Raghead 24 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 When does our deal run out with them ? And how much do we get for merchandise per year from the deal? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marka1979 76 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Im sure gordon smith said it would be 2015 , this was a reply that 1 of the bears posted in the forum that got a reply from him. not too sure how much the deal is worth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghead 24 Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 I was trying to think how we could increase our income but that's sum way off and I think if we where to break the deal it would cost us, not an option. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFarmer 260 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 According to this it will be the end of the 2015/2016 season (so 2016)http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/4788114.stmten year deal staring in summer 2006 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boss 1,941 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Finishes in 2016.We get/got:- £18m up front- £3m a year- saved about £1m a year in interest because the £18m reduced our debt- cost us (from memory) about £3.5m to shut the shops etc (this there was maybe about another £1m the next year also)So over the 10 years:£18m + £30m + £10m - £3.5m - £1m = £53.5m, or £5.35m a year for sitting back and doing nothing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFarmer 260 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I was trying to think how we could increase our income but that's sum way off and I think if we where to break the deal it would cost us, not an option.Were getting a minimum of £3M a season, so there's no need to end the deal, we would get nowhere near that in profit, were we to set all our old shops up again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheFarmer 260 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Finishes in 2016.We get/got:- £18m up front- £3m a year- saved about £1m a year in interest because the £18m reduced our debt- cost us (from memory) about £3.5m to shut the shops etc (this there was maybe about another £1m the next year also)So over the 10 years:£18m + £30m + £10m - £3.5m - £1m = £53.5m, or £5.35m a year for sitting back and doing nothing.Im sure we also got a bonus in some of the previous years for breaking our shirt sales targets aswell Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghead 24 Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 Surely we could earn £10 m a season from merchandise ? Think Ali Russell is in the know and breaking the American market? Just an opinion Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLawMan 6,240 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Surely we could earn £10 m a season from merchandise ? Think Ali Russell is in the know and breaking the American market? Just an opinionWe could.....but it would cost us £8m to do it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFarmer 260 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 We could.....but it would cost us £8m to do it Anyone who says this isnt a good deal financially, is deluded. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghead 24 Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 What ever happend to the deal with fox tv? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillete 1,338 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 If my maths are correct , say 100000 strips are sold every yr I'm sure there would be At £40 a pop That's £4m a yr only on that strip , outwith an away top/shorts/socks and other merchandise Obviously to make the strips and renting of retail facilities and wages would bring it down But we would surely , surely be making more than £3m a yr on merchandise Especially if we ditched umbro and went with adidas or Nike Think of the sales in america in all the Nike shops etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFarmer 260 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 If my maths are correct , say 100000 strips are sold every yr I'm sure there would be At £40 a pop That's £4m a yr only on that strip , outwith an away top/shorts/socks and other merchandise Obviously to make the strips and renting of retail facilities and wages would bring it down But we would surely , surely be making more than £3m a yr on merchandise Especially if we ditched umbro and went with adidas or Nike Think of the sales in america in all the Nike shops etcIm sure the figures pre JJB deal substantially disprove this theory, iv seen them posted on here in the past but dont have them to hand. TheWeisssMan may be able to help? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFarmer 260 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 What ever happend to the deal with fox tv?Even if any 'fox deal' materialised it would have nothing to do with the JJB deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadian_bear 1 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Only difficulty with hoping for an upsurge in North American sales should we switch from JJB is the degree to which North American fans are ALREADY ordering from the club shop online. Not sure of the situation in the USA, but here in Canada, my Rangers-supporting friends and I simply order from the online club shop. If there was not a substantial upsurge in sales, it would not be more profitable. Probably best to do a North American tour first to test the waters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLawMan 6,240 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 If my maths are correct , say 100000 strips are sold every yr I'm sure there would be At £40 a pop That's £4m a yr only on that strip , outwith an away top/shorts/socks and other merchandise Obviously to make the strips and renting of retail facilities and wages would bring it down But we would surely , surely be making more than £3m a yr on merchandise Especially if we ditched umbro and went with adidas or Nike Think of the sales in america in all the Nike shops etcWe were making profits of £2m and less on merchandising prior to the deal being done. As the Boss has pointed out, the deal means £5m per year, bottom line, no risk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weird_Beard 99 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Only difficulty with hoping for an upsurge in North American sales should we switch from JJB is the degree to which North American fans are ALREADY ordering from the club shop online. Not sure of the situation in the USA, but here in Canada, my Rangers-supporting friends and I simply order from the online club shop. If there was not a substantial upsurge in sales, it would not be more profitable. Probably best to do a North American tour first to test the waters.or sign Jorge Claros Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIESEL RFC 32 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 or sign Jorge Claros Hes from south america Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boss 1,941 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Im sure we also got a bonus in some of the previous years for breaking our shirt sales targets aswell So far as we are aware, the bonus points have never been achieved and indeed appear to be unachievable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boss 1,941 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Surely we could earn £10 m a season from merchandise ? Think Ali Russell is in the know and breaking the American market? Just an opinion£10m a season? Show me the numbers on which you base that opinion. (P.S. You're millions out. The consensus amongst the beancounters is that this is a great deal financially, albeit a dreadful deal from a customer service POV.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFarmer 260 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 So far as we are aware, the bonus points have never been achieved and indeed appear to be unachievable.Cheers. I was under the impression we at least broke them in the UEFA Cup final season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghead 24 Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 £10m a season? Show me the numbers on which you base that opinion. (P.S. You're millions out. The consensus amongst the beancounters is that this is a great deal financially, albeit a dreadful deal from a customer service POV.)I don't have any numbers I was debating with 1 of them and he informed me that they earn between 14-16m a year and we earn 3. I knew about the jjb deal but surely they don't earn that the gulf between us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boss 1,941 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I don't have any numbers I was debating with 1 of them and he informed me that they earn between 14-16m a year and we earn 3. I knew about the jjb deal but surely they don't earn that the gulf between us.They're deluded. Their SALES in 2011 were £14,330,000 (2010: £15,496,000). They'll be lucky to be making much (any?) profit on that. The last year our details were available (2004?) we had SALES of about £20m and PROFIT on that of about £5m IIRC. That was retailing at its height - the numbers were significantly down in the next two years. It costs millions to run shops, buy stock, pay staff etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghead 24 Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 They're deluded. Their SALES in 2011 were £14,330,000 (2010: £15,496,000). They'll be lucky to be making much (any?) profit on that. The last year our details were available (2004?) we had SALES of about £20m and PROFIT on that of about £5m IIRC. That was retailing at its height - the numbers were significantly down in the next two years. It costs millions to run shops, buy stock, pay staff etc.Cheers for that il make sure I rip into the cunt next time I c him Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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