th. Progressing is the key to build your co efficient and obviously the better the opponents you beat the more points you accumulate and hence move up the list to become a seeded team. All very complicated but that gives you the rough idea of how it works.

At the moment they have a higher coefficent points tally. If and when we (and them) progress you have the team you beat coefficient points added to yours.So the better the opposition you beat gains more points to your total .

Yes.But we cannot play then,same association rule applies.

I am just a mile down the road from Tupton,althoufh I was born in Drumchapel,Glasgow.

Spent the day looking at our possible oponents in the draw on 19th June. In recent years UEFA have had a rough regionalisation for the draw split into three regions North,Central and South. There are 50 seeded teams and 50 unseeded at this 1st round stage (We are in the seeded teams at this stage). I found there is a close split for the regions with a few that could be in North or Central, and a few in Central/ south, so nothing is really set in stone. In my estimation there are approx .... Seeded....................50........18 north,16 Central and 16 south. Unseeded...............50.........20 North,19 central,11 South. So in theory a few teams that can be classed in either/or regions it can be grouped reasonably well. So my thoughts on our possible UNSEEDED opponents will come from the following 10 countries... 1,ICELAND, VALUR REYKJAVIK. 1,ESTONIA, FLORA TALLINN. 2,LATVIA , FK JELGAVA,FK LEIPAJA 3,FAROE ISLAANDS ,B36 TORSHAVN, KI KLAKSVIK, NSI RUNAVIK. 3,ULSTER? COLERAINE, DERRY CITY,BALLYMENA UNITED 2,IRELAND , SHAMROCK ROVERS,CORK CITY, 1,FINLAND, SJK SEINAJOKI 3,WALES, CONNAHS QUAY, BALA TOWN, BANGOR CITY. 3,LITHUANIA ,ATLANTAS KLAIPEDA, SUDUVA MARIJAMPOLE, FK TRAKAI 1,FINLAND , VPS VAASA THAT IS ONE FROM 20. TWO OTHER POSSIBILITIES COULD BE FROM SAN MARINO IF THEY ARE PUT IN THE NORTHERN REGION... 2,FOLGORA FC AND TRE PENNE. OTHER BORDERLINE POSSIBILITIES ARE FROM ANDORRA 2,SANTA JULIA AND UE SANTA COLOMA. A POSSIBLE CURVE BALL COULD BE TEAMS FROM: 3 in LUXEMBOURG,2 in MALTA,2 in GIBRALTAR. So there we have it ,No obviously nightmareish trips really as long as I have presumed rightly and the draw is regionalised. Much better prospects than trips to Albania,Armenia,Georgia,Moldova,Bulgaria or any of the slavic region countries (Serbia,Montenegro,Kosovo,Bosnia,Macedonia,Slovakia Whittles it down a little for your travel research,hope it helps. Me ? I will follow follow wherever we may go,see you in Europe...its good to be back. Jim ,Chesterfield. Look out for my flag on your travels,see you there, NORTH DERBYSHIRE LOYAL RSC ON TOUR.

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weather update....no snow in Leipzig this morning just cold damp and dreich.....just like a normal saturday morning in Scotland. seen quite a few bears milling around....and heard even more somewhere in the distance...we are and always will be THE FICKING PEOPLE. WORDS GREATEST SUPPORT.

if you are landing at schonefeld just follow s bahn and u bahn signs from the airport exit its about a 200 yard walk under a covered walkway(you cant miss it) at the end of the walkway go down the stairs or ramp to the tunnel under the platforms the ticket machines are down there.press the union flag and it gides you through it in English.staff are always on hand to help and speak English.the queues can get long but dont think fuck it... ase those plain clothed inspectors are watching you.you cannot buy them on the train...AND THEY WILL HUCKLE YOU OFF.... TRAINS RUN ABOUT EVERY TEN MINS TO BERLIN HAUPTBANHOF.there are loads of bars and places to eat there maccy d kfc b.king etc plus a cracking fish and chip shop.all these food outlets sell booze.have a great time lads.be sensible and the German police will welcome you with open arms...but are bastards if you step out of line...and they will release big fuck off alsatians and rottweilers if they have to.!!

yes wednesday loyal been to loads of footie in Germany and localtravel is always free on the day of the match on trams and buses.just show match ticket if asked.I was in Berlin a few years ago and bought a ticket for a friendly between Germany and Argentina from a tourst office for 12 euros and it included free travel to the match which was a four hour train ride away! (keep your eye out for my new flag...North Derbyshire loyal ... which has a Rangers crest and SHEFFIELD UNITED!!! HA HA. that Berliner is good stuff and unlike here you can openly drink on the trains.. all the Germans do it!

the eu trainline is a booking agent that put prices up as they get hits on the site.go to www.bahn.de and click on the english version to search for trains....the good thing in germany is they use a 7 day timetable none of this sat and sunday shit.AND REMEMBER IF YOU HOLD A MATCH TICKET TRAVEL WILL BE FREE ON LOCAL TRANSPORT IN LEIPZIG ON THE DAY OF THE MATCH.....oh and a word of warning make sure you buy a ticket for the s bahn and u.bahn trains from your airport in to centre of Berlin.only 3.60 euros. as they have plain clothes ticket checkers that get on at the airport.they will not accept any excuses for not having a ticket.they ring ahead to the police and huckle you off at the next available stop and fine you 50 euros!! not worth the risk for the sake of 3 quid.

anyone in the midlands still mulling over a trip to leipzig...east mids fri morning to Berlin return on monday afternoon is back on sale for £12.99 out £36.79 back.so thats under £50 for a ret flight. several fellow bears on those flights.get in if your interested. WATP.... RYANAIR LOYAL.!!!!!

14.37 friday afternoon...3 nights in the ibis city...11.37 back to Berlin monday....look out for the North Derbyshire Loyal flag....hopefully hanging from a balcony at the Ibis to welcome you all off the various trains!! WATP.