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Did nobody else get an official letter stating the clubs finances and running.. i'm sure it said we had a 17 million wage bill included all staff at the club. think it was only down 5 million from last season

Thats ibrox im afraid, one of the most impatient places in europe but i genuinely think its a scottish thing, the majority want to see fast agrresive football. All I think about when discussing this is barry ferguson, a complete class above but slated by idiots for being "negative"

Maybe I am not explaining things well, my ideal scenario would be an independent Scotland with the monarch remaining which would happen anyway. We are a proud protestant nation and I think it's great that we have such strong bonds with ulster men but I just hate being ruled by a London government, that is all. Anyway have a good night chaps i'm off out for a pint.

I'm done in this thread don't want to argue. Fuck me i support an independent scotland shoot me. It's a sad day when it stops becoming about Rangers and has to be about supporting Britain.

no i'm looking into northern irelands troubles from the outside. I am not going to pretend i am an ulster man and wave an ulster flag. I am scottish and like i say have a view of ulster from the outside.

You continue to suck englands cock then mate

No but they would take note of Rangers. Whether you like it or not the tartan army are loved in other countries, the union flag is despised as is England. If we went to say France and flew Scottish flags singing songs of Scotland we have alot more chance of people taking a liking and selling more shirts world wide. But I can't really see it happening if we continue to go abroad with union flags singing ftp when over 1 billion people are catholic. Yes you could say why the hell would we want to make friends, but football is a commercial business now and the more sales and recognition around the world the better for us. Again just my opinion. You see all the dutch players in Rangers tartan at arthur numans wedding in his book, he says how much he loves scotland and how much the dutch players took to scotland. Our culture is unique and fantastic and our country is something to be proud of.

Back in the day I bet you would never of thought Scotland would get devolution. Things change and times change

No. The Ira are a disgrace to the human race. However I do not agree with English and Scots settling in Ulster and confiscating land from Irish. But when the time came that Ireland went it alone you could never of made it a united ireland because of all the loyalist now in the north. It is a fucked up situation. There is no "right" solution as you can see the points from both sides. The horrors that went on there though means it is obviously a very delicate situation for those involved and I am just giving my opinion from the outside.

Bigotry against English people? no. But i despise Westminster and despise the mentality of a huge element of English still thinking they are a super power when clearly they are not and never will be again. If Scotland doesn't get independence this time round we will eventually, 20/30 years ago you would never think we would be where we are now. Just my opinion though and I am entitled to it.

what is PLG doing? has he no been shite since leaving us?

Cunt ! anyway fuck History. I'm off to get my scouting badges

no i'm not meaning in the islands im just meaning the Argentinians will always think it's theirs just like the irish will always claim northern ireland is theirs. There is no real solution, those two countries will always claim it's rightfully theirs but the people living there will see it differently. It's one of the worlds big fuck ups. Same as in israel against those maddies in the ggaza strip

What grade? if you beat my amazing "2" then i may see your points in a different light

Read above, obviously now the majority want it British simply because they are from Britain/descending from British. My whole argument was the Brits owning it in the first place. Nothing to do with Scotland and its independence. Scotland has always been a country, The islands has always been territory. Like Northern Ireland, the majority now want to remain in the Uk however their will always be division. What it comes down to is british moving into territorry they have no right in.. like the plantation of Ulster. Obviously now it remains part of the uk through generations but only because of wrong doings in the first place, so their will always be division.

You are misunderstanding my point completely, yes ofcourse the islanders want to remain British now but that is only because it is mainly full of Brits now. My point all along was owning it in the first place, Argentina will always claim it is theirs and it is just going to role on and on.

You have totally gone over the top in your comments against mine. My point was we went to a war and lost soldiers simply because we were trying to keep over seas territories that should never have been ours in the first place but it got to that stage. My point was because of all that had happened now there will always be a divide when it comes down to that island! How many Brits died in the american revolution? do you hold that against the americans and claim that land should be ours? Nobody wants a war but the british(english) seem to be very good at it. This idea that you turn around me saying the Brits shouldn't own the Falklands to saying i do not care about brits who lost their lifes is totally over the top and a completely uncalled for comment.

haha tbh i think we will be standing shoulder to shoulder with zee Germans in ww3 against some Islamist with a nuclear weapon

haha point taken

All day long mate, Germany is the most powerfull and best run country in Europe and that is a fact. Infact they must be getting pissed off with having to bail out the likes of Spain etc, England are a disater of a nation right now and will only get worse which is fine if they try to sort themselves out etc but i am for a united Europe and if we remain British we will pull out of the EU simply because England will vote in favour. The united Kingdom really is nothing anymore, China, India, Brasil are just a few countries that may reject to the notion that "Britannia rules the waves"!

Where have i been offensive, ignorant or stupid in that post? I do not want to argue with fellow Bears over politics but being labelled these things just because i hate the union? I am a big fan of the monarch, and the queen shall remain our monarch in an independent protestant Scotland. Infact the monarchy is more Scottish and German than English anyway. I just refuse to let Westminster govern us.

Celtic are turning more and more Irish.. Rangers have a great chance to fly the flag for Scotland Blue and white around Europe and we will generate alot more support around the continent. As for stand alone, if we get indpendence we will inevitably join the EU, imo we need a strong united Europe and if England hold a referendum and pull out of the EU then fuck them. I would much rather we stood shoulder to shoulder with much stronger nations like Germany and France in a united Europe than with England. But hey everyone can vote what they want. lets just see As for Donald Trump, i agree that tit needs removed from this country ASAP!!

But it is okay to be called everything under the sun if you support independence? Since when did it stop being about Rangers and about being british? I have seen many old videos of Rangers fans on their travels with Scottish lion rampants galore. I understand peoples opinions on it but this unwillingness to accept somebody at ibrox doesn't like the union and complete narrow minded attitude of some people baffle me. Not saying you are, just in general.

They aren't shit but they are nowhere near good enough for the top division.. there are far far better Scottish youth than what we have, McLeod is the only one who looks like making it with us. Are scouting for young talent even in our own country needs to improve!