baldeagle

cowan appeals to the lowest common denominator.

The Pied Piper is up in Murray's office getting lessons in how to lead every one and there granny on a merry dance, Pied Piper is particularly interested in the bold Minty's flute, which as well as playing the Sash and Living in the past, blaws smoke and mirrors and also can be used to call his tame media tadgers to heel.

Ruff Daddy is from Knightswood from a big bluenose family, he lived in the Lincoln avenue flats, now known as Taliban Towers, I used to walk along South Street with his faither, who was security in Yarrows. I would have loved to see some of you, who are throwin the toys oot the pram and spittin the dummy, in the sixties when it was real rivalry, nae shoutin aff buses or across roads, grow a pair and leave a great Scotland keeper to his musings. That is an absolute belter. Rough is one of the worst goalkeepers ever to get a game for the hooped horrors, never mind get a cap for Scotland. Sad thing is that he played more times for Scotland than he did for them. When he played, he couldn't keep weans out of a close, and as a pundit, he is the intellectual equivalent of my last sh ite. What a guy. What an absolute bladder, Roughy saved shots harder than your keek, post your Scotland caps up so we can see them, weans ? keep those references for T*rrier boards where they belong...

You can't beat a good Proddy education, what happened to you.

what the hell are you talking about????????????????? The H*** (if we are talking nazi 2nd world war type H***) were given the ok by the vatican during the second world war. No one has saved the world from catholicism. There are a lot more catholics than protestants. Being called a H** is not a term of endearment. We are Rangers fans, Bears, Gers, Teddy Bears but not H*** Im not bothered by what Roughie said but i dont like being classed under that name. what the hell you talkin bout?????...so the feeniaans would call us a huun because the vatican backed us during the war ????? so should we not be calling the feeeniiiansss huuns ??what the hell you talkin bout????? Did i say any of those things?...........No You said the H*** more or less saved the world from catholicism... i questioned that. All the way through this thread people have mentioned that H*** meaning German nazis. You will need to back up your comments because you will find that most folk do not want to be called a H**. many years ago in a land far far away there lived a guy called ATTILA....you got it yet? he hated RCs the romans if you dont know what RC means,cause they where trying to conquer the world .. ATTILA and his H*** revolted and fought back that much that the romans gave in folded and offered them allsorts cause they couldnt defeat him....GERMANS by fuck ...would love to read the full explanation on why and how we would be called germans...? is it because we raged war on ourselves maybe..lol..? I think we are all aware of the true meaning of the word H**, but that is not the reason that we are nicknamed H***. If only it was as noble as that. thats my whole point of saying it doesnt bother me one bit being called it,cause all the rattlers know is the actuall word, they havnt had the education on the reason why they use it...they probably have been brainwashed in their houses of ill repute that ATTILA is the devil,hes a huuun,we must hate him who knows what goes on inside they doors wednesdays and sundays .but i will guarantee you this its got fuck all to do with germans .. at the time in the 16th century the swiss,hungarians and germans where dead against catholocism and backed the reformation unlike france ffs.. anyway that aside the huuns back then saw that the romans where trying to take over the world and acted... more recently the germans saw that the jews where trying to take over the world AND WRONGLY ACTED..hence they where called hunns... we the protestant brits stepped in with some help not by the french but the protestant resistance and the yanks and stopped them... sorry for a history lesson but ...GERMANS WE AINT....lol Did you go tae a timminite school....... * the H** is a morphological form of H** o an offensive word for a German person, used especially during the First and Second World Wars noun informal + Irregular: H*** plural; the H** plural Now you are educated go forth and spread the word. El Papa is a H** !!!!!!

Your source is talkin pish, Roughy wore a rangers T shirt under his goalies jersey, when I played with him at Sighthill Amateurs.

Perhaps when and if you attain the right to be addressed as Companion, you may begin to understand.

Ruff Daddy is from Knightswood from a big bluenose family, he lived in the Lincoln avenue flats, now known as Taliban Towers, I used to walk along South Street with his faither, who was security in Yarrows. I would have loved to see some of you, who are throwin the toys oot the pram and spittin the dummy, in the sixties when it was real rivalry, nae shoutin aff buses or across roads, grow a pair and leave a great Scotland keeper to his musings.

Johnston although no more than Murray's puppet has organised himself a lifeboat, by distancing himself from any final decision that may go pear shaped.

SDM's personal (non-MIH) fortune is nothing like £720m. Or even £500m. Nae bother boss, I'll go an staun in the corner with ma pointy hat on, http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/specials/rich_list/rich_list_2009/article6105429.ece

So, do you think it is spin....."Scotland's sixth-richest man, Sir David has amassed a personal fortune of £720m from business interests ranging from metals to commercial property." http://business.scotsman.com/davidmurray/Sir-David-Murray-set-to.5558845.jp

Ive never understood this theory and cant understand why more informed bods than me havent debunked it. The only reclaimable debt we have at Rangers is our overdraft which was £6 million last season and will stand at around £2 million at the end of this season at worst. All our other debts are long term finance or loan deals that are being met and cannot be enforced until there is a default. The only say the bank have in our purchase is their 15% shareholding in MIH which ultimately Murray can over-rule. So we come full circle back to where it was in the beginning, Murray really is the main man and calling the shots, any deal will be at his behest. Pretty much mate. I think he is feeling the pinch and the bite of MIH bankers though so he is far more likely to sell to an undesirable nowadays than he ever was. Minty has and always has held all the aces, he has done the classic act, the reality is that the debt is the banks problem Murrays personal exposure is nil, it is not in the banks interests for MIH to go tits up that is why it wont, they will be burying their own money. Not totally. The bank has its interests. They sent PricewaterhouseCoopers into MIH to have a good hard look. We don't know what the outcome of that analysis was but you don't let your bank's auditors in the door unless the bank has some ability to call the shots. The banks can call all the shots they like, but minty has his personal fortune estimated at £500 million safely ringfenced, the bank will be firing blanks and I am sure that Murray will enjoy the bank sorting out his mess at no cost to him.

Ive never understood this theory and cant understand why more informed bods than me havent debunked it. The only reclaimable debt we have at Rangers is our overdraft which was £6 million last season and will stand at around £2 million at the end of this season at worst. All our other debts are long term finance or loan deals that are being met and cannot be enforced until there is a default. The only say the bank have in our purchase is their 15% shareholding in MIH which ultimately Murray can over-rule. So we come full circle back to where it was in the beginning, Murray really is the main man and calling the shots, any deal will be at his behest. Pretty much mate. I think he is feeling the pinch and the bite of MIH bankers though so he is far more likely to sell to an undesirable nowadays than he ever was. Minty has and always has held all the aces, he has done the classic act, the reality is that the debt is the banks problem Murrays personal exposure is nil, it is not in the banks interests for MIH to go tits up that is why it wont, they will be burying their own money.

Ive never understood this theory and cant understand why more informed bods than me havent debunked it. The only reclaimable debt we have at Rangers is our overdraft which was £6 million last season and will stand at around £2 million at the end of this season at worst. All our other debts are long term finance or loan deals that are being met and cannot be enforced until there is a default. The only say the bank have in our purchase is their 15% shareholding in MIH which ultimately Murray can over-rule. So we come full circle back to where it was in the beginning, Murray really is the main man and calling the shots, any deal will be at his behest.

The appeal has to be, for him, his name associated with a big club, and, I would think he either has enought to get the development thing going, or, enough certain backers to do that. Its where the money is, and, the idea isnt new, and, no doubt Ellis has his ideas from a smiliar thing closer to his home Strangely similar to the "plans" that were announced for around Ibrox Don't see why that couldn't happen at Ibrox Because Govan is a downmarket version of downtown Kabul. As opposed to the Fort shopping centre right next to Easterhouse, Ruchazie etc etc Easterhoose is Beverly hills compared to parts o Govan, believe it live the dream, wht do you think they called it the fort.

I haven't looked at the MIH accounts for a while but, I think, this is linked to the money used to acquire RFC shares as part of the rights issue in 2004. Also, if memory serves me well, MIH has been writing down the value of its holding in RFC since then. In any event, it doesn't alter the actual value of RFC when sold but, if and when we see them, I would imagine the latest MIH accounts will have another big writedown for RFC. Cheers for that HHB, that is some bag o onions you cart about, I will kid on I know what you were sayin even if I don't. Not really. I have just been doing the job for a long time which is why I retire in three months and 16 days (early retirement btw). All it means is that MIH accepted some time ago that RFC were not worth the money they put into the club and they have already been quietly reducing that value in their accounts. When they do finally sell the club, they will do at a loss. However, I'm not sure how big that loss will be given that in previous years (again from memory), they already booked some of that loss. So just to refresh and to make sure I am reading the tea leaves correctly, A debt exists but we do not know what that debt now is until the publishing of MIH accounts, does that debt take into account interest at libor plus or minus or is it solely capital. ETA. how can DD be carried out before the parent companies accounts are published, which will have an effect on valuations and liabilities ?

The appeal has to be, for him, his name associated with a big club, and, I would think he either has enought to get the development thing going, or, enough certain backers to do that. Its where the money is, and, the idea isnt new, and, no doubt Ellis has his ideas from a smiliar thing closer to his home Strangely similar to the "plans" that were announced for around Ibrox Don't see why that couldn't happen at Ibrox Because Govan is a downmarket version of downtown Kabul.

I haven't looked at the MIH accounts for a while but, I think, this is linked to the money used to acquire RFC shares as part of the rights issue in 2004. Also, if memory serves me well, MIH has been writing down the value of its holding in RFC since then. In any event, it doesn't alter the actual value of RFC when sold but, if and when we see them, I would imagine the latest MIH accounts will have another big writedown for RFC. Cheers for that HHB, that is some bag o onions you cart about, I will kid on I know what you were sayin even if I don't.

Whatever next, Minty has gone from being given a pound for his "worthless" shares and told to sling his hook to gettin £33 million for his worthless bag, the bank and Muir working in unison to destroy us, skint administration on the way to the third division Duffy, Dave King, Park the only one missing is JR, he will probably be along later, what a crock. Minty will still be calling the shots this time next year.

penalties yesterday, done fuck all else all game, gave up to easily and looked like the boyd of old, maybe contract talks havent went his way recently or whatever cant remember the hibs game ball hit his arse did it not against st mirren, also add he was missing (along with the rest of the team i'll admit) that night as well against celtic he once again failed to make an impact up front, boyd was against possibly the most inexperienced defence celtic have put out for an old firm game in many a season, he had one chance that he missed, and as for the winner, how many efforts did he want to knock the ball in from a yard out ffs, thank fuck edu was there. but the fact remians, when is boyd going to start making an impact on these celtic defenders, fuck even kenny miller has threw a couple of them about the place (loovens at the start of the season), when will boyd actually use his physique against them like darcheville and cousin have done recently, fact is, since returning from the injury boyd has once again become the passenger he was at times last year, when everything has to be on a plate for him, and right now we need EVERYCUNT to work their socks off Top goalscorer bar none, see if you can find another 9 passengers the same, we would be unbeatable. As for big Laffs nae heart.

I do hope your fiscal ability is somewhat better than your geographical and imperial measurement skills, but I doubt it, 15,000 miles indeed. ETA as long as Braehead is a few miles up the road, there will be no shopping malls in Govan.

It's been explained to you on a previous thread for whatever reason you have chosen not to believe that. You would also be better looking at the latest books not books from 2004 if you want the current picture. Is that a fact now, who explained it, you really do believe MIH is going to be allowed to write of £52,958,000 used to underwrite a share issue, you are further into SDM than I thought, if you don't mind I will take a second opinion from HHB, the man knows his onions.

Thanks for that HHB, you appear to know your way around a set of books, so could you perhaps decipher this from MIH accounts 2004 in terms that we less erudite in financial terms can understand. Amounts falling due after more than one year: Loan notes 52,958 52,958 - - Other debtors 224 289 - - Prepayments and accrued income - 10 - - Deferred tax asset (note 16) ––1–,–4–4–3– –––1–,9–4–5– ––––––––- ––––––––- –5–4–,–6–2–5– ––5–5–,2–0–2– ––––––––- ––––––––- 1–2–9–,–9–7–3– –1–1–6–,5–6–0– ––1–0–,–1–5–4– –––––8–4–7– The loan notes were issued by Murray Sports Limited, a related party by virtue of common control. The loan notes are due for payment in the event of a sale of all or substantially all of the shares, assets or businesses of RFC Investment Holdings Limited and/or subsidiaries. Interest is payable at commercial rates, only in the event that Murray Sports Limited has sufficient accumulated distributable profits. In the year to 31 January 2003 a provision against the loan notes of £7,645,000 was made. £52,958,000 appears to be a recurring figure.

For those of you who read the article (see post #6 ... I also posted this on Follow Follow) ............ The article is the biggest load of pish I have had the misfortune to have read. It is ill-informed and demonstrates no understanding whatsoever as to how a due diligence is performed. If they cannot even get the basics right then the entire article is without merit IMHO and should be filed under B.I.N. 1. The books will be on a computer system and a) no business in the world is going to download every transaction onto a 3rd party computer especially if it is getting taken to some banana republic, b) it probably isn't practical or feasible to load the accounts onto some laptop from whatever system RFC uses (ever heard of compatibility) and 3) generally, as you go through the accounts there will be a load of questions and need for clarification and you don't do that in Zanzibar when the guys who can answer the questions are at Ibrox. 2. You need professionals to do a proper due diligence. Ellis might be good at property dealings but no-one has claimed that he is an accounting and auditing expert. Due diligence is a specialised service that your average accountant or auditor does not generally do. That is why the likes of PwC or E&Y have dedicated departments doing it. 3. This David Gilmour guy is only 5 years out of University and isn't even qualified yet (ACCA). No way is he an expert and no way is he fronting a £33 million deal. More likely he is the talking head put up to give the senior guys some peace (makes a nice change from doing the photo-copying I daresay). Maybe with 10 years more practice experience he could be called an expert. 4. And ... byraway ... I do know what I am talking about. 5. Delete which applies ..... 1) the journalist is a moron 2) the journalist thinks his/her readers are morons 3) the journalist is a moron and thinks that his/her readers are morons Good heads up m8 clarity always helps. In your considered opinion has this due diligence begun or has it even been agreed ?

Is there anyone out there who actually believes Murray put in more than his myriad of companies took out of Ibrox ???