Big Slipper

I agree. I really do. But that person, if they'd appeared, would never have been able to fundamentally change what's happened. We were caught. I wouldn't argue for a minute that there's been an element in Scotland & Scottish football who have perhaps encouraged, or at least not stood in the way of, what's happened because it's been Rangers. But we're cutting our nose off to spite our face if we think 'punishing' other clubs or the SFA is going to make anything better. We as a club will only suffer in the long run.

Rest of World, I bet. Should be a good pick for Head-to-Head seasons... Until you get to Div 7. Then Hertha Berlin are gonna thump us.

Look, I'm not here for an argument. BUT - this has dragged on and on and on. We've been hellishly mismanaged for years. In any league, with any club, there would be repercussions. We've had ours. Let's just get on with it. We can only say 'It's not fair' so often - we should have put our hands up and taken what was coming a long time ago, and we might be in a better situation now.

£250, give or take, would be fair. All this emotion-led, uber fan stuff - we're gonna be paying to watch Div 3 teams. That's got to be reflected in the ST price.

Why does this really matter? It's time to stop agendas and get on with football - we've had our punishment, get on with it.

I'm in Govan Rear, and the thought of paying £500+ for my ticket when I have no idea what league we'll be playing in, or who I'll be watching, isn't attractive. For me, £500 isn't an inconsequential amount of money - it's an expense I've been happy to take on, but recently... It's just that doubt about what's happening with the club. Who is Green? Where is the money going? We've been getting turned over for a while now, and I'm not sure it's finished yet. Green isn't here because he loves the club - he's here because he wants a profit, full stop. And as for getting a refund when there's a conclusion to the league question... well, I won't be holding my breath. All that said, I haven't cancelled my ticket... yet. I'm not sure that I will, because I'm not going to stop supporting Rangers based on the fallout from a few crooked businessmen. However, I can understand those who haven't renewed, and I wouldn't dare criticise them. It's a fair sum of money, people are tired of what's going on, and it's become a less attractive package than it's ever been. A Partick Thistle season book is £260 - how are our tickets going to be priced in that context?

Not really surprising that the French find the UJ offensive. It's not a flag I'd ever fly, least of all wear, myself, for political and historical reasons (cue inevitable 'Get back to KDS, etc.' comments - well, whatever.) But, can't really defend someone effectively censoring it.

What age group is your writing class?

The SPL would keep going without us, no doubt about that. But, it would quickly become another League of Ireland - limited income, limited ability, limited competition. Anyone who argues that Scottish football would keep going in any viable way without Rangers is really kidding himself on. The idiots on the other side crowing about Rangers' demise, and making a great show of counting the days until we're closed down should be very careful what they wish for. Celtic fans have a well-known delusion when it comes to their reputation with other clubs, and even countries - would they be welcomed down south if we weren't part of the package? No. Why would they instantly become attractive to the Premiership? Celtic would be stuck in the SPL playing Hamilton in the Cup on a dreich Wednesday night just as now... but without the global attention, the allure in terms of signings, or the inter-club competition that the Old Firm brings.

Er... what?! Sorry, I didn't realise you were King of Rangers Media. 15,000 posts - you should really get out more. Or try watching some football instead of ticking boxes to call yourself a 'real' Rangers fan. Thanks for your valuable input.

Yes. Unless there's some problem with democracy that I'm not aware of.

Not had time to read the whole thread, but I agree with you mate, I do wish people would separate the debt of RFC from the debt of MiH, our debt as a football club is approximately 31 million, possibly a bit less by now, this has nothing to do with any overall debt that MiH might have. There is no way on this earth from a legal perspective that "new" debts can appear on Rangers' books. Report the other day (Herald?) suggested that the alleged £33m bid from Ellis et al was intended to cover the now £27m debt, plus the £6m which Murray bought the club for.