Bluefarm

You want to meet any VB'S and look at their account, just say the word. Although, there will be feck all to look at, as they don't keep any cash, it goes on Rangers shares, donations to Loyalist causes, CCTV in the PUL hub on Duke st and Erskine.£600 was handed over to Twaddle peace camp 3 weeks ago and another £100 to the YCV flute bands legal costs. A strictly not for profit website and strictly adhered to by about 8 individuals. PS all costs for the website are met by admin.

The BBC admitted to us in private, certain reporting had been wrong. Doing feck all isn't an option any more.

It doesn't happen because we are cliquish and apathetic. I'm only talking about my personal experiences of trying to get Bears to show force. For example, I organised the demonstrations at the BBC. I reckon we had about 350 and 250 Bears attending. Now, this was on match day and just along from the stadium. If Rangers fans can't be arsed demonstrating against an organisation steeped in hatred for our club and fans, then what will they protest about?

I've no idea? I've tried to get Bears and Unionist to engage for years now.

Can you imagine if just 2% of those who attended the UEFA cup final in Manchester starting finding a voice? We are the most lackadaisical support I've ever witnessed.

You are correct to a certain degree. I was heavily involved in setting up VB, but don't take any part these days. However, the aim was never to be a voice of the Rangers support, but more to allow Bears a forum to express their views freely and without fear of being banned for doing so. We also saw it as good opportunity for Loyalists and Unionists to have their say on topical issues. I suppose over the years, the group have grown way beyond what we thought it would be and that brings all the usual crap that comes with being a distant voice of the Rangers support. I know for a fact, they have no ambitions to be the voice of the Rangers support and happy enough doing what they do. For instance, 40 VB's went to Belfast a few weeks ago and handed over 600 quid to Twaddell peace camp and another 100 to the YCV band for their legal fees ( they won ) They see the Loyalist part of their forum as every bit as important as the football side.

I've said it god knows how many times, but don't think things will ever change. If the Rangers support spoke with one unified voice, we would be an unstoppable force. Speaking as one against lies and smears in the media, electing Rangers supporting politicians to positions of power and demonstrating against the injustices our club has faced.

There appears to be nothing more divisive within the Rangers support ( Online ) than fans groups and individuals. However, In my opinion, many of these groups do more good than bad. Now, without anyone getting personal or aiming abuse at individuals, it would be interesting to read what most Bears think and want from these groups. Which supporters group do you think represents how you feel and think? Should the club be engaging more with fans, other than those they are friendly with? Should fans groups be disbanded and we allow the club to do what they think is best? Should we have one group who deals directly with media lies and smears regarding our support? Has any Rangers board ever listened to what the fans think or say? As I said above, please don't get bogged down in abuse and confrontation, just say constructively who you feel represents the Rangers supporters best and how we can improve any fans to club communication.

I find it rather refreshing that RM allows opinions to be aired. Although I did notice one rather irate nutter on FF last night who didn't agree. Taunton bear - now who could that be? It appears a small band don't like anything to be said unless it comes directly from the Kremlin.

They have more than 700 members.

I'm genuinely surprised at so many comments on this thread. Rangers fans really need to start worrying more about the enemies of our club and support and not this utter drivel. We have Bheasts attacking all things Rangers 24/7 and we are getting hung up about pile of bullshit? If we put in as much time attacking Bheasts .......

A sad thread in many ways. A support divided and split by a small clique of vocal self promoters. If the Rangers support United as one, we would be an unstoppable force. If these guys sell a few books to the gullible, so be it it. We, the majority who only support the club, really need to start taking on our real enemies and stop bothering about a few profiteers. Forget these guys and concentrate on the haters of our club in the media and elsewhere.

That you Craig?

T shirts, clothing, Xmas cards, soccer academies, pay per click websites, books, zines and much more for sale at your local Rangers fans rep shop. Roll up, roll up, the profit makers are on the make at Christmas again.

If the response on FF is anything to go by, there won't be many buying this drivel. It's a £1 in Bargain Books job - nothing surer.

Next chapter written in green crayon. "How I came home to find the lights on".

A bheast talking about Rangers - who would have thought it?

What will it take for the board to ban the BBC for good?

I believe Dave King will soon be linked to the Russian and Italian Mafia. PS, this is for Bheasts to believe and Bears to completely ignore.

Every successful football team needs a Fergie. He wasn't the most flamboyant player in the 9 in a row side, but he was one of the best. He was also an out an out bluenose which was a help.

(((((( Bheast alert ))))))

Ffs, the clique are embarrassing beyond belief. Attacking Bears, the Orange order and the PUL community. Not one word about Haggerty. Makes you wonder what and who these interlopers are?

The online clique hate Rangers fans, Orangemen and Loyalists. There's no more to say about these people who lecture us on what's good for our club. They have nothing in common with most Rangers fans. In fact, I've never met any Rangers fans like them.

Ffs, here we go with the "this is your life" posts. Stop telling everyone your family secrets, no one gives a feck. Honestly, you are posting some amount of drivel. Think you need to take a break matey.

Has anyone ever met anyone like Dude at a Rangers game? Dude turned the above into me wanting to meet him and telling me he's not hard to find ? I get the feeling this guy is fecking nuts. ?