Fiogh
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Totally different argument ffs. Of course beating them will be ok but we then need to win the thing IMO. Finishing 2nd after beating them is a waste..
At the very least beating them will ensure they don't win the thing themselves. That, coupled with winning an Old Firm, is much better than losing and watching them lift the cup. What you are saying smacks of entitlement.
How is the 2008 analogy 'totally different'? We lost the final, so in retrospect would you prefer we lost the semis seeing as we weren't going to win it anyway?
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I went to a Napoli game when over there on holiday about 15/16 years ago. Even though they were in Serie B then it was still mental. Was a great experience though and would love to go back. We'd just went in and sat down where there was an empty area, next thing the ultras came in and told us to move as that was their patch. He wasn't too friendly about it to begin with but once he realised we were tourists he was fine, or maybe it was once he seen my Gers top! We had asked the guy on reception in our hotel in Sorrento for advice on getting there as we had to take the train to Naples then get the metro to the stadium. He told us that once we got to Naples just to follow the fans, you couldn't miss them. I'd definitely recommend it to anyone going over there on holiday,
That was the old Napoli mate, this video is the new Napoli
By August 2004, Napoli was declared bankrupt with debts[clarification needed] estimated up to €70 million.[33] To secure football in the city, film producer Aurelio De Laurentiis refounded the club under the name Napoli Soccer,[4] as they were not allowed to use their old name.Better get the tims on the line to Diego to break the bad news (don't worry that all sporting and legal bodies recognise them as the same club, never bothered them before)
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As things are atm what benefit can we get by beating them and not winning it..A buzz for a few days then back to normal every week pish? If thats the case we as a fan base are as low as ever expectation wise
As a Rangers fan you should always want your team to beat Celtic - it's like saying you'd rather we lost that night in Florence because of what happened in the final.
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Scotland are not big rivals of England ,havent been for decades,it means more to the English to beat Germany or Argentina.
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What does it achieve by beating them n getting beat by united or Aberdeen..winning the cup is why we are in it not to beat them.
I know, I'd rather beat them AND win the cup rather than just beat them - but surely both are preferable to losing to them and not winning it?
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So you'd rather we lost to them if we aren't going to win the cup? Beating them with this mediocre team, a division below, in the first Old Firm since all the vitriol will definietly not "count for nothing".
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Like a parody of themselves at the moment.
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Can't choose between Cahill, Ibra, Costa, Kasami or Roche
I discounted Ibra's, not because the skill wasn't incredible but if that sad excuse for a centre half actually tries to head the ball then there is no way Ibra is doing it.
The Irish girls one is outstanding, just a shame the footage is so shite.
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What's everyone's favourite this year?
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The Ipswich Under-11s coach added: "You could say it's just as bad being given a job because of your skin colour as it is not being given a job.
The Rooney Rule isn't about giving people jobs though, just interviews.
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dont understand why clubs put mascots in the circle at minutes silence's , always looks daft as fuck
Joleon Lescott's head is Mascot sized.
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Foster's open goal v Valencia
Anyway, Dortmund just beat Gladbach 1-0, thanks to a fantastic own goal by Kramer. Lobbed his own keeper from 40 yards out trying to play it back to him.
A win against Gladbach is a great result, but they were really lucky regarding the goal.
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Crazy to think that was 10 years ago. By todays standards that Prso incident was a stonewall penalty!
We never utilised Arveladze properly, magnificent player.
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You've got to wonder if they can report anything about us and get the facts right. I watched the 2nd half again when I got home last night (the 1st half was bad enough the first time!) and at the end they said outwith the challenge cup that was the first semi-final we had qualified for since 2011. I must have dreamt going to the scottish cup semi at Ibrox last April.
I had the exact same thought. Standard level of competency from big Liam McLeod.
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I suppose the difference between wanting Ashley to come on board and maybe realising that most of us are not particularly enamored by the man but will have absolutely no choice on the matter is completely lost.
I get the impression the Geordies think we are desperate to get Ashley on board when in fact most of us are just hoping that SOMEONE steps up and runs the club properly including getting a decent team on the park. If thats Ashley great, if its someone else then thats great to.
The actual personalities involved are a side show - its the end result that counts..
Great point
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My memory stretches back to Hereford Utd in the early seventies - this, again, is nothing new to them
Perhaps, I'm talking about a sustained period of 4/5 years of fringe teams being fielded in both cup competitions and early exits every time - all under Pardew and Ashley's watch, due to a complete lack of ambition to win anything because premier league survival is all that is needed for his business model to work.
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Folk comparing us to Newcastle and opposition. EPL stars to postmen
I wouldn't have thought you'd have the cognitive ability to understand the actual issues being discussed - and so it has proved.
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Not watched much of this season but last season they were decent to wacth I thought.
Regardless that's down to the manager and caoching staff, Ashley backed Pardrew decent enough especially in getting back to the EPL and staying there.
Just because Newcastle play a certain brand of football has no baring on what we will play should Ashley come here.
Well depends what style you enjoy, I know that last season they played the most long balls in the league (can't find the stats just now but will keep looking) and were generally pilloried as being very direct and without much flair.
True, but owners can set the type of football they want thier club to play - you wouldn't get Swansea or Southampton (sorry to keep using the same examples but they illustrate a point) playing that kind of long ball direct football because the owner wouldn't hire a manager that played like that.
We can wait and see anyway, as I've said he'll bring alot of good in terms of the business side, my main concern is whether he can marry that up with the football side of things.
EDIT: not exactly what I was looking for but the F365 links show they played the most long balls per game in 2012/2013
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They don't play part time sides in a diddy cup...
Ally's cup record is non existant and that is in a country where only 1 team have more resources than us.
Obviously, but they have been knocked out by lower league teams/in the very first rounds of both cups for the last 4/5 seasons. Look at Swansea's League cup win, or Wigans FA cup win - success married with sustainable finances and those clubs are much smaller than Newcastle.
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Would you be happy to finish 1st if it meant getting into the shit again financially and a repeat of this bullshit over the past 3 years?
If we are run to a profit and get the right manager in place there is no reason why we cannot be winning the title in this country as there is only 1 serious competitor. Newcastle are up against 7-8 teams who are well out in front in terms of financial muscle and there's another 5-6 clubs in and around the same scope as they are.
It's a totally different situation.
The days of us trying to outspend Celt*c are well and truly over…we need to actually work for it now and that's down to the manager, coaching staff and players. Until we get into Europe and CL we just are not going to be spending millions on players. Ashley has proven he can get his club bringing in cheapish players then selling on for a serious profit…that's what is needed at Rangers as this is going to be one of our main money making areas.
Chasing the title and spending millions on it then coming back full circle to where we are would just be foolish and fans who expect or want that need to engage the brain for once.
Can't argue with most of that, I am very much in favour of the sustainable financial model and running at a profit - any Rangers fan who has lived through the last 5 years would be foolish to want a return to the old spend spend spend days under Murray. IMO outside of the very top clubs, the only way to operate is the buy cheap/produce your own players who you then sell on for a profit and repeat the cycle.
My main point is really that this can be done in a progressive way, such as with Swansea and Southampton, where sound financial practice is married with a progressive footballing philosophy and greater ambition. If you have spent any time watching an Alan Pardew team (or even look up the stats on long balls etc.) you'll see that the football is turgid - something we complain about all the time on here.
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Can you have footballing ambition with Newcastle?
You could be more ambitious than being happy to finish 17th every year - see their atrocious cup record under his ownership (makes Ally's look magnificent)
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Yeah by getting them running at a profit, buying players for low fees then selling of for ££'s while still performing decent enough in EPL.
Newcastle have this false sense of entitlement that they should be fighting at the top of the table...they are mental.
The clubs at the top end are clubs with bags of money and ran by billionaires. United, City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal...
Sure he could blow millions and try to get into the top 4-5 spots and run the risk of the club suffering financially, all in the name of footballing ambition…sound familiar?
No doubts he's run the club well financially, something that would be more than welcome with us given the current situation. I don't think most Newcastle fans are unrealistically ambitious; you'd struggle to find many saying they should be in the top 4/5 every season.
I don't think he would be a disaster here, but after what has happened with Charles Green surely there needs to be an air of scepticism and scrutiny for any new owners? Too many folk think he'll be nothing but good, all I'm saying is we have to consider the down sides of the way he operates too.
FWIW, some of the criticisms that could be levelled at him - Effectively turned St James park into a giant advertising board for Sports Direct with no regard for the tradition or history of the club (something that is obviously important to us as well), horrendous managerial appointments of Joe Kinnear and Alan Shearer, the disgraceful way he handled the Keegan situation, Oversaw them being relegated from the top flight, Selling of top players with inferior replacements (nobody is saying spend millions, but alot of the signings have not worked out), poor % of transfer profits re-invested into the club.
On top of that, having Newcastle just maintain there place in league so he can keep reaping the financial rewards will be totally different to what is expected at Rangers - would you be happy to finish 2nd every year if it meant we made a profit?
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Anyone who has watched what's been happening at Newcastle over the last few years should surely have concerns? I know we are all looking for financial stability and long term planning, but Ashley seems to have absolutely no footballing ambition.
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He was the first name that sprung to mind when BP9 spouted his usual pro-Ally pish.
There is such a backwards mentality in this country when it comes to loads of aspects of football management and development; It's the reason our national team have been poor for decades, our clubs flounce in Europe and we haven't developed a technically gifted all round player since Kenny Dalglish. Anyone who thinks Rangers are being run well, heading in the right direction with a forward thinking management team and coaches who improve players year on year is either ignorant or deluded IMO.
Relentless positivity for something that is failing is not helping the club, despite what some may believe.
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Favourite wins at Tynecastle
in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom
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Seeing as winning on Saturday is looking unlikely, what have your favourite wins at Tynecastle been over the years?
Mine (footage on 1 and 3 isn't great):