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    Concerned bear

    in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom

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    Using private taped conversations in court is a very big grey area and has the potential to cause the person doing the recording some serious problems.

    CW could leave himself open to be countersued for damages and be breaking the data protection act, a judge might not even accept it as evidence.

    If such tape even exists.

    How much money was actually involved

    in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom

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    Just as well Celtic players and staff were not avoiding tax by investing in dodgy film companies which many of them including one a Mr Yellow Teeth invested in were ruled illegal.

    No high horse statements about them of course because celtic players and staff and the chairman of a shit wee club who like sheep just like investing in films.

    Ibrox Disaster Applause at Anfield

    in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom

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    Liverpool FC president, John Houlding, had put his faith in Ulsterman John McKenna to assemble a good enough team for Liverpool for the club's debut season. Houlding got to know McKenna through the Orange Order and they had struck a firm friendship. McKenna had been known for helping Liverpool's poor people and took a great interest in player's welfare reflected in him becoming the Football League chairman in 1910, staying in the post for no less than 26 years. "Honest John" was also a hard-nosed businessman, who didn't suffer fools lightly and his 'military bearing and staccato voice' got him far as the Liverpool Echo reported when he clashed with a Manchester City director: "When the director entered the Liverpool boardroom vehemently declaring that City had been robbed of the game, McKenna immediately called for quiet using his well-known phrase 'A moment, please, a moment'. He then proceeded to ask the director if he knew what the word "robbed" meant. Did he believe the referee was a thief? He promptly proceeded to insist on the director making an apology in the presence of everyone in the room."

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    William E. Barclay who was Houlding's vice-president at Everton, stuck by his boss and worked beside McKenna, taking care of administrative affairs and training. McKenna searched mainly in Scotland for cheap talent and signed several quality players. Two Scotsmen, Duncan McLean and Tom Wyllie, decided to follow in the footsteps of the club's former president, John Houlding, and leave Everton. Andrew Hannah, who joined from Renton, had previously featured in Everton's 1891 championship team and was quite a catch for the Anfielders: "Hannah will act as captain and his power of developing players is so well known that the Liverpool club are fortunate in having secured the man who did so much towards improving the all-round play of the Everton team." (Birmingham Daily Post on 6th of June 1892.)

    Houlding's new club was progressing well evident in Liverpool Mercury on 29th of August 1892: "Liverpool have not been idle, and in their endeavours to get together a team that will sustain the tradition of the Anfield-road enclosure, have enjoyed much success. The main object of Liverpool will be to come out prominently in the English cup competition for which they have entered, and in the Lancashire Cup contest, in connection with which they have been drawn with Southport Central, the tie to be played off at Anfield on September 17. They are in the Lancashire League, and will meet several league teams, including Blackburn Rovers, Burnley, Notts County, Stoke and Darwen: and an interesting event of the season will be the visit of Corinthians on April 3. If Liverpool come out of these principal matches with credits they will of course stand a good chance of securing a place in the league next year – this will be their incentive.

    The team is undoubtedly a strong one, and will include Ross (Cambuslang) and McOwen (Blackburn Rovers), goal; A. Hannah and McLean (Everton and Renton), with another man expected, backs; J. Kelso (Renton), McQue (Campsie, and who has won a Stirlingshire cup), and McBride (Renton, and who played for Scottish League versus English league at Bolton last season), half backs; Wylie (Everton), Smith (Sunderland and Kilmarnock), right wing; Miller (Dumbarton), centre; and Kelvin (Kilmarnock) and McVean (3rd Lanark), left wing; with Cameron (Aston Villa and Renton), reserve. Liverpool inaugurate their career by playing Rotherham Town (Midland League Champions), at Anfield on Thursday."

    It is no wonder that the team originally known as "The Anfielders" became to be known as "Team of the Macs", due to the number of Scottish players.

    Another clown has a go

    in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom

    Posted

    Here is more of his shite, who is this idiot.

    Sportsdirect are our reatil partner someone should give him his P45 for xmas

    by Tony Yorke

    19th December 2012 1:18pm

    Exclusive

    Rangers, the fallen giants of Scottish football, have suffered a stock market snub after its eagerly awaited flotation raised less cash than it was anticipating.

    Gers, who are currently top of the Scottish Third Division after being demoted from the SPL in the summer, raised just £22.2 million when its shares were listed on the Alternative Investment Market – more than 10% below what the club had hoped to bank.

    SportsDirect News has learned the club was hoping to net at least £24.5 million from investors, as the new club sets about the task of rising from the lowest tier of Scottish professional football.

    The shortfall will be a blow to supporters and the club’s directors alike, as Gers have promised to cap players salaries to just a third of the club’s overall turnover.

    In its Offer Document to shareholders, the club also pledged to put in place strict spending controls, in line with Uefa’s Financial Fair Play Rules, which may prevent manager Ally McCoist from buying big name players. Redevelopment plans for the Ibrox Stadium could also be delayed or scrapped.

    “The Board is committed to living within its means and ensuring expenditure is controlled as a proportion of turnover,” Rangers told the London Stock Exchange. “As such, the Directors intend to control expenditure to the extent required and postpone further development plans in the event that any requirement for additional funding is identified.”

    Another clown has a go

    in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom

    Posted

    by Tony Yorke

    20th December 2012 10:16am

    I have a lot of admiration for what Charles Green and his consortium of investors have achieved at Rangers in a very short space of time.

    The Glasgow giants have seen their off-the-field fortunes turned around in dramatic fashion as Green, and his good, old-fashioned business principles, have helped restore some much-needed credibility and stability to the Ibrox outfit.

    It was, therefore, something of a surprise to learn that Green has promised manager, Ally McCoist, a transfer kitty of up to £30 million in the months ahead, after the club floated on the London Stock Exchange.

    Let’s not beat about the bush here: this flotation will be a disappointment to Green and Rangers. It was, in effect, a snub from the City.

    The net proceeds from yesterday’s flotation were just £22.2 million – some £2.3 million short of what Green and the club’s investment advisers had valued Rangers shares at.

    By any standards, that’s a big shortfall – particularly as Green has publicly pledged to keep the finances of Rangers permanently in the black, not the red.

    To have lost out on £2.3m – more than 10% of what he had hoped to receive – must mean there will be cutback in the scale of the vision that is outlined in the club’s Offer Document that every investor received prior to parting with their cash.

    So to start talking about splashing out £30m is either a foolhardy statement, made at an unguarded moment, or something bordering on the crass.

    My real hope is this is just a PR stunt designed to gloss over the fact the flotation didn’t go as well as the club envisaged. After all, Green has made a lot of noise in recent weeks about what Rangers will be doing when they get this much-needed cash injection.

    And let’s face it, Green’s reputation is on the line.

    But should he break his promise to the City and the club’s fans, by pushing player spending beyond 33% of the club’s turnover, then he’ll join a long list of businessmen who have promised to do so much, yet delivered no change to the status quo at all.

    I don’t think Green is another also-ran whose desperate to be "Mr Popular".

    Let’s hope I’m right, as the last thing this club needs is a return to the old, reckless ways of the Murray and White eras.

    http://www.sportsdirectnews.com/tony-yorke/10561-tis-the-season-for-rangers-folly.php#.UNL0rqxn7fk

    Maybe his boss should set him straight :cgreen:

    WARNING - Unless you want a criminal record, THINK before you POST

    in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom

    Posted

    Was reading throught the draft guidelines.

    Threats with the Intent of Stirring up Religious Hatred

    The offence is committed if a person communicates material, including displaying any written material, which is threatening, and it is intended thereby to stir up religious hatred. The material communicated must be threatening, and intended to stir up religious hatred; recklessness is not enough.

    Freedom of Expression

    The offence is not intended to infringe, prohibit or restrict legitimate freedom of expression nor freedom to practice and promote a religion. Such freedoms allow for satirical comment, criticism and expressions of antipathy, dislike, ridicule, insult or abuse of particular religions or the beliefs or practices of its adherents or any other belief system or practices of its adherents. While these freedoms are not absolute, this offence will only interfere with them where a threat is made.

    The offence WILL NOT

    Prevent peaceful religious preaching

    Restrict legitimate freedom of speech including the right to criticise or comment on religion or non-religious beliefs, even in harsh or derogatory terms

    Criminalise jokes and satire about religion or non- religious beliefs

    Criminalise depictions of threats in art, literature, the theatre, film, video games, or similar cultural or dramatic contexts,

    Criminalise threats made in jest that no reasonable person would find alarming.

    Both of these offences can be committed outside Scotland and will apply to anything done by a person who is a British national or who is habitually resident in Scotland

    http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/S4_JusticeCommittee/Draft_Lord_Advocate_guidelines.pdf

    Message of Support

    in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom

    Posted

    good statement and RIP

    but

    damage was done by a few on here on the other thread Devlin springs too mind.

    Scousers down here clocked the thread.

    some of the stuff was terrible on that thread can't believe any bear would write it, if anyone said that to me about Ibrox i would smash their face in.

    Bears down south

    in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom

    Posted

    I've not read this other thread and was only interested in how Rangers fans get on down here when talking football with locals. There is no agenda with me

    It wasn't aimed at you.

    as for the sash bash aye had a few over the years at the Derry club and Beaky.

    Must be few dusty photos somewhere with the law taking photos of everyone outside.

    Bears down south

    in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom

    Posted

    I have lived in England for a while now (Southport)and have worked all over England

    I would say your casual sky watching fan couldn't care less.

    but the English guys in my local who actually go to the games mostly Liverpool, Everton and Man U fans do know what is going on and think it's disgusting.

    In fact the majority hate the tims even the Man U ones it's a myth spread by the Tims that all teams in England are their friends.

    sick of reading shite on forums by fellow Bears who's whole experience of England is a weekend in Blackpool.

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