What is wrong with our Fitness ?

[jack1690 793]

Never read so much nonsense about training to peak physical fitness as I have in this thread.

Most must be lazy & never played a game of football in their life.

[UKIP BEAR 370]

How come just about every player who has moved to the premiership from here talks about how"they're all athletes"

They train to get like that.

Its called DEDICATION.

They are faster fitter stronger

So what does that tell you?

Players up here have the stevie thompson attitude.

When Durrant asked him to stay behind after training for some extra work(when walter was manager)

He told him that he had a guitar lesson.

[piperpete 3,186]

100% serious. Coaching technique to players who it's already expected of is a waste of time and effort. Spl quality players should be able to pass a ball 5 yards and take a corner without it being coached once they are a professional. If I couldn't do the very basic parts of job without coaching I wouldn't have a job.

Practice makes perfect, In golf a player putts for hours to get his technique right, in tennis they practice serving, of course a player should hone his skills by practicing.

[ianb1547 3,767]

to quote my old manager....."play the game properly and let the ball do the work....the ball never gets tired."

collectively, I don't think theres much wrong with our fitness, although one or two individuals struggle more coming into the team after a period out.

[UKIP BEAR 370]

to quote my old manager....."play the game properly and let the ball do the work....the ball never gets tired."

collectively, I don't think theres much wrong with our fitness, although one or two individuals struggle more coming into the team after a period out.

With all due respect mate,thats crap.

In order to be able to keep the ball you need to be fit,you need to be on the move all the time.

Pass n move.

We pass and stand still.

[jack1690 793]

With all due respect mate,thats crap.

In order to be able to keep the ball you need to be fit,you need to be on the move all the time.

Pass n move.

We pass and stand still.

Im pretty shocked that most on here are happy with our fitness. Ian Black was needing oxygen yesterday after an hour, as was Shiels.

If we get past Dunfermline in the cup and get a top tier team in next round we'll get run ragged, fitness-wise.

[bawsburst 1,381]

Southampton FC coach Nick Harvey explains an elite footballer's weekly regime

Footy fitness

Thanks to stratospheric salaries and the indiscretions of certain individuals, professional footballers come in for a lot of abuse. As our breakdown of a typical pro's weekly training regime shows, however, in terms of sheer athleticism they're difficult to criticise. Even after covering over 10km during a game (Rooney clocks in at an average 11.78km), most are back training the next day, and many will get just one day sans workouts a week. Think you can match them? Emulate Capello's finest with this routine.

The regime

"Weekly training programmes vary depending on the training phase (off-season, pre-season or in-season), the number of games in the week, and the individual's training status," says Nick Harvey, first team fitness coach at Southampton FC. "But a typical training week during the season with no midweek game runs something like this."

Saturday

After the match, recovery consists of ice baths and compression tights. The latter are specially made leggings moulded to an individual's physique which promote blood circulation, increase oxygen flow to muscles and wick away sweat.

Sunday

An active recovery session. This might be, cycling for 15-20 minutes at 60% of maximum heart rate.

Monday

Extended Recovery Work: "Sometimes we'll do a light football session or it might be some technical work, but physiologically the focus is still on making sure the players are fully recovered 48 hours after the game, which is often when tiredness and delayed onset muscle soreness (DOMS) sets in," says Harvey. "It's a light day focusing on recovery before the higher intensity stuff on Tuesday and Wednesday."

Tuesday

AM: High intensity football work, such as conditioned small sided games focusing on keeping possession with no goals, or a man-to-man game where you have to stick with one opponent wherever he goes.

PM: Strength and power work. For example, squats, deadlifts, bench-presses and pull-ups (volume and loads are tailored to each player).

Wednesday

AM: Moderate/high intensity football work. Possession drills and 11-versus-11 tactical play.

PM: Power development and complex training. This is a mixture of strength and plyometric work designed to develop explosiveness. The focus is typically on low reps at high speed, such as power cleans (3x4 sets) and hurdle jumps.

Thursday

Rest day.

Friday

Low Intensity football work (focus on tactical preparation) with speed and reaction time training in warm up. For example, short shuttle runs setting off when a man breaks the line or at the blow of a whistle.

Shake it up

Often during the season, of course, teams play three games in the space of a week and so recovery and tactical preparation are prioritised. "Nutrition is key at these times," says Harvey. recovery xs is a key part of our strategy, providing the body with all the key nutrients it needs after matches – and we also use a recovery drink after intense training sessions and whey protein drinks immediately after strength and power work.

Additionally, some players use pulse on match days to deliver a mental boost prior to games and ensure optimum nutrient delivery when it's needed."

Im pretty shocked that most on here are happy with our fitness. Ian Black was needing oxygen yesterday after an hour, as was Shiels.

If we get past Dunfermline in the cup and get a top tier team in next round we'll get run ragged, fitness-wise.

Notice any difference ?