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Optimistic, evolving into determined enthusiasm to get the job done. Rangers forever!!

It's a bit on the cruel side, and not very sporting, but it's all in the banter (no offence intended): Bobby Sands Ha Ha Ha Bobby Sands Ha Ha Ha Paul McBride Ha Ha Ha Paul McBride Ha Ha Ha Repeats Or insert another name(s) as appropriate for comedy effect (they don't even needed to be deceased - as death is the one true guarantee on life)

If we join the English league system, with ten years AFC will have joined us, or went semi-professional. The big money is down south, if we're bold enough to go got it.

Not all east coasters matey!! However, to get it right up Septic, I'd love to see a giant 'Ulster-Scots' flag in the stadium at the next home game. They'd be raging. Some help from the DUP and UUP to spike Alex Salmond's guns would also be appreciated!! Come on the Williamites!! Down with the Jacobites!!

That doesn't sense mate! The song would be directed at Septic fans only ... Why don't septic fans go home ... To wherever that is. The song's a fair shout!! And the more ideas the better .., the more ideas, better chance if uncovering a real gem that'll have 'em squirming!!

If Walter and Ally are at the helm, I'd have complete and absolute confidence the money would be used sensibly, responsibly and in the manner we'd all want. Walter Smith would be my choice as 'captain of the ship'. I will definitely be contributing. Onward and upward from here lads.

Clever. I like.

The essence of what I'm saying is: 1 - with the few modest changes I've proposed to TBB, I can see no reasonable objection to it being accepted for singing at football matches. 2 - the changes would make TBB no more or less offensive than 'The Flower of Scotland'. 3 - SDM didn't know what to do with TBB issue and ran away from it. With a new owner, this could be a oncein a generation opportunity to get TBB back. If it took the Club playing the music over the loudspeakers , with the words up on the big screen karaoke style, I'd say do it! However, the second element if what I'm saying is, if we all accept that TBB will not be making a Club approved return to our terraces (perhaps likely); we need a new signature tune. If you sit in Ibrox, as I do, you hear songs starting on fits and starts, and people generally unsure what you are and are not allowed to sing these days. That's a decision that if you get it wrong, you're likely to feel the long arm of the law on your collar. To resolve this, and make Ibrox truly intimidating again, wall of noise for 90+ mins; we effectively need a new signatur song; or atleast a Club approved (legally checked) old song. We can do more to intimidate opposition fans, and the officials (who have had the temerity, to give some right dodgy decisions against us this season). What do you think? I'd be especially keen on your response if you go / have chance to go to home games, in which case many of you will recognise the fits and starts singing I'm posting about.

Wise words. Care must certainly be taken with this issue. For protection of the Club from UEFA; and the fans from the SNP / sniping press. My proposal is very much under the caveat the Club would need to decide if it wanted to argue the case, on a point of freedom of speech. I have no doubt the Septic community are trying to gag us. A key point for me us the phrase bigot. To be a bigot, you have to be unreasonable. If our case is historically accurate and logically sound it is reasonable, and an entitlement under freedom of speech and expression; subject of course to careful legal check. That said, given TBB I'd currently banned, Do we want to see it returned in some form (for the football banter)? If not, we need to agree on a new signature song, to create the 90+ minutes wall of noise intimidation many people would like to see, hear and participate in.

And page after page thought ... This would work well at Rangers, and would stop Septic's corrosive propaganda dead in it's tracks; allowing us to return to the moral centre and high ground. In terms if the football banter, it'd leave Septic in a rage. Get in!!

During debate in recent post 'club ethos moving forward' I was surprised at the amount of secular and anti-religious feedback. With the sales of the Club nearing, I'd like to hear from the prospective new owners what their principles are, and what there long term plan comprises. I'm keen for the fan base to be involved in this, and if possible positively steer the new owners to support fair play and ethics in keeping with the long history and heritage of our people which is circa 500 years old. I'm hoping for sensible mature debate here. I welcome agreement and disagreement, however to distinguish genuine Teddy Bears from Septic infiltrators (who want to burn down our community), I'd appreciate if you do disagree, if you could be kind enough to state why, and preferably provide your own positive contribution to the debate. Statement of fact: Rangers Football Club had a long history and link with the Reformed Christian Church(s). Question: moving forward, would you like to retain this link, or become secular in outlook? Proposed answers (which I invite you to select from or add to): 1 - their is no place in football for religion, we should be a secular club moving forward. 2 - I am non religious, but I acknowledge and respect the Club's history in this regard, I'm happy for the Club to continue these links, though I have no strong wish to participate on the religious direction of the Club moving forward. 3 - I believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible, and would wish to see the Bible move forward on this basis. Note - this thinking is in keeping with the Septic side of the fence; modified by some if their more bizarre cult type policies (no offence intended - freedom of speech). 4 - I believe in a modern, reformed Christian church, respectful of all cultures and religions. Why is this important, and what has it got to do with football? A - the public sale of the Club represents a once in a generation opportunity to define who we are and what we are, in a positive and constructive manner. B - the Club had been under constant attack for many years, seeking to undermine our Club and community. Unresolved it gags freedom of speech and potentially inhibits people from many cultures investing in the Club or working for us, or playing for us. It is imperative we deal with this threat firmly and with finality, to give us as strong a platform as possible moving forward. What do I think? I'm option 4) modern reformed; and I would encourage the Club and potential buyers to publically adopt this policy. In support of my case, and for the religious out there, and there will be some, I'd respectfully encourage you to the a book by the American Biblical Scholar Marcus Borg, entitled 'how to read the Bible again for the first time: taking the Bible seriously but not literally. When I read the book, I found it spiritually enlightening, and page after

As further proof: I attend church today with my family earlier today. No holy water in sight. No bead rattling. During the Lord's Prayer - we all asked for forgiven of debt as we forgive our debtors. No offence was intend by this post. C'mon the Famous

I find the accusations if being a Septic infiltrator bizarre. They are absolutely incorrect, however, as Timothy is always watching, I need to be careful in what proofs I give. I'm hoping this just site banter and not a serious attack on my good standing in the community!! Here's an attempt at proof though: I've seen Rangers lift all three domestic trophies; and by that I mean I've been at the game. I was also at the game where we lifted the cup winners cup, but I was not in Barcalona. Where was I and what wad the game? Many genuine Teddy Bears won't even know the answer, because if you weren't at the game, you wouldn't know. WATP

TheAlukoMan's idea's were brilliant. I'd love to hear these belted out at Ibrox to create the intimidating wall of noise we all want. Question, if we were to settle on these, how do we organise it moving forward? Ideally the Club would pump out the music pre-match; with a statement and the words pre published including the programme and fanzines. 90 minutes plus 'wall of noise' only will do!!