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  1. When you are a kid/youngster all you can comprehend is the football - this player is fast, this player scores lots etc, you lack the overall understanding of the world and how it works to realise much of the 'non-football' stuff.

    I often think, was there less boardroom stuff years ago, or was I just too young and not well versed enough to comprehend it and thus focused on the only thing that should really matter - the football? I had no idea about club structure until I was in High School.

  2. I was pretty good as a youngster, then I missed the deciding penalty in a shoot out to decide a local cup final. The coach blamed me and I never really recovered from that, packed it all in and became a lawyer instead; unfortunately I got caught DUI and the court ruled community service - coaching the local under 14's! They were awful when I started, but with some hard work and heart warming bonding I turned them into champions, beating the team my old coach managed in the final; rediscovered my love of the game and started playing at junior level again. Was one game away from the pro leagues when some fucker crocked my knee and had to retire. Who knows what the future holds...

  3. The quality of football has never been all that great as long as I've watched us - most of what I remember has been far from 'winning in style' save from some stand out matches. And when the football has been more aesthetically pleasing, results and success haven't always followed (Later Advocaat and PLG spring to mind).

    There is nothing wrong with fans striving for more from the team and management, it's what keeps us at the top and stop complacency setting in, but to call for a managers head when he's won 100% of his league games and we're in November is ludicrous.

  4. Mojo in at 8

    http://www.football365.com/topical-top-10/9022105/Top-Ten

    10) Emmanuel Adebayor - for Manchester City v Arsenal, 2009

    What people forget in the hand-wringing about what a disgraceful thing Adebayor did by running the length of the pitch to celebrate in his first game for City against his former club Arsenal, is that it was really funny. Or at least, the reaction from the Arsenal fans present was really funny. Even in the heightened atmosphere of a football match, surely a grown-up would think 'what an arse', call him your swear word of choice, then go back to wondering why your defence had allowed him a free header. Rather than doing this.

    9) Kevin Phillips - for Crystal Palace v Watford, 2013

    A slow-burner, this one. Watford sold Phillips to Sunderland for what seems today to be a relatively paltry £325,000 in 1997, but at the time was a perfectly reasonable sum for a decent second-tier striker. After Sunderland, Phillips' career would take in Southampton, Aston Villa, West Brom, Birmingham, Blackpool and then last season Crystal Palace. He didn't play very often, but tended to pop up when it mattered, and it could hardly have mattered more than in the play-off final. Palace won a penalty, Phillips stepped up, and his old team were condemned to another year in the Championship.

    8) Mo Johnston - for Rangers v Celtic, 1989

    You all know the story of how Mo Johnston became the first Catholic to sign for Rangers (even though he actually wasn't). Johnston had scored 52 goals for Celtic before going to Ibrox (via Nantes) and upsetting the Pope (probably) in 1989. Johnston of course was treated with some suspicion by Rangers fans throughout his first season, but went some way to winning the doubters over in the first Ibrox Old Firm game of the season, popping up in the 89th minute to score the

    in a 1-0 win. John Paul II's thoughts on the game are sadly unrecorded.

    7) Dean Saunders - for Aston Villa v Liverpool, 1992

    September 19, 1992 is of course Ronnie Rosenthal Day. The glorious occasion when Ronnie took aim, lined up the goal and hammered the ball against the crossbar from 12 yards out, goalkeeper Nigel Spink engaged elsewhere. History forgets that Rosenthal did actually score that day, but his efforts were rendered rather pointless by Saunders, purchased by Villa days before from Liverpool, who scored the first two Villa goals as they scampered back from behind to win 4-2. These days, there would have been some sort of 'gentleman's agreement' or similar tish and fipsy preventing him from playing. Down with that sort of thing.

    6) Luis Figo - for Real Madrid v Barcelona, 2002

    "A pig's head! How the hell did someone bring a pig's head in? What was going through his mind?" Michel Salgado was as alarmed as any normal person would be after some curiously vengeful Barcelona fans chose an interesting way of expressing their displeasure at Luis Figo, recently departed from Catalunya to the great enemy. "By the second or third corner I turned to Luís Figo and said: 'Forget it, mate. You're on your own'" said Salgado, as lighters, bottles and pretty much anything that could conceivably be used as a missile rained down on Figo. "I must be one of the very few sportsmen to have had to perform with 120,000 people against me - and focused on me, not the team," said Figo. Perhaps unsurprisingly, Figo was dreadful in a match that finished 0-0, but he and Real had the last laugh, winning the title at the end of the season.

    5) Zlatan Ibrahimovic - for AC Milan v Internazionale, 2010

    If you were going to write a goal, you'd probably include it being scored early in a game, for a player appearing for the first time against a team with which he won several league titles, for their local rivals. Oh, and you'd include Zlatan Ibrahimovic, because any script worth its salt should include Zlatan Ibrahimovic. After leaving Inter for his ill-advised spell at Barcelona, Zlatan returned to Italy to play for AC Milan, and four minutes into his first game back against Inter, he was chopped to the ground by Marco Materazzi, who was sporting a Travis Bickel-esque mohawk that you wonder, given his reputation, he hadn't had for years before.

    , of course, and celebrated by standing still with his arms outstretched, like a Swedish Christ the Redeemer, only with a higher opinion of himself.

    4) Andrea Pirlo - for Juventus v AC Milan, 2011/12

    This isn't one game, but instead a whole season. At the end of the 2010/11 season, Milan had won Serie A and decided they no longer needed Pirlo, the old boy's old bones having finally reached their breaking point. To be fair, he had only played 17 times that season, suggesting they at least had some logic to their decision, and most assumed that Pirlo would play out the rest of his days at a minor Italian side. It was something of a surprise therefore that Juve snapped him up on a free, but they clearly saw something that everyone else had missed. Pirlo grew a beard and was at the heart of Juve's two league titles in the intervening years, as Milan cut costs and floundered.

    3) Fernando Morientes - for Monaco v Real Madrid, 2004

    Does this count, given that Real Madrid weren't technically Morientes' former club when he scored against them in the quarter-final of the 2004 Champions League? One hopes the Real Madrid suit who, for reasons passing understanding, omitted a 'you can't play against us' clause in Morientes' loan deal to Monaco was fired, or at least given a big hat with an H (for hubris) on it to wear for the remainder of his days. Morientes scored in the first leg at the Bernabeu, but at the time it looked like a consolation, given that Real won the game 4-2, but he would make an even greater contribution in the return, setting up one for Ludovic Giuly and

    as Monaco won 3-1 and went through on away goals.

    2) Robin van Persie - for Manchester United v Arsenal, 2012

    It was inevitable that Van Persie was going to score against Arsenal in his first game against them. For years, Arsenal fans kept themselves going on the notion that, if they could get Van Persie fit, he'd be brilliant, and thus they'd be brilliant. Well, eventually he did get fit, but only half of their wish came true, and he decided to take his fitness and his goals elsewhere. Van Persie's goal against Arsenal in United's 2-1 win at Old Trafford was doubly heart-breaking for the attendant Gooners, especially because it came in such a limp defeat. Their shining light was now shining against them, and it looked very, very dark for them.

    1) Denis Law - for Manchester City v United, 1974

    Hey, here's something you've never ever heard before. Something absolutely no pub know-it-all has ever guffawingly told you. Something that is bound to be a brand-new knowledge hand-grenade, launched right into your brain. Ready? Brace yourself. Here it comes: Denis Law's backheeled goal at the end of the 1973/74 season against Manchester United didn't actually relegate his old team. We know. There you were, labouring under this misapprehension for so long and nobody thought to correct you.

    That sarcasm overload not withstanding,

    - which Law actually did think had sent United into the second division - hit him hard. "I was inconsolable," he said in 2010. "I didn't want it to happen. How long did the feeling last? How long ago was the game? Thirty-odd years. There is your answer." Law was immediately substituted and never played league football again, and the game was actually abandoned before the 90 minutes was up after some enterprising wannabe hoolies invaded the pitch in the hope of having the result annulled. Unfortunately for them, the FA decided it would stand, and United were down, thanks to results elsewhere.
  5. I've watched a few of these videos now - there is clear evidence of them causing damage/fighting with no visible provocation.

    One thing that fucks me off about Celtic fans, is there complete nonacceptance that their fanbase contains some scum who would (and do) cause trouble. Football fanbases are generally quite mixed, especially for a heavily supported club, so it'd be more surprising if clubs DIDN'T have some complete cunts following them who will cause trouble - every club does, and ones who travel abroad more or in greater numbers are naturally gonna have more opportunity to 'showcase' them. Hell, i know and have been around some rangers fans who have behaved despicably, I wouldn't say they are representative of the support as a whole or even that there are a significant number of them - but they do exist. Why Celtic and their fans cannot admit likewise utterly baffles me.

  6. Couple of things.

    When they were winning the league every season, they decided to build a new stadium, which turned out to be way more expensive than planned. That's why they cut to make some cuts.

    These cuts led to them not making the Champions League, which led to further cuts.

    Add in the financial emergence of PSG and, latterly, Monaco, they just can't compete any more. They'll still finish in the top 4/5 I reckon though.

    Cheers. Kinda like a less irresponsible 'Leeds' style chain reaction then.

  7. Off topic(ish) but em and one of my friends were discussing Lyon the other day and wondered exactly what happened to them:

    They had a good model of buying in young, promising players relatively cheaply, getting success with them and then selling them on at a huge profit to be replaced by another up and comer (and the cycle repeats). They had access to Champs league money every season to invest in this model and produced good youth players, and now they are 16th or something?

    They struck me as a French Porto, same kind of set up and Porto have always remained prominent!

  8. I can see it from both sides to be honest, especially if you are attending every (or almost every) game. I don't make many matches so any occasion watching us is one I enjoy; however does it feel the same watching us at home Montrose in a procession than it did watching us take on Aberdeen, Hearts etc whilst battling Celtic for the title? Not even close.

    Still feel the same way about rangers, but bigger/more competitive experiences are far better, I'd wager anyone saying otherwise is lying to themselves slightly.

  9. Incorrect use of the word "too" is fucking criminal. Should be punishable by law.

    It's more effort to get it wrong (was tempted to write 'too get it wrong' there...)

    Anyway, there is surely no way a keeper could make essentially the same 'misjudgement' twice in the one game. I was thinking maybe he was reluctant to grab the ball for the second one until he was sure he was in his box, but both times there is no need to come rushing out.

  10. I hate judging players simply because of the honours they won. Kirk Broadfoot could be world class to anyone that doesn't follow Scotch football.

    Like Djimi Traore having the same number of Champions league winners medals as Ronaldo you mean?

  11. Sometimes players just lose that extra edge that made them sensational much like Mols with us after his injury, he was still a fine striker afterwards but nowhere near what he was.

    Torres has suffered the same kind of fate.

    Agreed. Sometimes he just looks completely shot of confidence as well and takes a bad touch or loses the ball cheaply, whereas before he would have taken a defender out of the game with a deft touch or used his acceleration to create enough space to shoot. But overall, I reckon he could lead the line competently for most teams in Europe.

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