Nah mate, it was tops. I didn't mean to come down so hard. Briefs are what they are, I know that. I used to be in-house for a print company, most of the briefs consisted of, "They want something that POPS." I've seen some pretty complex embroidery stuffs, done some myself, but as a matter of cost... eek. Helluva spot for a facebook page and the like, though. Cheers, mate.