stewart1969

Dave King-Good Guy.

All The Banks-Wanks....HMRC-Wanks...SFA-Wanks....SPL-Wanks....Sir David Murray-Good Guy...Craig Whyte-Wank....Duff&Phelps-Wanks...Charles Green-Wank...Imran Ahmed-Wank...Laxey's-Wanks...Blue Pitch-Wanks..Margherita-Wanks.....Walter-Good Guy...Bomber-Good Guy....Coisty-Good Guy.....Brian Stockbridge-Wank...Jack Irvine-Wank.....Spiers-Wank....English-Wank....Jackson-Good Guy............Graham Wallace-Good Guy. Discuss.

Ach I know it just annoyed me seeing him front and centre.....I love the tradition and long may it continue....my mate over here in China is a Stoke fan and when I showed him and told him what it was all about he was very impressed ....in fact I think he now has another team to keep an eye on. WATP

Ach I know it just annoyed me seeing him front and centre.....I love the tradition and long may it continue....my mate over here in China is a Stoke fan and when I showed him and told him what it was all about he was very impressed ....in fact I think he now has another team to keep an eye on. WATP

Was Stockbridge filming when the chairman drank?

1st Jan........Are you the one who referred to Ally using the term "coffin carrier"?

Uh huh.

A Rangers fan has a friend who is a Celtic fan.......this is shocking. FPMSL

Is there a computer game that we can all play to pretend we know anything about football management? FPMSL

lol...aye that's what we've done...

You should probably stick to it. Don't get me wrong...playing pretend in cyber world is something millions do but at the end of the day it's not even on a par with mindless pub talk.

What do you do for a living now?

I agree with that which is why everyone taking the time to view this thread should focus on what Mr Stockbridge says(By watching the link..again if need be) and then discerning whether or not it contributes to whether he should, or should not , retain his position. Far to easy to get sidetracked by focusing on our wee chat on the the subject matter. Watch,listen,scrutinise.......then vote(If you can)

Your point about people ignoring it because it is titled "Brian Stockbridge" might be valid so fair enough.I say might because I don't agree people will but point taken. I believe he is deliberately being misleading 100%.I was careful not to say he was lying.Implying it is safer for all sorts of reasons. I am not grasping at straws. I just think people should read threads like this and make their own minds up. I took the tone of your response to mean your allegiance lay with Mr Stockbridge. Apologies if I called that wrong. We should all be reading and listening to every piece of written and audio press we can get our hands on. The more knowledge we have the better placed we will be to decide. Hopefully people will keep reading and commenting on this thread and others so as to help them make their minds up.

It's neither clumsy or unsubtle.Subject title is "Brian Stockbridge" because it is he who is the subject in question regarding my original post. I get that you don't like Mr Stockbridge's comments being questioned as to their accuracy but it's best to leave your allegiance out as much as possible. I agree that isn't easy and my preference would clearly be he leaves.....so that where my allegiance takes me. We need to question things ahead of the AGM. Many things. What did he actually say?Here watch.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF35VvcBllY What I am seeking a broader clarification(i.e what does everyone else think? on is what he says between approx 6.25mins and 6.57 mins. "The other element though,we spent a lot of money,millions of pounds on,you know,defending the club.we have defended against people who want to sue the club,we have defended it against,ummm,you know,stripping of titles.we have defended it against threatened general meetings,actual general meetings,more general meetings and all of these things cost money and it increases the professional fees" Now make your own mind up. There are other claims in this interview which can also be questioned but as you yourself pointed out on another thread.....there are probably a lot of other threads on this already. I don't see enough. We should all have as many questions made public as possible so that as many of us as possible get to make our minds up. That is surely fair enough and people are free to then back whichever individuals they trust. Assuming we trust anyone(current board or requisitioners)...........very difficult these days.

It seems simple enough. Either what Mr Stockbridge said was true or it was false. Surely establishing the facts ahead of the AGM will help shareholders decide which box they tick.

Mr Stockbridge said in his statement on the accounts that x amount of pounds in expenses (listed in the accounts under professional fees) had been spent fighting for things like the title stripping case as well as the threat of EGMs. Can someone clarify if the RFFF paid for the title stripping fight and whether or not the threat of EGMs came post end date of accounts?

Bears, I am based in Hong Kong and have been sending RTV emails for about 2 months as I believe they are overcharging me given I appear to have 2 subscriptions running at the same time. They are refusing to even reply. If others are not receiving a reply I think we can assume this is their new policy. Disgusting.

Hello Hello from Hong Kong, It cannot be comfortable for Chris Graham having to debate issues with people who choose, for whatever reason, to remain anonymous. Surely the majority would agree. I am happy for people to know who I am. I have not always agreed with Chris.I have never met him. I've exchanged emails with him but I rarely if ever post on here as I don't understand the concept of debating something with a faceless,nameless person or persons. Like many fans,players,staff,management etc I do read RM on a daily basis to keep in touch with developments. I don't use FF. But should Forums like this not offer a wee bit more protection for lads who are out there in the open? Should Moderators do more for those who are not anonymous? Why not PM others and be up front? It's hidden agendas that have caused most of the trouble we are in. A bit more transparency is needed from top to bottom.

All Ally McCoist wants is details on who owns Rangers. If Ally gets the written assurances he has asked for he will then call on fans to buy season tickets. Charles Green can end John Brown's investigation by taking him to court for all the serious allegations made. He will not be doing any such thing though. Charles Green has until the end of the month to produce the 20 million promised. I believe he guaranteed 30 million but that changed once we knew SPL was not an option. I believe he then promised 20 million by the end of the month. Hopefully this will not be a bank loan in the name of Rangers. The 11 million alleged to have been invested is hopefully not a bank loan in the name of our club either. John Brown hosted a meeting on Sunday for supporters clubs and groups. A huge number of ex players were in attendance and an even bigger number also submitted their support in writing and apologies for not making the meeting. John Brown gave a short presentation and this covered his proposals as well as the current board situation and their takeover. Since the the formation of Newco Sevco and the £5.5 buyout,Rangers have lost a huge sum of money as a result of players leaving the club as well as losing the SPL place and the SFA license. All youth players and their parents are worried sick about their future now that the players have become free agents with no clarification of their contract situation. Were redundancies outlined to staff on Monday night?Before investment of the 20 million? At the recent RFFF Ally McCoist could not ask all fans to buy season tickets as the doesnt fully trust the new board yet. With regards to Bomber's plans, he will set up an independant bank account this week for investors to pay into. The plan is for wealthy people and ex players to contribute £40k each to reach £10m to buy out Charles Green's consortium. Fans would be asked to pay a yearly £100 membership after full details of Bomber's investors were produced. Season tickets sales of around £12m to £14m as well as sponsorship and commercial deals would top up the investment.None of this would happen until full disclosure. The essential aim of the project is to remove Charles Green and Craig Whyte and protect the assets and build the club back up again. Charles Green will own 10% of Rangers after a successful stock market floatation with AIM. John Brown is 100% certain that Craig Whyte is pulling the strings behind Charles Green and that they are in it together and anyone who supports "Green" is being disloyal to the Club. Douglas Park and Jim McColl were offered 50% of the new company for £6m and then when they asked for documentation proof, they were never supplied with this. Why? John is 100% certain that Craig Whyte is detailed in a signed letter with the first charge over the assets. Charles Green can take John Brown to court over allegations of Whyte's role. John asked Charles Green after the recent RFFF meeting to see the documents and Charles Green agreed to this. John has since left 18 messages for Malclom Murray to arrange the meeting and this has not yet happened. Anyone who thinks the documents brought to the meeting are enough evidence is deluded. John wants the names behind the names behind the names of any front company listed.As does Ally McCoist. John is unsure of the cost to buy the club from Charles Green as they have not yet got round the table to discuss fees. It is not known if their is a price to be met as well as the undertaking to meet Craig Whyte's demands thus ensuring he comes out of it safe and sound from any debt collectors chasing undisclosed agreements with for example Ticketus. Any potential deal will have to take into account the Ticketus debt and that this may be repaid over 10-20 years. Should any new buyer not take this debt of over 20 million on then no deal. There are 1 or 2 possible bids going in for the club this week. John Brown is not the only one trying to save the club. When John did meet Malcolm Murray recently, MM was not aware of a bid of £8.7m made to Charles Green the previous day. Going forward, John would offer Ally McCoist a 5 year contract, pay back all of the small creditors of the oldco and give back the debentures to the former owners of these. His structure of the new set up would make sure that they ring fenced the major assets - Training ground, stadium and car park.

That is a fact. Tell us all about Ticketus Charlie. Is that where your deal with Craig Whyte is tied up? Celtic's greatest ever servant? Not sure if it's Craig Whyte or Charles Green. Don't ever stop digging Bomber. Ever. Faceless and nameless cowards on the internet won't ever have a strong enough backbone to face the truth...nor to face you.

Bomber will be outlining his plan and answering the many questions fans have this weekend. The meeting on Sunday 15th July, previously scheduled at Dakota Eurocentral @2pm is now changed to The Thistle Hotel, Glasgow@ 2pm. Only 2 representitives from each supporters club will be permitted entry. The end game is fast approaching.

Malcolm Murray and Charles Green are on record as saying there is no link between the club,them and Craig Whyte. Can we just find out exactly, and once and for all, whose name is on the "1st Charge" What we are looking for is to establish who owns Ibrox stadium,the Albion car park and Murray park. Whose name is on what is known as "The 1st standard security" ( the 1st charge ) because it is they who hold the ownership of the assets of our treasured Rangers. The Bank of Scotland held the 1st charge then David Murray. It was passed over to Craig Whyte who subsequently borrowed £26m from Ticketus and paid off the Lloyds Bank debt of £18m. So Craig Whyte is the owner of the assets...i.e. Ibrox stadium,The Albion car park and Murray park? Surely not. Only one way to prove it. Is Charles Green saying he has the title deeds but not the 1st charge?

The chairman of the SPL clubs insisted on doing what their fans wanted. They declared sporting integrity must be paramount and upheld. Celtic made this crystal clear when they eventually went public. Stewart Regan and Neil Doncaster are disgustingly exerting pressure on the SFL to force us into Division 1. The SPL Chairmen,their fans, Stewart Regan and Neil Doncaster want to control the integrity and reduce their financial loss whilst hurting us the most. The minutes from the last SFL meeting make for a disgusting read and the sooner they go public the better.Perhaps they have and I have not seen their release. Regan and Doncaster must surely not be allowed to continue in their respective roles. Can we ALL agree that everything possible must be done to ensure we do NOT go into Division 1? Ally has called for us to be listened to. Ally has said he is 100% behind us. I believe nothing in recent times has united the Rangers family more than this.

JOHN BROWN, who is leading a fans’ buy out of Rangers, has blasted Charles Green for surrendering to Celtic. Brown, who was part of the Ibrox nine-in-a-row era, says he hopes that he will soon be able to reveal his blueprint for Rangers supporters to oust Charles Green. He said: “Right now I am putting in place the best legal team we can get so that we can do this is in a proper corporate way, with supporters knowing that when they put money in to buy themselves a share in Rangers, their cash is safe.” But Brown is furious about news that Green has agreed to what he believes Celtic chief executive, Peter Lawwell, wanted in the first place. Brown said: “Green has surrendered. I think Peter Lawwell had a dream about keeping Rangers in the SPL, but only if he could make sure they would never have any chance of winning the title, by giving them a points deduction for the next few seasons. “That keeps the value of the SPL for Celtic and means they can maintain a big budget for players, so they can not only win the SPL, but also have a really good chance of getting into the Champions League groups for the next four years. “That would bring Celtic in almost £100M and all the while Rangers would have to pay SPL wages while being banned from Europe for the next three years and also having no chance of winning the title. “By also surrendering and agreeing to the SFA transfer embargo, Green will leave Rangers in with no players and Ally McCoist will actually face a fight to avoid relegation.” But Brown insists that if his scheme for supporters to buy out Green and the faceless men who own Rangers, succeeds, then the right men will be in place inside Ibrox to fight Peter Lawwell, Celtic, the SPL and the SFA. Brown added: “My plan will put Rangers men in charge of Rangers. The type of people who will not surrender to Peter Lawwell and Celtic the way Green has surrendered to them.” Former Rangers vice chairman, Donald Findlay QC, is still waiting for a rescheduled date to meet current chairman Malcolm Murray in order that he can study the paperwork which shows just who it is who actually owns Rangers and what names are on the title deeds of Ibrox Stadium, the Auchenhowie training complex and the Albion car park. Murray pulled out of a meeting which had been set up by Brown and scheduled for early on Monday morning