if you cant involve yourself in the discusion why reply? If you can't make a thread with any point to it, why make one? if you cant read the point in the first post why make an arse of yourself If the first post has a point to it, don't hesitate to point it out the point is, and i think ive made it pretty obvious... people who claim that the European cup and champions league are not the same. what do you think about the Old scottish league and the newer SPL? are they still the same competitions then? It is also pretty obvious you are on the windup, shown by your rising to critical replies. If you want a response to your question from me, then.. No they (spl and old scottish league) are not any different in prestige. You can have your EC. We'll take our world record breaking 51 titles.