E-mail from a "Mate"

[Bakbear 3,586]

Just Wanted to share a wee e-mail exchange I had with one of my mates out here and see what the reaction. Would prefer it wasn't moved to Old Firm as it is the Gers fans reaction i am interested in. Don't care about the Celtic fans reaction

Here it is with the e-mail I received first and my response later:

----- Forwarded Message ----

Sent: Wednesday, 7 February, 2007 1:47:20 PM

Subject: Henrik

The next time some h**/idiot tries to compare:

HENRIK LARSSON (The king)

to

Brian Laudrup (Jim White's boyfriend - JWB)

Shoot them down with some of these facts...........

1. The King won 4 Scottish Titles.

Jim White's Boyfriend won 3.

2. The King won 2 Scottish Cups.

Jim White's Boyfriend won 1.

3. The King won 4 League Cups.

Jim White's Boyfriend won 2.

4. The King scored 2 goals in a UEFA Cup Final.

Jim White's Boyfriend never played in a UEFA Cup Final.

5. The King was part of a European Cup winning team.

JWB never played in a European Cup Final.

6. The King scored in the Champions League group stages every

season he was in them.

JWB never scored in the group stages of the Champions League.

Not even once. Zero times.

7. The King won 2 Spanish League titles.

JWB lasted 2 Premiership games before quitting.

8. The King scored 242 goals in Scotland.

JWB never even got out of double figures.

9. The King won every available honour/award a footballer

can win in Scotland.

JWB did not.

10. The King won the European Golden Boot.

JWB did not.

11. The King is Britain's top European goalscorer.

JWB is not even in the top 150.

12. The King was voted Sweden's greatest EVER player, ahead of

Llundberg, Ibrahimovic etc.

JWB was not even in Denmark's top 5 ever.

He finished below Erik Bo Anderson.

13. The King scored goals in World Cup 1994, World Cup 2002,

World Cup 2006 as well as Euro 2000 and Euro 2004.

JWB never ever ever scored in an international tournament.

Not even once. Zero times.

14. The King had a national campaign in Spain to get him to stay

on at Barcalona.

JWB admits in his own words on his Scottish club's website

that he was a failure in Germany and England and that Italian

football was not for him.

WE ALL agree with him.

15. The King was awarded an MBE in Britain.

JWB was not.

16. The King was voted the greatest ever foreigner in Scotland

by the Scottish press.

JWB was not.

17. The King is about to turn 34 and had the biggest club in Europe

Barcelona, begged him to stay. Now he'[s playing for Man Utd!!!

JWB was finished at 30. 29 actually, but he came out of

'retirement' at 30 to play with amateurs in Denmark for 2 months.

That was nice of him.

Now, watch 120,000 Barcalona fans and players chant the name of "The

King" and watch Ronaldinho try to persuade him to stay in his farewell

presentation.....

enjoy........watching him continue his magnificent career with Man Utd

Hail Hail

----- Replied Message ----

Sent: Thursday, 15 February, 2007 11:47:20 AM

Subject: RE: Henrik

He he.. painful really...

Deep Breath

Laudrup played 133 games for Rangers as opposed to Larssons 221. So hardly valid comparing the number of trophies considering their duration in Scottish football was different. However if you were to work out the ratio of trophies to appearances then Laudrup comes out on top. Richard Gough for example played 294 games for Rangers and won 9 titles (in a row apparently) as well as numerous other trophies. Shall we compare King Richard with "King" Henrik???

Larsson was part of a European cup winning team after leaving your club, in fact in the same team as one of our ex-players Gio Van Bronckhurst, who ... for the record.. played only 77 games for Rangers, almost a third of Henrik Larssons total for Celtic yet bagged 2 league victories and 3 domestic cups again, ratio wise, a better games to trophies ratio (Henrik got a trophy for every 27.7 games he played, Gio got one every 15.4 and Laudrup one every 22.4). None-the -less comparing records of players before arriving or after leaving your own is clutching at straws, Rino Gattuso, world cup winner, Stefan Klos European cup winner, Stephane Guivarch ffs won a world cup

Henrik Larsson's position is Striker, Brian Laudrup's position was Attacking Midfielder. To compare goal scoring stats is juvenile at best.

There are also other clearly erroneous statements in there like

JWB was not even in Denmark's top 5 ever. He finished below Erik Bo Anderson.

What utter clap trap, The Laudrup brothers are widely acknowledged as the best players Denmark has ever produced, competing with the likes of Schmeichel and John Dahl Tomasson and Brian Laudrup was actually voted 5th best player in the world in 1992 although he did lose out to brother Michael in Denmarks best ever. Eric Bo Andersen is a plumber who never even registered in a Danish vote

The King won every available honour/award a footballer can win in Scotland. JWB did not.

The awards in Scottish football presumabely meaning players player of the year and writers player of the year, both of which Laudrup did actually win

JWB never ever ever scored in an international tournament. Not even once. Zero times.

Outright fallacy. Laudrup was a major feature of the 1990 European Champion winning side for Denmark. He did not score in "that" tournament however he scored 3 goals in 3 games at Euro 96 despite a misfiring team, he scored in the 1998 World Cup, and scored a goal every 4 games for his country despite NOT BEING A STRIKER

Laudrup retired early in his career after realising that to leave Rangers is to step down whereas Larsson has realised that after Celtic the only way is up

Henrik Larsson, one of the finest talents ever to grace any football field, one of the true Greats to have played in Scotland specifically, a player with only 7% body fat at the age of 34 and plying his trade at the very top. A truely professional footballer and also a decent man and you monkeys tarnish his name by spouting this pish. A pointless effort at one upmanship supported by lies and irrelevant statistics.

Laudrup was a Rangers great, Henrik was a Celtic great whats the problem? Why does there need to be a comparison? What is missing in these knuckle draggers sad existence that drives them to prove anything?

and Breathe..... rant over

Cheers

[smitzer007 198]

Good read Bakbear. You've actually just shown the fundamental difference between them and us. We can appreciate good footballers, no matter who they play/played for but they feel the need to lie and fabricate their way through life to make 'the Celtic' look like something they are not. Everything that Rangers has achieved is FACT. Everything that Celtic supporters tell you they've achieved you feel the need to double check 'cause you always have that nagging feeling that they've made it up.

(clap)

[Ibroxin83 0]

surely the reception he got at Barca should have been like the one he got at the Tic after all he is the greatest player ever to wear the hoops.

[smitzer007 198]

surely the reception he got at Barca should have been like the one he got at the Tic after all he is the greatest player ever to wear the hoops.

Yeah, but there was only 120,00 cheering for him at the Nou Camp. There was at least 650,000 crammed into Smelltic Park.

[blueben_d 40]

good reply

[machine! 15]

Spot on response mate (clap) (clap)

[RedWhiteBlue1872 407]

Larsson didny win young playe rof the year :pipeguy:

[Poetry_In_Blue 1,043]

Very good reply mate (clap)

Both players are excellent in their own rights, typical of a smeltic fan to try and compare a striker who is expected to score goals with a midfielder, who should score the occasional goal but provide the passes for goals to be scored.

[Briton 394]

Excellent reply.

[ricksen_da_best 2,034]

larsson signed for celtic

laudrup signed for rangers..

big difference mate

larsson was a great player...he did what you want a striker to do..score goals...him and laudrup didnt play in the same position so how can you say if one was better than the other.

larsson was the better striker..laudrup was the better midfield

[Briton 394]

Actually when Celtic signed Larsson he was a wide man if I remember correctly. In a similar fashion to Henry he was switched to a central striker.

Both great players and silly to compare them.

[ricksen_da_best 2,034]

Actually when Celtic signed Larsson he was a wide man if I remember correctly. In a similar fashion to Henry he was switched to a central striker.

Both great players and silly to compare them.

but you still cant compare them..they didnt play in the same position during their careers at rangers and celtic..

[BlueSuedeSambas 54,488]

Excellent reply. I pressume you never got one back after you put him to shame?

[Danny 9]

Henrik Larsson sucks.

I kid. Fine player, and one of the greatest we've had in Scotland.

[Briton 394]

Actually when Celtic signed Larsson he was a wide man if I remember correctly. In a similar fashion to Henry he was switched to a central striker.

Both great players and silly to compare them.

but you still cant compare them..they didnt play in the same position during their careers at rangers and celtic..

I said that (sort of ). Just mentioned that as some of the younger posters may not know that Larsson was not a striker before coming to Scotland.

[Bakbear 3,586]

Excellent reply. I pressume you never got one back after you put him to shame?

The Simple Reply was:

-----Original Message-----------

And I thought that I could rant!!!!!!

Not bad though, all things considered!!

[BlueSuedeSambas 54,488]

I just don't get why some people can't appreciate that we had two players who were arguably world class in our league for any length of time!

Our league is crap in comparison to other leagues yet they came here and beacme legends when they could so easily have left earlier.

Rangers and celtic fans should both brag to others outside of Scotland that we had these two in our league and insted you see Celtic fans sending pish like that about!

[Bakbear 3,586]

Oh and I think I got some of my facts wrong but I was ranting so I think I can be forgiven, Denmark didn't win the European Championships in 1990 but in 1992 and I was taking most of the Stats from Wikipedia so there may be some errors in number of appearances etc. but the overall point was that it was a ludicrous comparison supported by lies and pointless statistics... Also did Gough win 9 titles? Was he there for all of them, I seem to recall he was? and how many domestic cup competitions did we win when Gough was playing or us?

[Stuart_RFC 41]

nice reply (clap)

how dare anyone try and badmouth GOD

[Briton 394]

Oh and I think I got some of my facts wrong but I was ranting so I think I can be forgiven, Denmark didn't win the European Championships in 1990 but in 1992 and I was taking most of the Stats from Wikipedia so there may be some errors in number of appearances etc. but the overall point was that it was a ludicrous comparison supported by lies and pointless statistics... Also did Gough win 9 titles? Was he there for all of them, I seem to recall he was? and how many domestic cup competitions did we win when Gough was playing or us?

Richard Gough won 9 titles, 3 Scottish Cups and 6 League Cups during his time at Rangers. There was one treble in 92-93.

[Bakbear 3,586]

Oh and I think I got some of my facts wrong but I was ranting so I think I can be forgiven, Denmark didn't win the European Championships in 1990 but in 1992 and I was taking most of the Stats from Wikipedia so there may be some errors in number of appearances etc. but the overall point was that it was a ludicrous comparison supported by lies and pointless statistics... Also did Gough win 9 titles? Was he there for all of them, I seem to recall he was? and how many domestic cup competitions did we win when Gough was playing or us?

Richard Gough won 9 titles, 3 Scottish Cups and 6 League Cups during his time at Rangers. There was one treble in 92-93.

Cheers, so I wasn't too far off the mark then...