*ricardopatrese*

I appreciate your support CB - you will find that I have never been abusive to anyone who has not dished it out first. The old 'he started it' argument. But it seems some are happy to dish it out but can't take it when it comes back to them. I don't know what Minstral's beef is. Maybe he's on his period.

Its a fair point mate, but the difference is that any other Creditor would never let the debt get to the stage that HMRC did and with their arbitrary penalty system they end up behaving and looking no better than a loan shark. And a pretty fucking careless one at that. £75M FFS! The debt should never have been allowed to be quoted as such - it's just frankly ridiculous and HMRC will end up looking like fools for allowing these figures to be bandied about whenever this gets to court. I for one can't wait for that day to come.

Downright stupid idea. I preferred this site when it allowed everyone on - at least you could have a bit of banter and you knew who you were speaking with.

Not that its AOYFB - i've been on here years ago (c;2006/9) = in those years ive had many email add's and pass's - and user-fucking names for that matter (none of which I can ever remember). that answer your nosey arsed questions you pain in the arse?

i dont know why you feel the need to involve yourself - but why just not bother? you seem to think you know me- you dont. so stop messaging me.

Fuck yourself you little cunt. Fucking fans forum and you start making allegations like this. Never said I had many accounts on THIS fucking site. Said I'd been on HERE for years you dipshit little prick.

I said suggested - you t'ic? wtf about banned? banned where?

WTFYOA?? I didnt say I had loads of accounts. said Id been on here a lot. said i have many guises, none of which is AOYFB. enuf?

WTF???? im gettin single white female vibes!!

TOTKO enuff for me

You got me confused with someone else? Have we met?

i said you suggested it - didnt say you called me it. and i said fuck you for suggesting it. enough for me. dont be a clever prick is all. you dont know me.

Fuckyou been on here on many guises before you for fuckin years (FUCKIN CHECK!) AND GIRFUY suggest callin me a taig ya wee c***

oh and in case it escaped your attention smart guy, I have 9 posts to my name on this forum. this name, this year anyway.

I wasnt quoting actual figures - just trying to highlight how quickly debts can rise with HMRC with hypothetical figures.

Apologies if this has been done to death - I havent read any more posts on it. The point is worth making and re-making at the expense of saving our club though dont you think? Can someone point me to other threads where this has been dealt with?

Forgive me if this has been mentioned before, however I am new to this forum and feel that this is an issue that needs to be aired for those that are not perhaps aware of the ridiculous pressures being brought to bear on our club by HMRC. I highlight these, as a small business owner myself, who has also come under pressure from the HMRC for falling behind in VAT and PAYE. I have come out the other side (after I, like almost everyone else, got royally fucked by the banks and government in 2008) and I've paid my dues. I'm not asking for judgement or looking for any kind of commentary, praise, criticism etc. I just want everyone to be aware of the ridiculous scenario that is being protrayed by HMRC and the HMRC LOYAL media with regards to RFC's Tax case - which I believe scares every Rangers fan to their core because of the ridiculous sums of money that are being bandied about as being owed. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17302801 Apparently the "small tax case" has gone from £2.5m in recent weeks to £4m to £9m to £15 Million - as reported today by the BBC. Where do these people get their figures from? A couple of years ago (or thereabouts) RFC owed about £20 (some) million in Taxes (PAYE and VAT - who knows!?) How accurate this figure was I have no idea. Here's what I do know and here's what has never bee reported... If you default your VAT (dont pay VAT when it's due) by 3 months - the HMRC charge you 5% on that sum. PLUS INTEREST until it's paid. If you default on your NEXT VAT as well - the HMRC charge you 10% on both sums owed. PLUS INTEREST until it's paid. If you default AGAIN on your NEXT VAT AS WELL - the HMRC charge you 15% on ALL sums owed. PLUS INTEREST until it's paid. Not including the interest chargeable, lets have a look at how this stacks up... Lets say RFC started out by defaulting on VAT alone on their March 2009 Return on a £10M bill (purely hypothetical to get my point across) By the time June return comes round, RFC owes £10.5M - £0.5 MILLION MORE Take to the next stage and lets assume FOR SIMPLICITY that ALL VAT IS PAID ON TIME FROM HEREON. When September return comes round, RFC owes £10.5M FOR jUNE'S RETURN plus £1.05M - £11.55 MILLION now Fast forward to December's - 15% rate kicks in - amount owed jumps to £13.05M In the space of Nine Months - HER MAJESTY'S Government demands a 30% PLUS return on amounts not paid - and thats NOT including FUCKING INTEREST! Lets recap: 1 default: 5% 2 defaults: 10% 3 defaults: 15% 4 or more defaults: 15% thereafter Guys - this is just a nine month period I'm talking about here. After the 15% rate kicks in, every Quarter thereafter is calculated at 15% which means that £10M costs £1.5M ALONE to service to the Government every bloody quarter! Think about it. A company in this kind of position... After 2 years ALONE of this nonsense of non-paid VAT for one quarter of £10M, the company would end up oweing HMRC nearly DOUBLE at £19.05m PLUS INTEREST!!!!!!!!! And that's just one quarter of difficulty - which Her Majesty's Government (Revenue & Customs) insists you get fucked over for. Look at those figures and tell me the Sheriff of Nottingham is not alive and well and trying to take our club up the ass. I don't know Craig Whyte and I think his PR is awful. But I know HMRC all too well and they are useless cunts who don't know what they are doing and they make a rich living out of (you and me) doing it. be careful who you direct your anger at is all I ask: - HER MAJESTY'S REVENUE & CUSTOMS (Trust me, the irony stings like a bitch) or... Craig Whyte / SDM - who prior to the 2008 Banking FUCKUP were HUGELY successful and wealthy Businessmen Lloyds TSB - their withdrawal of banking support in terms of overdrafts etc (which came at HUGE COST whilst they offered it) and ultimately resulted in RFC using HMRC as their short term 'Banking alternative'. The whole thing stinks like a cesspit. You decide where your allegiances should lie. If you still bank with Lloyds / HBOS after this, shame on you. If (after reading the 5%, 10%, 15% incremental quarterly increases above) you decide you should still pay your taxes, well good for you. Me? Where's Robin fucking Hood when you need him?

Stacey gets my vote - even though she has a gayboy as her avatar

cant = sorry

1973 -- when I was born. do it all again and buy rangers at the age of 18 as a billionnaire techno genius. should listened to the twats that told me to stick at my commodore vic 20 (or whatever!)

sorry to see you go gregg. a real talent.

I can see admin and players points of view.