Elwood

Wow, a real live internet hard man getting rattled because you made a mistake. I don't care about the nature of religion. Anyway, if you're quite finished maybe we can get this back on topic. You see thats my problem - you see I know of Manti - and Manti knows of me - we go to the places real bears frequent...speak and express their feelings and thoughts. The opinions you have expressed never seem to surface. Can you tell me why that is ? Pathetic. You sound like a wee boy trying to impress what you think of as the 'real Rangers fans' with your sycophantic reply to the 'feck off' thread and now your latest post. Real bears in your world are all Protestants I suppose? Perhaps you should take yourself out of your closed little world and realise there are plenty Rangers supporters who are not card carrying protestants. I respected you had different views and opinions throughout this thread but do not respect your inference that people are less of a Rangers fan because they are not clones of you and your mates. This is the end of my involvement in your thread.

Wow, a real live internet hard man getting rattled because you made a mistake. I don't care about the nature of religion. Anyway, if you're quite finished maybe we can get this back on topic. Rattled? You obviously rate yourself highly. You could not be more wrong. And I won't be 'rattled' by your suggestion that I made some sort of mistake either. At least you concede that you don't understand the point. Frankly I wonder why you bother attempting to contribute to such a debate when you are so out of your depth. At least I would womder if I didn't see it so regularly. Anyway enjoy, I'm told it is bliss. Stop digging mate, you'll only look more ridiculous. By taking the effort to bold and italic letters in 'feck off' it shows you're rattled. You misunderstood my post you quoted, no big deal, move on. Your point was pointless since it was based on you completely misunderstanding my post.

Its not polite...its not pc...but by goodness it summons everything I want to say ! You started off well with decent debate but in reality that's what you want to say to people who disagree with you or are you just tubing up the forum main men?

Wow, a real live internet hard man getting rattled because you made a mistake. I don't care about the nature of religion. Anyway, if you're quite finished maybe we can get this back on topic.

Epic! Agree with the others Naismith's control and finish were quality. Good to see us getting the injured back too.

And I don't care what the believers of a beardy man in the clouds says. I have my own outlook on life and it's not dependent on an old book. What a dumb post. What the 'beardy man in the clouds' might say is neither here nor there, religion is a political, cultural and social phenomenon as well as 'spiritual'. Anyway great post D'Art and hello from Nuremburg. As always, there is none so blind as he who will not see.... Re read it. What I said, cheekily, is I don't care what people who believe in god, says. Not what god says. With respect I suggest you should re-read mine. Although to make it clearer the 'none so blind' comment was not particularly directed at you. What the 'beardy man in the clouds' might say is neither here nor there That clearly shows you thought I meant what god says instead of what his followers say.

Well thats where we do disagree. One thing we have to do on here as a site is agree on the influence of the press...and there appears to be differing views. Those who dismiss anti-Rangers articles fail to address one fact - the power of the media. If they are such a non entity why do politicians and celebrities seek to charm them and keep them onside. ? I would respectfully suggest its because they have the power to influence. The second most untrustworthy profession behind politicians. Don't over estimate their power.

Yeah it's worth it but if you ask me if our youth coaching is up to scratch then I'd have to say no.

And I don't care what the believers of a beardy man in the clouds says. I have my own outlook on life and it's not dependent on an old book. What a dumb post. What the 'beardy man in the clouds' might say is neither here nor there, religion is a political, cultural and social phenomenon as well as 'spiritual'. Anyway great post D'Art and hello from Nuremburg. As always, there is none so blind as he who will not see.... Re read it. What I said, cheekily, is I don't care what people who believe in god, says. Not what god says. Her target in the main were a readership who were unaware or uneducated as to the truth. I doubt very much the majority saw her as an anti- Ragers bigot. and you know this, how?

Well we did - but the rest is history as they say. Well I have a number of thoughts on this. The PCC is only a regulatory/advisory body. In other words.... a toothless tiger. If Rangers had taken legal action it would have been interesting to see how those accusations could have been substantiated in a court of law. Tell me how are we fighting the untruths ? In fact why do we continue to fight them ? Should they not be elimanted at source ? Spiers continues to enjoy press box privillieges at Ibrox. is that really fighting untruth with truth ? Seems there is scope for taking it further.. Accuracy i) The Press must take care not to publish inaccurate, misleading or distorted information, including pictures. ii) A significant inaccuracy, misleading statement or distortion once recognised must be corrected, promptly and with due prominence, and - where appropriate - an apology published. iii) The Press, whilst free to be partisan, must distinguish clearly between comment, conjecture and fact. iv) A publication must report fairly and accurately the outcome of an action for defamation to which it has been a party, unless an agreed settlement states otherwise, or an agreed statement is published. Spiers would love to be barred from Ibrox, a martyr in his own corduroys. To be fair a month or two back I posted a couple of his articles (on another site) that really had a go at celtc and it surprised everyone that read it as most feel he's purely anti Rangers. I think he's just a sycophant who lets it cloud his judgement and colour his work. Repeatedly pointing this out (a lie repeated often enough becomes a fact!) would hit him harder than just calling him a tosser. Clearly he's been stung with criticisms of bias and it's these attacks (with good reason) on his credibility that will hurt him far more than any ban from Ibrox. No offence Elwood....and without speaking for others Bears on this site....but I would imagine that no matter what Spiers said...he will never EVER be forgiven. I never asked for him to be forgiven and don't expect him to be either. Personally I really don't care what some nerdoid journalist has to say but the things that will hurt him most isn't being banned from Ibrox (in my opinion), it's attacks on his professional and personal integrity and his credibility.

We have had numerous catholic players...a catholic captain....a catholic manager. 1 Tell me what is the influence which causes catholics from supporting us ? 2 1. Yes we have. 2 The influence is the one inferred by dummiesoot that this bad publicity of Rangers and it's fans being bigots and sectarian will affect future fan numbers. How would it affect protestants from following the club? Clearly the only people this would affect is catholics as it's alleged in the press it's them who are the target of abuse. I believe in this day and age where the influence of the church is greatly diminished that the 'Catholic' supporter is not an issue but what would be best termed a 'floating supporter' why be bothered with the hassle of being branded a bigot when you could support another team not branded by the press as sectarian. Like I said, I think most people either follow the club their dad does or are taken in by Man U! Most people have a favourite club while still in primary school and at that age all this baggage isn't really an issue to them. They wont understand it. We are chosen, and the rest are just glory hunters. I was a glory hunter choosing us during celtcs 9IAR? On yerself Minsty. Naivety is bliss !! Why is that naive? What team does your dad follow? My sons brother is 10, he's no idea about the basis of the celtc Rangers antagonism. Don't delude yourself into thinking the whole country is Glasgow and consumed about these issues.

Well we did - but the rest is history as they say. Well I have a number of thoughts on this. The PCC is only a regulatory/advisory body. In other words.... a toothless tiger. If Rangers had taken legal action it would have been interesting to see how those accusations could have been substantiated in a court of law. Tell me how are we fighting the untruths ? In fact why do we continue to fight them ? Should they not be elimanted at source ? Spiers continues to enjoy press box privillieges at Ibrox. is that really fighting untruth with truth ? Seems there is scope for taking it further.. Accuracy i) The Press must take care not to publish inaccurate, misleading or distorted information, including pictures. ii) A significant inaccuracy, misleading statement or distortion once recognised must be corrected, promptly and with due prominence, and - where appropriate - an apology published. iii) The Press, whilst free to be partisan, must distinguish clearly between comment, conjecture and fact. iv) A publication must report fairly and accurately the outcome of an action for defamation to which it has been a party, unless an agreed settlement states otherwise, or an agreed statement is published. Spiers would love to be barred from Ibrox, a martyr in his own corduroys. To be fair a month or two back I posted a couple of his articles (on another site) that really had a go at celtc and it surprised everyone that read it as most feel he's purely anti Rangers. I think he's just a sycophant who lets it cloud his judgement and colour his work. Repeatedly pointing this out (a lie repeated often enough becomes a fact!) would hit him harder than just calling him a tosser. Clearly he's been stung with criticisms of bias and it's these attacks (with good reason) on his credibility that will hurt him far more than any ban from Ibrox.

We have had numerous catholic players...a catholic captain....a catholic manager. 1 Tell me what is the influence which causes catholics from supporting us ? 2 1. Yes we have. 2 The influence is the one inferred by dummiesoot that this bad publicity of Rangers and it's fans being bigots and sectarian will affect future fan numbers. How would it affect protestants from following the club? Clearly the only people this would affect is catholics as it's alleged in the press it's them who are the target of abuse. I believe in this day and age where the influence of the church is greatly diminished that the 'Catholic' supporter is not an issue but what would be best termed a 'floating supporter' why be bothered with the hassle of being branded a bigot when you could support another team not branded by the press as sectarian. Like I said, I think most people either follow the club their dad does or are taken in by Man U! Most people have a favourite club while still in primary school and at that age all this baggage isn't really an issue to them. They wont understand it.

And I don't care what the believers of a beardy man in the clouds says. I have my own outlook on life and it's not dependent on an old book.

What should I get on my top thread? What's a top thread or is there a comma missing from your title?