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Too late. The nation voted for the SNP. Just think what might be if they get their Full Independece ??? They will then be allowed to stand and sing songs telling us if you want to be British Go there !! There might be a reason why they dont mind the tims singing IRA and anti-British songs,,,cos the people like you said that are in charge at the moment are all anti-British themselves.. All this makes you wonder if the Union was broken will Scotland be so devided it becomes the new N Ireland ??? They certainly wont want us around,,,,

Oleg you have a valid point and seem quite determined. I have a suggestion for you. The odd person either emailing or calling in complaints will be easilly ignored. If you want to get a response then you have to do something in numbers and unified before people will generally listen. This forum has over 9000 members for a start ,,,so why not start a thread list of support??. There is obviously a lot of feeling of misjustice been thrown up by all this. Dont condone some of our own songs for that will get nowhere, but definately should be ONE LAW FOR ALL. There must be loads of other fan forums that could do likewise. Then print off list and send to all concerned. Forum members should just copy and paste list into a new reply, and add their name to the bottom of the list,and you be off and running,,, Youll have my name mate

interested as well in how the SNP leader will approach it all ,, i mean i wouldn't have thought with his planned referendum on scot independance he wont want to be seen taking sides. Think of the votes eh,, Scotland still is mainly a protestant country ,,that is the only reason he says he wants to keep the monarchy. I know for fact cos salmond was kicked off an RAF base officers mess dine night a few yeears back,, when he got pissed and let out his TRUE thoughts on the queen,,, was asked politely to leave lol. Just make you think if he gets his way ,,we might have to put up with even more bias against us,,,so email all those English media,, and let them know too

here is skysports news email add U2US@skysports.com the sun link http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/article296174.ece

Why not add SKY SPORTS NEWS and news of the world ,or the Sun to that list as there is NO mention of it down here in England and they would jump all over IRA stuff,,,maybe you could do the tims on the new anti terroism laws :unionflag:

I think the whole PC thing has gone out of control, when it comes down to one fan making a complaint to another nations embassy and two governments getting involved. The only reason these days that fans like this get away with it is cos there are all too many people these days willing to listen. I mean football is supposed to be about winding up your opposition,, what did he expect to hear going to an old firm match (from both fans)???? Just compare to fans in the likes of turkey, greece, and South America FGS,,,, I doubt he was that easilly offended rather just knew could kick up another shitstorm... as a member of the Armed Forces I thought one of the things we where supposed to be upholdiing was FREEDOM OF SPEECH,,what ever happened to that ?? This last time I checked this wasn't North Korea !!! No one ever died from a song on a football terrace,, get real,, the government has more important things to deal with :unionflag:

Just wondering what peoples thoughts are on the killie fans this weekend chanting " your just a fat eddie Murphy " when JCD came on. What would have been said if say our fans did the same in a old firm game,, or in sny other game for that matter. There isnt any actual racist slur as such but is it racist if in intent??? and just a clever way around it?? Mind you the kille fans got reported last season and several of their fans handed over by stewards to the cops for alledged sectarian abuse at ceptic park. The killie fans where just singing Hello Hello we are the killie boys (a song they have adopted for years), and the tims complained to the officials , so they do like to push it a bit,,but felt for them last year,,that was just pish

how can you watch on rangers live ?? thought that was only available outside the UK ???

Lets not forget that we bought Whittaker for RB. But how often since arriving at gers has he had the chance to play in his own natural position ?? First he was behind Hutton ( understandbly), and then he gets played just about everywhere else including LM when he must have thought he would get his old posn back when hutton left. No wonder his confidence is low. He is a RB/RM and shouldnt be judged IMO until he is given an opportunity to play there in a more consistent time frame. He has a lot more potential than Broadfoot, and anyone that cant see that dosent know anything about football,,,as much as he plays his heart out , he is just NOT Rangers class and never will be. IMO HE JUST HASNT HAD A FAIR CRACK AT PLAYING HIS OWN NATURAL GAME,,once he has THEN JUDGE HIM

McGregor Broadfoot / whittaker______Bougherra______Weir______Papac Edu Davis_______ Mendes ____Adam / Beasley Miller_____Boyd Aaron Novo JCD and when were up 4 or 5 up why not throw Fleck on,, LOL

I had heard that any ill feeling that he held or still does,, where based on the way he says he was treated at the club for his marriage to a RC , But i havent read his book, that was just what i have heard and why he would never have considered coming back in any case..

cheers guys will def give em a try next home game,,,cheers

yeh but they have planty practise in waving white flags

nothing wrong with them wearing Green ,,Im honestly not meaning it that way,, just dont see the connection thats all,, i mean there is no Green in their flag ,,and considering the songs there fans chant and their History ,,it just seems a little hypocrytical as Green is usually associated with the nationlists,, I cant imagine our fans excepting a Green away strip ,,just to draw a comparrison ,, I know lots of boys from North Ireland in the Military,,and when I call them Irish (in jest) they usually kick off,,, so how did it all come about ,,, was curious thats all ??

I just wondered why Northern Ireland National Team play in Green ?? I mean their national anthem is God save the queen,, there fans wave Union jacks and the Red Hand (obviously) their support is about 99% Protestant,, all the catholics in the North support the republic!!! there is NO green in their National flag,,and they claim to be more British than Irish,,,so without being bigoted I just wondered if there was a reason why they wear Green,, anyone know why ??????????? is it just a PC thing ????

I have heard that there are a few websites on the go (probably beaming back to middle east etc), that show live football. Does anyone know any ?? and can you find home games on the net ??. Im in the forces down south and cant get back , i get to see away games on Setanta,, but just wondered if anyone knew of any of these. ????

YEH his name is original lol ,,, Donk is a regular Dutch U21 mate and he is massive as well at 6ft 3,, and strong to boot,, played for AZ Alkmaar,,where he was good enough to be a regular for Louis van Gaal,, will be a future dutch star,,hope west brom go down , maybe then we can swoop in ,,would have been a great steal,,, here's the Donk

Just heard that the promissing young Dutch CB who was attracting interest from a host of big clubs (Including Man Unt last Jan),,has just signed for West Brom !!!! the deal is a season long loan with option to buy. WHY couldnt we have gone in for something like that ?? Surely we are still a bigger club with more pull than the likes of west brom,,,they signed that other dutch U21 RB Zuiverloon as well,,, :unionflag:

we do have another RB in whittaker,, whomb I would like to see get a run in his own natural posn,instead of being used as a standin wherever there is a shortfall,, dont get me wrong Kirk played well today,,,for the second half at least (thought he was found wanting in the first at times ) but he tends tp get himself out of posn way too often without the pace to recover. AS a mate of mine who is a life long st mirren fan and seen him a lot more times than we have,, quote: He is a good defender when he remembers he isnt a forward,,,,,well done the lads though :unionflag:

I dont think it fair to jump down someones throat for making a mere suggestion,,likewise I dont really think it fair either to judge someone on one sub appearance in a international friendly when we are also only 2 matches into a new season,,,and its not as if he was up aginst World Class defenders either,,but he did show some flare in what was otherwise a torturous game to watch,

I would hardly say LB is the last part that needs reinforcements,, apart from Papac who would you play there ?? Stevie Smith?? dont know how he will be after being out so long,,,, Broadfoot ?? the sooner he go's the better,,he is an embaressment, cant even take a throw in ,, and looks like he has just run a marathon after 10 mins !!! whittaker?? ,,IMO he should only be playing in his own posn at RB/RM,,, cant understand why he would put Broadfoot there before him ,,and play him out of posn like he did before,, although now with the added midfielders comming in ,,hopefully not be the case. I agree I havent seen enough of papac playing CB and he is a decent LB,, and I agree that we need another CB more,, i just say we could do with cover in the LB/RB posn's as well....

Papac isnt an out and out LB though,,,he is a CB by trade,, he has only been covering there ( pretty well all the same ),,,however if we got another LB,, then Papac could be used in his own role as a CB or as cover for LB,,,,think that might have been part the reason why they where looking at reynolds as he too can play both. Its depends on who is available at the moment if they go in for a CB then papac will probably keep playing LB,, if a good LB became available then they might go for that and move papac back into CB

ok here a few more suggestions Eduardo ALCIDES played at PSV last year helping them to the title and to the qarter final of the UEFA cup,,,belongs to chelsea,with no chance of breaking into the first team,and was up for loan from start of the window,,just heard he got loaned to Dnipro in Ukraine,, ,too late now might have done a job Armand Traore young 18yr old french LB at Arsenal,,promising youngster however Arsenal dont seem to loan out their youngsters as much,,probably play a couple times in the cup Alexandre SONG-BILLONG,,DM/CB Arsenal, same as before ,,Had a fairly decent African nations ..just hasnt made the breakthrough,,even a fair loan to buy bid could be a possible ?? Roland Lamah,,Anderlecht,, ( see my thread on players from Eredivisse for full description),,Anderlecht are keen to loan him out again this season Franci di Santo,,striker Chelsea,, another one of the chelsea youngsters with little or no chance of first team footie,,,,this promising Argie is absoulute class , but would he come north of the border on loan ??? PALOSCHI, Alberto,, this young sriker at Milan is now way down the pecking order behind ,Pato,Ronaldinho, Borreiello, and Inzaghi,,and desperate to go out on loan for first team footie,,,pity we dont have Euro footie to temp Milan or they might have considered it ? ? Last up and a bit ambitious but hey what the Hell we are a big club yeh ??,,,,,,Ruben de La Red,,Madrid,, has gone back to Madrid after a successful year on loan at Getafe and has very little chance of first team footie at Madrid,,they where planniing to sell him to help finnace the Ronaldo deal that seems to be dead in the water,,,,played in the euro's as well,,,,,but with no Euro footie, we would probbably just end up putting the interest to Celtic to come in for him,, any more ideas ??

Marc Torrejon ,,Espanyol Fedrico Fazio Sevilla Ryan Donk AZ Alkmaar Mathias Cahais FC GRONINGEN ALL CB'S HOW MUCH IS THE BUDGET AGAIN ??? LOL

Was just wondering who we might be able to get on loan,,there's plant of players at the top teams who probably wont get games just yet,,,so could we get em on loan. 1.Emiliano INSUA, liverpool's young LB,,its a posn we coould do with cover in,,heard he was going to go to Newcastle earlier,,but that seems to have faded,,so why not ,,,heard he was impressive in their pre season games ,, any suggestions ?????????????