legalbeagle
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Haha, not going to get off to the best of starts by accusing Rangers Media members of being paranoid
I managed to register, start posting and now (I think) I am recognised by most on the site, without one single tim accusation.
Some new members just post silly things, not a good start,
No need to mention anything like you did after about 10 posts, just register and start posting, you actually brought tim aaccusations up in your own post, post good posts and people on here will like you
And it's a hell of a lot safer on here than some other message boards.
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I can't think of any other circumstance that would require TUPE.... oh hold on, hasn't someone mentioned something about a newco at some point?
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I'm sure if we'd played Tainted Love at the last OF game, it would've been considered inflammatory and riot-inducing.
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last week tbk creditor pot was 10 million with ticketus and debentures removed.
around 50p in the pound.
what it is now is unknown.
I'm glad there is someone on here who believes that.
I genuinely wish I did.
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no.
Accept it is a little disingenuous of Paul Murray to portray Bill Miller's bid as liquidation, and his as CVA, when the reality is that the minimal TBK creditor's pot all but guarantees a liquidation? I can hear the 'it is with a heavy heart that we have had no option but to do this to save the club' speech from him already.
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If there are no expected ridiculous financial sanctions (or points for that matter), then I would think that Miller's bid is going to be pretty clearly in pole position, against the lower money, drawn out, apparent structure of TBK's, therefore, it would have to be him.
I do think (and I would say the same for TBK) that we all need to get behind the winning bid, and continue to leverage the weight of our support in the best interests of the club, in whatever form.
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going off the newco idea are we?
Getting switched onto the idea are we?
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I think a lot of the criticism of TBK and Kennedy is a bit harsh. If they can save the club without going newco its good enough for me, I don't care how they go about doing it.
It's a huge 'if'. I am still really concerned that they are going to get hold of the club and then just put all the blame onto the creditors if they refuse to accept a CVA.
Simple fact is that the offers to date have included club income to go into the CVA pot, so tranfer fees, etc, and that the actual cash from TBK/BK is pretty limited. I would love it if they could either bid seriously, or just back off, this is not about winning the PR battle, it is about rescuing our club.
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Media have already ripped into him over his time at Liverpool, and even though he is the best English appointment they could get, I don't think he would be able to recover on a disappointing championships this summer, such is the english media's approach to life.
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Raman Bhardwaj @STVRaman Close
Hearts announce Ian Black will leave club at end of season.
Hopefully that'll be him out the SPL, assuming he will go to England - prevents a few nasty injuries.
This will save us a fortune on insurance premiums.
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Fair response?
If McDonalds are plummeting money in to the grass roots side of Football in Scotland then I don't have a problem with that
If it goes through any part of the SFA, I do.
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The thing that I find very frustrating with the TBK/BK position, echoed by the haters on FF, is the continual 'trust us, we know what we are doing' nonsense. Of course, keep on demanding transparency from everyone else.
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The boss of the House of Bruar got off with losing his licence after amassing 14 penalty points:
The reason? He 'd have to lay off a lot of his staff because he claimed he was one of the main suppliers of stock.
Surely Rangers could argue that if they cannot buy players then the whole of Scottish football could go down as they are one of the main revenue suppliers for Scotland-Away fans,Sky deal etc?
Worth a shot in the courts I say!
Yes, we probably can, but not for the reason you give.
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I don't have the ability to enlighten you unfortunately, as I do not know the specifics of the bid. I was just wondering how you knew the specifics.
I think that is what we all want, what gets to me is everyone has their opinion on what is happening behind closed doors, when in fact, most of us know sweet F A.
It is not the responsibility of TBK and BK to pay off Craig Whyte and David Murrays accumulated debt is it? They might be playing a shrewd business move which involves paying as little as possible up front and looking to invest once we are out of a CVA? TBK have a fair amount of financial backing as does Kennedy, I think, I am just speculating, as are you.
I haven't quoted any specifics, I have quoted the headline figures, which nobody seems to disagree with.
Yes, it is their responsibility if they buy the club, to pay off the debt, or come to an agreement.
Speculation about what happens after the bids is fair enough, but I am not speculating about the current and previous offers, they are what they are, and what they are (according to the administrators) is not good enough.
Do you know the worst bit? Despite the fact that everyone who reads my comments probably has me down as pro or anti one bidder or another, I really want someone to save us, and quickly, instead of being constantly spun PR crap.
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How do you know that it is a £5m offer to creditors?
The total is nowhere near £126 million, that is paper talk, and we all know how little truth the papers speak. That £126m figure includes £75million-ish to HMRC, something that DOES NOT EXIST, take £75m from that £126m figure and you will be much closer to the real figure.
Anyway, believe me if you want or don't believe me if you don't want to, but I'll say it again TBK = no liquidation, and that isn't just me guessing.
TBK cannot guarantee it, I am sure they will try to avoid liquidation.
£126m is only a potential figure, I am hopeful that it will be nearer £55 - £65m, but it was the one published by the administrators.
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Walking home from Lawwell HQ and I don't think I've been more proud of the support.
Fantastic turnout, great voice and great spirit. The Rangers, as Sandy Jardine says, will never disappear. I may have been skeptical before today, but I'm now fully convinced. We're more than a club and there will always be a Rangers.
That is the one thing that should never be in doubt.
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Has he? I would love to know how you know so much about the specifics of Kennedys bids?
I just don't know how people have the gall to sit there and criticize the people who are trying to save our club. I am not saying that TBK&BK are the right choice (although they would be mine) what I am saying is that if D&P choose, what turns out to be, the wrong bidder, I will blame them. And no one else.
Not sure I was too specific. The original bid being at around £5m is a matter of record, the new bid being at £5m is today emerging at the figure. I would b ehappy to be enlightened as being wrong.
I only want the club saved, the time we waste with people putting in unrealistic bids, refusing to pay exclusivity fees, etc, doesn't help us does it? It just delays and delays again.
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on Monday the spl will introduce sanctions against newcos.
miller will need to drop his newco plans or try to sell his newco to the fans.
let's see what happens.
Whereas, if he pulls out, TBK will need to wait a few weeks to then tell the fans that the evil creditors HMRC and ticketus (for we dislike them again now) won't accept our very reasonable offer of a CVA, but that we shouldn't worry as they will save the Rangers anyway, as a newco. (whisper it)
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never met a rich man that was daft enough to get in a bidding war when he's the only real bidder.
If Bill Miller isn't a real bidder, then we have ZERO real bidders today.
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Do you think they are getting paid for all the time an effort they are putting into the bid? All the more, what do you think they expect to gain from 'self-publicising'? I agree that this has taken a long to time to sort out, but D&P are an amateurish bunch and the responsibility lies with them as much as it lies with Miller/BK/TBK so if the wrong bidder is chosen, I will blame them. After all it was their job to pick the right bidder
In 2 months, Brian Kennedy has gone from a £5m offer to another £5m offer.
In 2 months, TBK have gone from demanding to be preferred bidders with a bid that was all in hock to ticketus, to being ready to be named PB's and failing to stump up the cash.
All the while, they have done everything to try and win a PR battle, because they have failed to win a financial one.
I am not against them getting the club, but I really do wonder why it is everyone else's fault, when BK/TBK have failed to actually put in a viable offer, in 2 and a half months, separately and jointly.
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Miller's bid dies on Monday we both know that.
I could bid 50 million as long as there are no spl sanctions.
safe to say my hand would never go near my pocket.
Are you Paul Murray? That seems to be his stance too, not much danger of hands in pockets there.
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Regardless how much Bill Millers bid is worth, it is dependent on SFA and SPL rulings. THAT is not an owner I want to be involved with our club, I want someone who is going to fight from the front regardless of what is thrown at them.
His demand that there are no sanctions is the only pressure any of the bidders have tried to put on the authorities at all. He is trying to push them away from sanctions or they risk killing the club. (on the downside, clearly he doesn't know Scotland, if he thinks that the authorities care).
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Well obviously nothing in life is 100% guaranteed, but believe me, TBK will not liquidate us
An offer of £5m to creditors who could potential total £126m (I've taken off the debentures), is exactly the sort of thing that will make a CVA impossible, and that will make liquidation a certainty.
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TBK = No liquidation, FACT
Not fact.
Office Staff Rumour
in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom
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If you read the OP, I think he is making one comment about outsourcing, and then trying to back it up with the evidence, that the staff may have been discussing TUPE. The TUPE discussion is far more likely to be related to that.
Newco or outsourcing would both require the same TUPE legislation to apply.
You can save money on outsourcing if you move to lower cost areas or countries for staff, or if you hire a company who can provide better economies of scale with purchase agreements (that is why catering should work, I'm not saying it does)