ClemensKrauss

I've not seen McCulloch play for the reserves at centre half. So I have the following questions: 1. How often has Lee played at centre half in professional football, over a career of 12 years? 2. How often has Lee played well, in any position, while at Rangers? 3. We regularly play four central defenders, two of them now approaching naturalisation at full back - exactly how long does a professional football manager need to work out we could do with proper cover when one first choice is nearly 40?

Celtic has played 17 away CL group stage games. 0 wins, 1 draw. 18 other teams have played 10 or more but less than 17 (so less than Celtic): They total 47 away wins, 60 away draws and 199 away points. In terms of away games played, Celtic is ranked 17th. In terms of games won, they are 105th and bottom, having won none and played more than others. In terms of away points gained, they are 92nd.

(Posted on FF, so for those who don't go there) This is important, as it is factual, and will be very useful for keeping the Yahoos straight. Celtic has now reached six CL group stages, and has no wins and only 1 point away from home. 105 teams have reached the first group stage of the CL since 1992/3. 40 have played in the first group stage only once. So let's start there, and move our way along until we at least find the group with the same number of group stage appearances as Celtic. TEAMS WITH ONE CL GROUP APPEARANCE (40) 13 have won an away CL game. 28 have at least one point - Zenit can make that 29 this season. TWO CL GROUP APPEARANCES (15) 12 have an away win in the CL. Only one has no points. THREE CL GROUP APPEARANCES (5) 4 have won an away CL game, ALL have more than one point. FOUR CL GROUP APPEARANCES (7) All bar one have wins away, and the other exceeds the Celtic points tally. FIVE CL GROUP APPEARANCES (7) All 7 have won away. SIX CL GROUP APPEARANCES - INCLUDES CELTIC - (8) The magnificent 7 have CL away wins (plural) adding up to 35. The other team has, of course, not won. TEAMS WITH A CL AWAY WIN (72) Man. United Milan Barcelona Real Madrid Lyon FC Porto Bayern Munich Arsenal Juventus Internazionale Chelsea Ajax Valencia Spartak Moscow PSV Liverpool Dortmund Rosenborg Dinamo Kiev Bayer Leverkusen AS Roma SS Lazio Werder Bremen Rangers PSG Panathinaikos AS Monaco Olympique Marseille IFK Goteborg Galatasaray Deportivo Club Bruges Auxerre Atletico Madrid Steau Bucharest Sparta Praha Shaktar Donetsk Sevilla Schalke 04 RSC Anderlecht Olympiakos Nantes Lokomotiv Moscow Feyenoord Fenerbache Bordeaux Villarreal VFB Stuttgart Udinese Sporting Real Sociedad Real Mallorca Real Betis RC Lens Newcastle Maribor Lille Kaiserslautern Hamburg Hadjuk Split Grasshoppers Fiorentina Ferencvaros FC Basel CSKA Moscow Croatia Zagreb Cluj Celta Vigo Besiktas Benfica Austria Salzburg Artmedia Bratislava TEAMS WITH MORE THAN ONE AWAY POINT (79) Man. United Barcelona Milan Real Madrid Bayern Munich Arsenal Lyon Juventus FC Porto Internazionale Chelsea Ajax PSV Valencia Liverpool Dortmund Spartak Moscow Rosenborg Dinamo Kiev Bayer Leverkusen AS Roma Rangers SS Lazio Deportivo AS Monaco PSG Panathinaikos Werder Bremen Sparta Praha Olympiakos Galatasaray RSC Anderlecht Olympique Marseille Club Bruges Steau Bucharest IFK Goteborg Feyenoord Benfica Atletico Madrid Nantes Fenerbache Bordeaux Auxerre Schalke 04 Lokomotiv Moscow Shaktar Donetsk Sporting Sevilla Lille RC Lens Fiorentina CSKA Moscow Croatia Zagreb AEK Athens Villarreal Real Betis Newcastle Maribor Kaiserslautern Hamburg Hadjuk Split Grasshoppers FC Basel Celta Vigo Besiktas Austria Salzburg Artmedia Bratislava VFB Stuttgart Udinese Sturm Graz Real Sociedad Real Mallorca Ferencvaros Cluj Parma Leeds United Hertha Berlin Genk Boavista 13 teams have only one away point in the CL first group stage. This is Celtic's sixth CL Group campaign. Of the others, only Aalborg have played in the group stages more than once, the other 11 having only one chance to accumulate points. Of the 23 teams without a win, only one other than Celtic (17) has played more than ten games, AEK Athens (12) - 17 have only played once in the competition. It's true that Olympiakos took until after their 30th away tie to win, but they had 7 draws by then, and now have 2 wins. Celtic has 1 draw. No wins. In short, their form on the road in the CL group stage is a disgrace.

Do you mean in terms of influence (which would make Ferguson a much more important and in some ways effective Captain than many often assume) or in terms of selecting himself? If the latter, are we to believe that Walter Smith, a man whom almost everyone would tell you is not to be crossed and most definitely a man of stature and his own viewpoint, is a stooge? Unlikely: to be as polite as Barry.

Tremendous site! The great Alan Brazil has the same sub appearances as Ruud Van Noodlehorse.

He's discovered a real flair for the theatrical - to fail to score in all those other games but save it for tough away trips to Celtic Park and Easter Road against his old teams is superb. Funnily enough, I didn't think he was as effective on Sunday, but the goals answer a lot of critics. Let's see how the season pans out - I for one would be happy to credit the player and Walter if he does in fact make a significant contribution, even if the details of the deal, and the way Smith treated the support, are far from ideal.

And one of our more technically proficient players is almost ready to return to contention. I'm very glad we have real midfield choice - we will need it, as a typical season brings loss of form, suspension and injury.

Waddell wasn't too keen on our support, vocally at times. He struggled badly with Celtic and his domestic record was poor. But you cannot discount Barcelona, nor his statesmanship and approach post-Disaster. And Waddell the Ranger - as player, manager and director - is a considerable figure. If Wallace had not come back then there would be no real contest. It depends how much weight you give to that second period, and whether you think someone else would have done better with those limitations of resource.

One of the greatest of all. Alan Morton.

Boyd scores. I am glad that is the good part of his game. The other stuff is much easier to improve at. I don't think his overall play was anywhere near as bad tonight as some would suggest. Nor do I feel that by comparison with his fellow strikers he was as bad. But there's definitely a bit of the 'loathed ex' syndrome when it comes to the way fans rate some players. They can do no right, and people begin to watch games and often come to conclusions that are baffling. I know this because we've all had blind spots or people we've had really negative opinions of, and it is hard to shake off at times.

Tonight we had some terrible finishing, but more than that some awful decision-making when in the last third. On another night we could have scored six or seven, easily. And the worst culprits, not the sole but the worst, were Wee Nacho and JCD. Yet the biggest thread is about Boyd.

Kenny is a pressman's dream: quote after quote, after spill, after leak. A couple of good games is not enough to have him knighted.

Are referees under-paid? If so, how should they be properly rewarded in this multi-billion pound entertainment industry?

Who'd have thought that such downsizing of ambition was something so readily accepted by the yoof? I always thought it took a little longer for melancholy and full Murray worship to develop.

Why oh why is that OP still here? It's just an attempt to be offensive and to rile people - there is no path to sensible debate when the original post is just bile and ill-informed drivel.