eastlothianbear

Point caller?

Priceless. So you were given the opportunity for me to run through figures and you give nada. Your silence speaks volumes and slavering like 'jacobite', and 'region' render you worthless. Now the platform is yours, what will these "fucking wanks do"? - Please timetable and provide figures. Thanks in advance.

You haven't asked a question, you just don't know when to use the questionmark. You entered the thread when I asked for ANYONE to promote the fiscal benefits of the UK union. Deflection only makes you look silly. What papers would you consider decent papers then? <----- 'Question'

bought me a lap dance once in the fantasy bar Edinburgh. Good lad. To answer comments about his tan he actually has a skin condition, and doesn't use fake tan.

Of our other results, the most striking, as the Scottish National Party prepares for its annual conference this week, is the rise in support for Scottish independence, now backed by majorities in both Scotland and the rest of the UK. Scotland should be an independent country Agree: 39% (+6 points since May 2011) Disagree: 38% (-4) In Scotland:* Agree 49% (+11) Disagree 37% (-9) Women (29%) are more likely than men (18%) to say that they don’t know if Scotland should be independent or not. Social group DE are most likely to say that they agree (44%). In other questions, Labour have made no progress on the economy, despite bad news on growth and unemployment. I trust David Cameron and George Osborne to make the right decisions about the economy Agree: 30% (-1 since August) Disagree: 49% (-1) Lifted from the Independent comdes poll 15 october 2011.

Perhaps you have ignored links to government figures, and such like. For the interests of the hard of thought, feel free to pull up ANYTHING you are not happy with and I will run through it again. Every days a school day.

Oh the irony. My post involve points of fact, your posts are used simply to bump up postal numbers.

Great this is what we are wanting. Please explain why the union has served Scotland well..

Oh you are bang right, but I don't see the improved EDU getting a start when NESS returns from injury in 2019.

Oh I have done throught the last 10 pages of the thread, what has been missing is anyone puting forward any reasons why our fortunes in the union will turn.

Indeed. Perhaps today might be the day when someone/anyone puts forward a solid argument for retaining the cold dead union. Lets start this off. Dear Bears, I believe our country will be best served by continuing in the UK....................... Come on there MUST be some/any financial benefits.

Whoooosh!

Again this is quite wrong. Scotland is a member of the E.U currently albeit one with little say! It would only become a member of the E.U with more say. However, If Scotland became independent and normal again we could vote to leave the E.U. It's that word self determination again. Personally I am in favour of a full retreat out of europe but to join in the schengen agreement. a la Norway.

Brilliant. Loved seeing him back today even if I went for a piss and missed the first 30 secs.

Wylde is a one trick pony. Knock the ball ahead and put in a cross. He NEEDS to add to his game if he is to remain a fixture in the team.

^^^^^ Doesn't understand how tax is collected.

But this isn't close to being true. The SNP state that they will continue to use the pound until the fiscal conditions would be in the countries best interests to move to the euro. This is, indeed, word for word what the UK government post on this issue. AS for tax the SNP have no control over VAT(hiked by unionist parties), income tax(hiked) Yet have control over council tax and have returned a real terms reduction. It's almost like you are clutching at straws?

I would like you to attempt to name all these issues that have made him a laughing stock.......

Sorry but there are holes in this. RE Health: Health is a devolved matter, Scotland gets its block grant and decided where to spend it. We can spend it on free prescriptions, new equipment, shiney curtains whatever the hell we want! It's utter bolloxs to suggest is further subsidised by the UK government. The bolded bit is sheer scarmongering lies. However, I suspect you don't a word of it. Scotland runs in surplus as the UK government freely admit. Scottish employment currently stands at 2.4million, and there is 29 million workers in the UK. (oops you made up the figure of 5%) http://www.hrmguide.co.uk/jobmarket/unemployment.htm Interest in your assertion that the oil and the eu are a lie? Perhaps you know something leading economists don't.

lols are you like 6?

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Did anything result of the police investigation into the singing at this match?

Not such a good post. I was hoping you would pick up the very fair question put forward by the previous poster. Instead it's more deflection rather that ACTUALLY providing a sensible case to keep the union. Answers like coz sammon a fat cunt and sandy thom shite don't are not really the type of argument that would convince me.

Good post. Regardless of whether Scotland governs itself of goes cap in hand to London there will always be problems with the issues you raise. However, what is certain is that having economic teeth and fiscal controls are neccessary implement ideas. In the areas you raise you need to consider whether you feel the unionist parties have serves Scotland well or whether the ideas of the SNP have provided greater returns. How are they going to get people drinking less? Unionist parties- educate, educate,educate. SNP- respond to calls from heathcare professionals and implement a minimum pricing on alcohol, a levy on supermarkets, with a sweetner for the publican with plans to reduce rates north of the border. How do we get hospital waiting times down? Labour- Obsessed with this to the detrement of the hospitals. Doctors forces to prioritise lists over patients needs. Disenfranchised staff. Buy everything on PFI, short term gain long term pain. SNP- Back to basics. LEt doctors do their job without bureaucratic influence. Free prescriptions, scrap car parking fee's at non PFI hospitals. How do we improve the most deprived areas of the country? Unionist parties- been in charge for years and created these schemes often called the worst in Europe. SNP- Building 1000 new council houses(labour built 6 in their last term) 35,000 new aprentiships. Xtra 1050 police on the street, with special task groups that has taken crime to a 30 year low. Now if Scotland was served well by the union, gave us a place full of opportunity, where the standard of living with proportional to our endeavour then I would have no problems supporting it. All I see is Scotland not receiving back what it provides, and being governed from Westminister by a shower that have no identity with the common man/woman(see liam fox today for example). I would like to decide whether to spend billions of pounds of Scots taxpayers money on wars the other side of the world. Whether to have nuclear weapons on the clyde........Or to spend this money on tax breaks for all, local community projects, youth facilities, sports facilities, improved rail networks. To me its a very easy choice of Self-determination.

the power or ability to make a decision for oneself without influence from outside 2. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) the right of a nation or people to determine its own form of government without influence from outside.