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175 fans x £373 = £65275. That's under £5000 each from Walter and the 13 players on show last night. Surely, as a peace offering, the travelling fans should at least be offered it. I could not agree more.

Or in July, when they had a meeting that was mentioned in the papers, the RST website and FF. But don't let the facts spoil your story David Edgar said on RR The RST havent had contact from SDM in over a year. Just going by what the man said on real radio. So i have no story No he didn't!

Can anyone? He said 'the result last night is entirely down to Walter'. I admit Davie is a mate of mine, but I can't see how that statement can be seen as defending Walter! I'm talking about Jim Templeton who was on Superscoreboard here! Apologies mate!

Or in July, when they had a meeting that was mentioned in the papers, the RST website and FF. But don't let the facts spoil your story

Can anyone? He said 'the result last night is entirely down to Walter'. I admit Davie is a mate of mine, but I can't see how that statement can be seen as defending Walter!

One of the 7 told me that he returned from holiday to see the statement and was embarrassed by it. It was, apparently, even more self-pitying and verbose and he insisted they cut it. He regrets the timing and putting his name to it (he also told me that it was driven by one particular member of the 7.) Anyway, it's all over now. The RST still function and no-one is being forced to do things they are uncomfortable with.

Jiminez: FF is published by a man who stood for election for the Scottish Unionist party. Not, to my knowledge, a hotbed of left wing radical political thought. I'm not certain of the relevance of you or your friend (or indeed his oriental orientation) reading FF. The stated goals of the RST are healthy - enough for me to have signed up. But, the last few months have really booted the arse of it's credibility, resulted some truly childish mud-slinging and I struggle to see how it's going to improve with a strong FF influence. Maybe I'll be proven wrong - as you said above in this thread: we'll see. One of his best friends is Stepehn Smith, a Trade Union Official who has a Ché Guevara tatoo for goodness sake! Admin SM is more left-wing than Lenin. MD has his politics, but he doesn't judge people by theirs. You might care to do the same.

You think he's demonised. I don't. No fanciful inventions of logical fallacy required. And I didn't produce an example of a comment - I made the comment. He's been labeled a bigot and a muppet on here. If that isn't demonization I really don't know what is. You have touched on his politics previously as a way to attack the Trust. When asked for evidence on this bigotry I have received hee haw in the way of a reply. Funny that! There are a select few on here happy to partake in an assassination campaign of someone who is only doing what he feels is best for the club. It's pathetic MD isn't perfect, nowhere near, but at least he's got off his arse and done something which he believes will help his club, more than the internet warriors who smugly sit and pass judgement behind a cloak of anonymity. It's easy to moan and then do f*ck all. And for the record, I think his admin are cocksockets. Been banned many a time for very little. But that has nothing to do with the RST.

I think that's true, but there have always been a few posters who are fanatically anti RST for whatever reason (mental illness in one case judging from his PMs). Anti RST feeling is currently being enmeshed with the anti Mark Dingwall/ FF feeling which has also been around for a while among a few posters. And what's emerging is a picture where the big bad bigots have chucked the nice guys out of the Trust. Can I make my own feelings clear 1. I am now an ex Trust Member 2. I think we should drop references to FF/RST, it is a huge site and we cannot lump every poster on FF, every Rangers supporter, into this militant camp reference. Let me say I like FF, I read it most days, I love the content and I am fearful that a lot of people see it as an FF/Media split, this would be wrong as what someone else has said, we are all Rangers supporters. 3. Where I do have worries is that the very dictatorial line followed by the FF Administrators where anyone not toeing the party line has his post terminated and then his account suspended, while their well known posters are allowed to say what they like, condemn people in the most abusive terms, are allowed to carry on regardless. 4. This site is run by Mark Dingwall, do not know the man personally, but have had dealings with him on a number of issues through the years, and I am perturbed that a man that runs his website in this way will have a prominent position in the Rangers Trust, that is why I am leaving the Trust, as I feel that the infiltration of the Trust by his followers will be unstoppable, and has probably started, judging by reports. 5. A Trust run in this manner will result in it being marginalised and its influence reduced. As Mark has been on the board since the RST's inception, therefore having been on it longer than all but 2 of the 7 who resigned, wouldn't this have happened before now? You are entitled to your opinion, but I have to say apart from a 'feeling' you have no evidence for it. And you make the classic mistake of confusing the RST with FF. Mark Dingwall may well like to run the RST, he may well like to run it like FF - but he doesn't so he can't. I really can't believe how much some over-rate the influence of Dingwall - he wishes he has this power!

Thomson. Agree about Cuellar and I'm never keen on a goalie as Captain.

A rational person would always hear out the two sides to the story and come to a conclusion. Although it is interesting from a lot of members' point of view to see such vocal opinions, you can probably understand it will get stressful for the main parties who are being questioned and criticised. Ahh politics. Great, innit? :beer2: Good night all.

Known Mark for many years and not blind to his flaws. But this image which has been portrayed of him is untrue. And if any Rangers Fan had a hand in the Daily Record character assassination of him, then they should be deeply ashamed of themselves.

After 12 posts, you've made your mind up on the politics and manner of this entire forum? Rather ignorant, maybe you should try and understand andypendek's post, and draw a parallel from it? I think there has been ignorance on abundance on this thread. Sadly a lot of it wilful. And sadly, the most ignorant post of the lot? We have a winner! Congratulations What a big mature admin you are! You must be awful big and clever! Compare your post with that of the previous admin. Simply sad.

What future plans? The militant direction that none of the Board who were there on Sunday seemed to know about? This is my problem. The official line form the RST Board on Sunday was that there has been no shift except they have to improve their communications. But everyone on here seems to have taken at face value everything those who have left have said. As John Lydon sang - 'two sides to every story.' Frankie by his own admission didn't attend the now infamous 'Special Purposes' committee and didn't attend the SGM. Hardly the best placed to comment on things, no? cooperonthewing has asked several pertinent questions, all of which have been ignored. My view on reading this thread is that the split suits everybody.

We're certainly not anti-trust. Perhaps a fair few members on here are skeptical of the RST at this moment, but as a website we certainly are not, or have any intention to ever be, anti-RST. I'm happy to let discussion pass on the matter, provided it doesn't get personal, and let those that read it make up their own minds. Nobody from the new board has ever been in contact with us, even before this all kicked off. If in future the RST wanted to promote things on here, we'd happily oblige. I will pass that on to them. It's an attitude which does you credit.