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Most of that is a matter of opinion.
IMO we DID need those strikers, as JCD has major injury problems, Cousin has one hell of an attitude problem, as I said above Smith sees Naismith as a winger, so that leaves the squad from last season with Boyd and Novo, is that strong enough to you? It sure as hell aint to me.
We needed to strengthen up front but other areas needed it greater. One in each area(defense/middle/front) would have been a wiser gamble prior to Euro deadline
McCulloch has been decent for us, he was never going to be a terrific signing, and I didn't totally agree with his signing.
Loads of matches but start at Falkirk.The third point I have no idea which matches you are on about here and I can't remember this happening so I can't comment on.
Nope. I would never boo a Gers player. Misser is on borrowed time. The last thing the poor guy needs is Smith playing him out of position for goodness sake. As for that position, if we needed somebody to play it better than Miller, i would suggest Fleck who done well pre season, Aaron who after good reviews against Killie reserves could have given us 60 minutes with Beasley taking over on 30. Or how about Novo playing wide with Misser up front.... Take your pickYou are one of those that boo Kenny Miller yes? On saturday who would you have played on the left? Lafferty and McCulloch was injured, and Beasley is just back from an injury. Maybe this is why we are allegedly still being linked to Bresciano?
Exactly. This is why he also lost the SPL last year when he had squad players like Gow, Furman and Fleck who could have offered us something different instead of sticking to same usual turgid rigid pissThis one again complete matter of opinion, IMO he relied on the players that got him 9 in a row, which ultimately proved a season to far for some.
We have done it at every corner since he came back. Just watch. 11 men in the box, big Carlos clears it and we end up defending it again because we dont have anyone outside the box to put pressure on the other team or God Forbid, start an attack. PS - we lost a number of goals due to this "tactic" last season.This also I can't recall specifically, and this may well have been a case of the teams limitations last season, as we haven't played ICT this season and we se aint going to play Gretna I can't pass comment on that either.
His good work was wasted by his blind spots. The same blind spots we have seen time and time again. Its clear to me he cant changeI put Walter in the category of a good boss as last season and every other one I can recall him in he has played his team to their strengths, that didn't do too badly last season, especially seeing as though that was meant to be a rebuilding season, with the sole aim to mount a challenge for the league title the club exceeded those aims and are now paying for it. I hope beyond all hope he proves me wrong
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We go from one extreme to the other, and when we do, it's too late. It's like there is no plan in place and when a bad result happens and we start to show our discontent, they act/panic.
I think we need a CB, RB and RM/W in that order. We could also do with a LB as Smith is still injured but I suppose our manager is happy with Whittaker and Broadfoot if Papac picks up an injury.
Between now and next summer we should get rid of the shite/past it/useless players/out of contract....Broadfoot, Graeme Smith, Hemdani, Weir, Webster, Dailly, Cousin, McCulloch, Adam, Darcheville....
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Lets put it this way, the owner of the company I work for would not tell me how to do my job, as he is not qualified to. A good boss knows what his strengths is, and Murray's is not putting a Football team on the pitch.
But from your reply I can see I won't make you see this, as you seem to be one of these people that seem determined to force Walter Smith out of the club a matter of months after he took us to a UEFA cup final, and whats his crime actually adding depth to the squad, granted the reinforcements came too late but this is NOT Walter Smith's fault, if blame must be laid at someone within the club for that it should be Martin Bain, afterall it is he who signs the players that Walter identifies.
Finally, the transfer window is not shut and I would not be at all surprised to see several people leaving and one or two coming in.
Im not sure if you realise youve just back-flipped here.
Martin Bain was NOT the one who spent £6 million of 3 strikers when everyone could see we needed to strengthen elsewhere.
Bain was NOT the one who bought McCulloch for over £2 million.
Bain was NOT the one who played with 5 defenders, 1 midfielder and 4 strikers in matches
He also didnt pick Misser to play on the left on Saturday or leave Boyd on the park when he had done nothing.
Bain didnt cost us 10 in a row using similar tactics either
Bain doesnt decide to put 11 men in the box when we play Gretna or Inverness Caley Thistle
You say a GOOD BOSS knows his strengths.......so how you can put Smith in that category with the dross he has put us through is beyond me
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none of the above, what a poor selection of potential choices. very unambitious more like the sort of list the dims would be looking at.
Well it was only hypothetical but we could always go for the best young manager in Europe. He will be in our wage range.
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Is fleck not a midfielder???
Theres a number of players who are versatile but thats also part of my point about the squad in general.....
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As a Murray supporter, I fully agree with what you say in that he should defo being having a word. By the looks of it he may have had a word about the midfield and Smith has went from one extreme to another.
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Allan McGregor (G)
Graeme Smith (G)
Neil Alexander (G)
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David Weir (D)
Sasa Papac (D)
Kirk Broadfoot (D)
Christian Dailly (D)
Madjid Bougherra (D)
Steven Smith (D)
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Pedro Mendes (M)
Aaron (M)
Maurice Edu (M)
Steven Davis (M)
Barry Ferguson (M)
Kevin Thomson (M)
DaMarcus Beasley (M)
Steven Whittaker (M)
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Kris Boyd (F)
Nacho Novo (F)
Steven Naismith (F)
Kenny Miller (F)
Kyle Lafferty (F)
Andrius Velicka (F)
John Fleck (F)
Surely someone has a duty at Ibrox to tell Smith to stop chasing Bresciano right now. Other than Stevie Smith, whom i fear we wont see back to his best truth be told, we dont have a 100% full back in our "first team squad" and to be honest the centre half position is a necessity as Weir has to go(bit harsh....should only be used as back up)
Does anyone else get the feeling our management team dont plan very well. In fact, plan at all.
Squad positional cover - too many forwards, no full backs and OAP centre half's
Team Selection - McCulloch/Adam/Misser
Player positioning once selected - all of the above and where he ends up playing them just to give them a game
Free kicks for us - Utter dreadful
Defending corners - 11 men in the box meaning everytime we clear the ball, we end up defending it for a 2nd time
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He created Azure under his own business arm with the intention of branching out to other teams. When you start a new business you have loads of costs. If he had put the shares in Gers name then produced the £3 million losses that he did, you would be arguing HE shouldnt have put Rangers in that position. Azure was another loss making business. Out-sourcing made Rangers more money and continues to do so.you are still missing the point. You argue that outsourcing had positive benefits for RFC. My argument is that as the Chairman of RFC if he truly felt this was the way to go, why did he take a personal shareholding in Azure and not have RFC hold it? Ignore the actual figures as they were unknown at the time, just answer that question.
It was a part of the business that was not making a lot of money so he changed it and since then we have consistently made £1 million+. There is no point in having an asset that loses you money. Come to think of it, what asset did he sell ? People, food stock and some equipment ?The only viable alternative to RFC holding the shareholding was if he outsourced to an established professional catering company, one that he had no ties with whatsoever on the basis that it would mean a better bottom line for RFC everyone would happily accept it. The reason bears like myself get annoyed over things like this is that something that was owned by RFC was the next day owned by Murray. If is looks like asset-stripping and smells like asset-stripping......
But it still costs less for them to answer the calls than it costs to run the operation yourselfRe Response Handling. It is similar to the Azure deal. RFC might be only 1% of Response's work now, but we were the contract that got them started. Response handling didnt just magically appear with huge international contracts from nothing. It had to prove itself first and yet again RFC provide Murray with the tools to do it. It is now a hugely successful Company thanks to DM's guinea pig, RFC. I believe running a football club is not that big that we need a call centre to handle our calls. This dial 1 for this and 2 for that is utter nonsense. just give the direct dial numbers to hospitality, ticketing etc and save all the money we pay to the call centre. Any bear will tell you the current system makes contacting the ticket office a day off work event.
The huge price he paid MIM falls into the same Net £0 policy i explained above. There is absolutely nothing for him to gain by over-charging. The complications of building on top of a listed building played a huge part in the overall cost.If you still cannot see any errors in his ways, then fine. Personally, it took a lot for me to turn against him, and it was only when our debt was getting out of order that some fans started searching for the reasons why, and these dodgy deals started being uncovered. And we have not mentioned the huge price we paid MIM for the club deck. Some clubs were building stadiums for similar amounts. The ego trip of the run-up to the Flo signing. He way he walked away when we had some serious work to do to reduce debt. Before we were happy to trust him because he had done well in the first 10 years and the scum were miles behind us. He had secured outside investors at £20M a pop on more than one occassion, and he had done a tremendous deal with NTL that got us £15M for virtually nothing, on future media rights that never came about (a deal the scum refused incidentally!).
I would only argue its the one thats lost him the most money because thats what football clubs do. I am ok with him handing over the reigns and i trust him to put us in safe hands onlySo dont think of me as some Murray hater that has never liked him, or doesnt rate him. I for one still believe he could be the man to turn things around. But I need to see the 1988-1998 Murray, not the 1998-2008 version. That last statement is irrelevant now anyway as he has openly declared he has had enough and that he should have walked away after 10 years. Clearly his passion and desire has gone into other ventures in his life and I wish him well with those, truly I do. I only care about one of his investments, however, and although it is the one he will be remembered for way above all others, it is the one he probably has made the most mistakes in.
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in the last 2 months i have been in london ,liverpool ,and surprise manchester and no tops anywhere and the girl at footie replica section s in all 3 cities have said they havent had a single rangers top since deal with jjb deal started.Our accontants will tell us this mate ,im not saying its not true but anything murray does ,he doesnt want to be proved wrong . the jjb deal doesnt even work £44.99 for adult jersey in there and £40 in sports soccer ,how does that happen when murray explains its exclusive to jjb .celtic also get the same floorspace as us in most stores ,which returns me to say minty didnt get the the guarentee he had hoped for. He sold our soul to the devils mate.
"Minty didnt get the guarantee he had hoped for"
The £18 million up front represents £1.8 million per year for somethng we made £1.9 million for the previous year. ITs a licensced contract with JJB. The first time they miss the £3 million annual payment, Murray pulls out and Rangers would keep the £18 million upfront payment. Why do you think people bother signing contracts ???
Can you name the exact JJB stores cause i think you are talking rubbish about them not having Rangers tops unless..............it was pre the new launch as you could hardly buy a Gers top in Scotland due to May 14th
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Ive heard from guy in rangers marketing that rangers will wear nike jerseys again from next summer .It does make sense given that nike already own umbro , they will sell more jerseys worldwide,and with guys like edu ,beasley representing RFC in america . the jjb deal needs ripped up and get the RFC shops back . some jjb shops in england dont even sell the rangers strips so for murray to say its better this way was shite. any views.
Im surprised that a guy in Rangers marketting has this information given that it would be JJB marketting who would be looking at it..... If it does change to Nike then the deal with JJB wont prevent it being sold in Nike shops in America. Can you tell me which JJB shops in England dont sell the Gers tops. And finally our accounts will tell you we made £1.9 million profit from the shops the year prior to the JJB deal. The JJB deal guaranteed £4.8 million per annum without having to hit any sales figures or worry about costs or outdated stock
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Right..... who voted O'Neill :angry2:
who made MON an option?
Youve always gotta have a comedy shite option in surely
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Right..... who voted O'Neill :angry2:
who made MON an option?
Youve always gotta have a comedy shite option in surely
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Right..... who voted O'Neill :angry2:
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If Smith walked out today and you were given the above 6 candidates ONLY, which of them would you bank on delivering the SPL title back to its home this season. All things considered be it past performance, money spent, anything really...
My vote is The Little General. Football was amazing and although he went off the rails at the end, he has got back his mojo(not that one)
PS - may need to edit as ive never done a poll before
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Maybe you should look up the meaning of the word Xenophobic
Why dont you enlighten me ?
http://dictionary.reference.com/
xenophobia [(zen-uh-foh-bee-uh, zee-nuh-foh-bee-uh)]
An unreasonable fear, distrust, or hatred of strangers, foreigners, or anything perceived as foreign or different.
again.Clearly by that definition the song is not xenophobic.
I beg to differ
I would say that telling foreigners or people you perceive as foreigners to fukc off back to their homeland is xenophobic
Is it not the people that we're signing AT that percieve themselves (wrongly) as foreigners?
Last time i checked Noel Hunt and Robbie Keane were born in Ireland Papa.
anyways, we are just going to go round in circles on this one mate. 20 years ago i would have sung it without even thinking about it. We live in a different world now and my only hope is that one day we can all just stand and point our fingers at the Tims without fear of reprisal.
I know i will never see my wish.
Nothing more i can say on this guys so i will bow out on the topic and let it carry on without me.
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Maybe you should look up the meaning of the word Xenophobic
Why dont you enlighten me ?
http://dictionary.reference.com/
xenophobia [(zen-uh-foh-bee-uh, zee-nuh-foh-bee-uh)]
An unreasonable fear, distrust, or hatred of strangers, foreigners, or anything perceived as foreign or different.
again.Clearly by that definition the song is not xenophobic.
I beg to differ
I would say that telling foreigners or people you perceive as foreigners to fukc off back to their homeland is xenophobic
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Maybe you should look up the meaning of the word Xenophobic
Why dont you enlighten me ?
http://dictionary.reference.com/
xenophobia [(zen-uh-foh-bee-uh, zee-nuh-foh-bee-uh)]
An unreasonable fear, distrust, or hatred of strangers, foreigners, or anything perceived as foreign or different.
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you cant get away from what the song actually is.
Feel free to tell us what what the song 'actually' is.....
The song 'actually' is a Politically Incorrect song which if sung in the street to a Tim, in the company of a policeman, would result in your arrest due the Politically Correct World we now live in.
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Maybe you should look up the meaning of the word Xenophobic
Why dont you enlighten me ?
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If we isolate the songs everyone is talking about here and take them out of the football grounds then im sure many will realise the outcome of such songs.
If i didnt like my neighbour who happened to be a Tim and i sang to him "Why dont you go home" you can bet your bottom dollar if done in the company of the police, i would be lifted.
If my neighbour decided to sing "Ooh Ah........." back at me then he would be lifted as well.
One song is Xenophobic and the other is illegal under the Terrorism Act. Both would result in a charge though.
So whilst i think the whole world has gone way too PC and that a lot of people misinterpret why people sing songs at the match, you cant get away from what the song actually is. Of course i go off my nut when they start all their RA business and of course it angers me that the police dont do anything. I also go off my nut when neds out in the street get away with all sorts of vandalism and abuse but it doesnt make me want to go out and do the same then point to them in mock indignation when i get pulled up for it.
Bottom line is, nothing anyone says or does on the internet will change what we do or what happens at football. I would simply prefer the bigger person tactic. Remove all the shite then really start turning the screw on them. I think this is the reason our Club Officials are frightened/scared to come out and publicly criticise, because deep down they know, they are only one song away from having the same muck chucked back at them.
For the benefit of any doubt and to make my self clear.
I aint sticking up for no Tims.
Their terrorism chants are of the lowest sort of songs i have heard.
I wish for once, we could see that the excuses we use to support the singing of our songs are the same ones the Timmy uses back the way.
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I have to imagine we are still trying to punt him due to his stinking, rotten, attitude. I hope we do
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So why was it sung and aimed at Noel Hunt and Robbie Keane ?
Perhaps because they have been seen to take part in this faux-Irishness - especially Keane? Both are well known Celtic supporters and at least one of them is pictured regularly at their games and in their pubs during said celebrations...
I'm astounded people are falling over themselves to be offended on our rival's behalves over a boring and misplaced piece of banter.
I never passed on my views....I merely asked the poster about these 2 seen as both of them are actual Paddies
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Steady on...!
Rangers fans rightly or wrongly sing the famine song in retaliation to the Plastic Paddies who attach themselves to Celtic and celebrate everything Irish - particularly republicanism, anti-Britishness and the IRA.
Now, if some faux Arab team (not Dundee Utd!) played in the SPL and celebrated 7/7 or 9/11 then perhaps your analogy with other races may have had some merit. As it stands, it doesn't.
Personally, I find the famine song boring and pointless and I think there are much better songs to sing - even in that context. However, it's not racist, it's not derogatory and it's nothing more than the kind of football rivarly song one hears all over the country on match-day.
The most important point here is that once again, the Rangers support are being singled out by the authorities for a song. When will other teams face similar persecution for much worse examples of 'horrible things'?
So why was it sung and aimed at Noel Hunt and Robbie Keane ?
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Wtf is he doing on the 4th pic, it's way too small.
He is saying
"Back in 5 guys. Just here to get it up em"
Murray poll updated
in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom
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a) No. I believe he saw it making a small profit at Rangers, thought he could get other teams on board making a small profit with each of them which would lead to a bigger profit all round and it didnt work out. But none of that matters to me. All im interested in is 1) Which of the 2 scenarios gave Rangers FC the most profit.....Inhouse or Outsourcing ? The answer is Outsourcing :ok:
b) I have 3 separate businesses. 2 of them at times crossover. I really dont see the issue of me using 1 business to help another and i wouldnt dream of using a competitor. That would be folly. Everything is at cost price and no mark up is applied. Can you please answer my question on Asset stripping with Azure. What assets were stripped exactly and what was the value of them assets ? Employees with no sell on value are not assets :ok:
c) I have provided evidence of what the Ranegrs contract means to Responce, can you pleas back up your statement that it was the biggest contract they had and the subsequent value of tha contract. Once that has been done, can you please answer me 2 questions.
1) Do you agree that answering the telephones for Rangers FC is simply a cost exercise?
2) If so, would you not agree that like many other businesses in the UK, we should use the cheapest option to answer them ?
d) Not sure what you mean with this one. To clarify my stance, Murray aims to make a profit on his entire Business Portfolio every year. If he aims to make £10 million profit for example, it matters not a jot, how that £10 million is made up. There is no point in any of his businesses over-charging another business because it simply puts his Consolidated Accounts back to Net £0. I am amazed people cant understand this or pick it up. To be clear......There is absolutely no gain on an annual basis from increasing MIM profits to the detriment of Rangers FC or indeed Vice Versa.
e) A mere steel trader
I think you are doing SIR David Murray a huge dis-service here. The man is one of the top business men in Scotland. Instead of chucking £100 million at Rangers, if he had used that money to invest in Property Abroad, he would be £300 million richer right now instead of being £50 million poorer. Im sure Rangers have opened some doors for him, not going to deny that, but not to the tune of £350 million. 