scarkev 3,540 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 a lot of folk and businesses.Yes that were part of Greens consortium....Skibunny has suggested that did not happen, am I missing something? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and True 311 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I know Green doesn't own Rangers, I know Green knows he doesn't own Rangers as he said as much in his STV interview and I don't know any Rangers fans that think Green owns Rangers.So why is there a wall of text making my eyes bleed telling me what I already know?If you read said wall of text it goes some way to explaining. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR 1,480 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Please can you show us the proof of the allegations and overspending, not all of us blindly believe what we are told and at the moment we have seen what green has done and nothing else apart from people opinions of what he is doing.Please answer this ski bunny and provides the facts. yup to this Jimbo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and True 311 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 We can do fuck all and it's time people realised that.We will never stop supporting the team so, the hit them where it hurts protest would not work anyway.We don't have the financial clout as a fragmented fan base for doing really much apart from.Standing by and hoping and praying that these rich twats involved get their shit in the one sock and make us a profitable and top league club once again ASAP.They are all loaded by good dealing business to business so may the best team win IMO.One thing is sure though, not one of the groups will want to run the club down as they will make no money if they do.It's in all parties interest to have a profitable club once again and raise our value in the market and that is a fact.Ps. For twats I meant to write business, bloody spell checker I agree with you...to a large extent, but simply stating we want clarity cant do any harm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR 1,480 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 If you read said wall of text it goes some way to explaining.If it tells me what I already know....why do I need to read it...? On a serious note tho, can any of it be substantiated? Or is it speculation, because quite frankly there hasn't quite been enough of that lately. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkiBunny 441 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Hello?Self-awareness?Listen mate, it's quite obvious you've suddenly resurfaced as this issue gives you the perfect vehicle to continue your personal vendetta against 'club men' who you have had a grudge with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and True 311 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Please can you show us the proof of the allegations and overspending, not all of us blindly believe what we are told and at the moment we have seen what green has done and nothing else apart from people opinions of what he is doing.Like you I dont have any proofSo everything must be rosy in the accounts office. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and True 311 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 If it tells me what I already know....why do I need to read it...?On a serious note tho, can any of it be substantiated? Or is it speculation, because quite frankly there hasn't quite been enough of that lately.Not nearly enough I would have saidspeculation needs to continue until we have the answers.If all is well then show us and then chase the requisition request.If its not then show us and tell us how you will fix it.I would have thought that would be every Rangers fans aim. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 A well written article does not make a correct one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
euanRFC 119 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Thats awful long when a simple statement would have done... there should be a max word limit.it is well written though Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Did I really need several hundred words to tell me 8% is not 100%. Scottish education cant be what it was. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Forever 179 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 You make alot of fair points in response but to pick up on one thing....Green paid 1p a share at a time when the club had a massive cloud hanging over it, with no guaranteed league status and was facing up to the prospect of losing almost an entire team....we are now in a much stronger position (despite all the uncertainty) so why should he not maximize the profit he is looking to make? Liverpool bought Suarez for 20 million and now want in excess of 50 million for him......are they wrong to demand an inflated fee for their asset as well?Green's is demanding 70x what he paid, I don't grudge him a good profit (say 40-45p) but I think that demanding 70p is either extreme greed or a negotiating tactic (but it didn't seem that way).In contrast, Liverpool are demanding around 2.5x their investment, which I think is a far more reasonable demand, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Forever 179 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 . "Was" pulling the strings then?Glad we cleared that up'Was' was used because I was referring to a particular conversation in the past. I think its naive to assume that the situation has changed in the meantime. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVB 2,560 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Listen mate, it's quite obvious you've suddenly resurfaced as this issue gives you the perfect vehicle to continue your personal vendetta against 'club men' who you have had a grudge with.Yes, that was it. Nothing to do with my ban coming to an end.I have a vendetta? Thanks for letting me know.Maybe if these greedy, backstabbing bastards would just fuck off back under their rock, and let Green finish what he started, I wouldn't feel the need to say anything about them.Mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eosmhdo 1,879 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Green's is demanding 70x what he paid, I don't grudge him a good profit (say 40-45p) but I think that demanding 70p is either extreme greed or a negotiating tactic (but it didn't seem that way).In contrast, Liverpool are demanding around 2.5x their investment, which I think is a far more reasonable demand,McColl sold a company for 750m that he bought for 45m, just saying Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil_Maverick 23 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Greens Consortium owns 28% of the club but he only owns 17% of the holding company, its a complicated matter that need sorting Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Still waiting on Skibunny to tell us who did buy the club (assets/goodwill etc) if it wasnt Greens consortium as I was led to believe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,299 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Let me summarize: OP=Fud. Author=Fud. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 'Was' was used because I was referring to a particular conversation in the past. I think its naive to assume that the situation has changed in the meantime.Fury is repeatedly stating it as fact Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and True 311 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 McColl sold a company for 750m that he bought for 45m, just sayingso around 1 third of the mark up Green wants Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Forever 179 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 McColl sold a company for 750m that he bought for 45m, just sayingI bet that company had been run better than we're being run right now. For instance, I'd imagine that they weren't burning through cash to cover losses, or shelling out on 'consultants' who court media attention on a regular basis to offer comments on issues he shouldn't be commenting on (even if his comments had some truth to them). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eosmhdo 1,879 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I bet that company had been run better than we're being run right now. For instance, I'd imagine that they weren't burning through cash to cover losses, or shelling out on 'consultants' who court media attention on a regular basis to offer comments on issues he shouldn't be commenting on (even if his comments had some truth to them).Have not got a clue about that side of his business but it is quite a mark up don't you think? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I bet that company had been run better than we're being run right now. For instance, I'd imagine that they weren't burning through cash to cover losses, or shelling out on 'consultants' who court media attention on a regular basis to offer comments on issues he shouldn't be commenting on (even if his comments had some truth to them).Or paying poor managers £750k a year? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVB 2,560 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Or paying poor managers £750k a year?Don't be ridiculous, he's worth every penny. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Forever 179 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Or paying poor managers £750k a year?Agreed. Please don't misconstrue my arguments as a defence of the manager. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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