Does anyone in here bet the horses alot?

[Canadaready 9,437]

Want to work on a betting strategy.

[Thermopylae 15,288]

You know I never have ... must be the one thing I have in common with spears

[Jasper 182]

Not alot tbh. Usually jus tplay the placepots- pick a horse from each of the first 6 races in a a meeting, and they place then you get something back. Payout depends on how many winners there are altogether. Its best to avoid picking the favourites, as thats who most people will pick.

Yesterday at Carlisle, the placepot paid £38.80 for every £1, and the fav placed in each of the races except the first.

At Ludlow it paid 265.90 to each £, and there were still 4 favs that placed.

Ive seen the paout at £3 odds, cause all the favourites placed.

[CF5LOYAL 0]

Not alot tbh. Usually jus tplay the placepots- pick a horse from each of the first 6 races in a a meeting, and they place then you get something back. Payout depends on how many winners there are altogether. Its best to avoid picking the favourites, as thats who most people will pick.

Yesterday at Carlisle, the placepot paid £38.80 for every £1, and the fav placed in each of the races except the first.

At Ludlow it paid 265.90 to each £, and there were still 4 favs that placed.

Ive seen the paout at £3 odds, cause all the favourites placed.

My dad puts on the placepot and if there are big priced winners in the 6 races you can get odds of 5000+/1

Only problem with the placepot is if you don't get a place in the 1st race then you are fucked for the rest of it. Like taking an early kick off in the footy.

[Jasper 182]

Not alot tbh. Usually jus tplay the placepots- pick a horse from each of the first 6 races in a a meeting, and they place then you get something back. Payout depends on how many winners there are altogether. Its best to avoid picking the favourites, as thats who most people will pick.

Yesterday at Carlisle, the placepot paid £38.80 for every £1, and the fav placed in each of the races except the first.

At Ludlow it paid 265.90 to each £, and there were still 4 favs that placed.

Ive seen the paout at £3 odds, cause all the favourites placed.

My dad puts on the placepot and if there are big priced winners in the 6 races you can get odds of 5000+/1

Only problem with the placepot is if you don't get a place in the 1st race then you are fucked for the rest of it. Like taking an early kick off in the footy.

Thats the worst part of it, especially if you get a place in the rest of the races. Another down point is picking big priced winners...doesnt count for anything. Yetsreday I got a 12/1 winner, and the day before I picked a 16/1 shot that won. Both counted for fuck all.

First race in one of the meetings yesterday the one I picked was the 50/1 outsider. Dont know how I managed to pick that one out. Think the buggers still trying to finish the race.

[biotechnology 2]

If your doing placepots you need to perm them.

ie

Ascot

1.30 8 runners

2.00 9

2.30 10

3.00 12 **

3.30 18 **

4.00 22 ***

All races with say 10 runners or less just pick one horse-but in the harder ones select a few others & it

works like this.

Firstly, we must decide which meeting to use each day. It is best to stick to just one meeting per day. If there is a choice of meetings then it is usually best not to use the main meeting as this quite often contains races with big, competitive fields, and it makes our job of finding horses to place more difficult. Conversely, the lowest grade meeting of the day, particularly in the flat season, also has its problems. The horses here are often ridden by the poorest standard of jockeys which makes analysis hard. So when presented with a choice of meetings pick the second biggest meeting of the day to work on. If you are uncertain which one this is, then add together the prize values of each race at each meeting. The one with the second highest total will be the one to use.

Having selected our meeting, we now need to make our selections.

To capture the Placepot we are going to use a Placepot perm. This allows us to pick more than one horse in each race. Most bookmakers now supply Placepot perm slips which make entering easier.

To win the pot we need to select a placed horse in each race. Obviously if we had covered say, three horses in every race then our chances are greatly improved. Unfortunately it's not that easy! The more horses we cover in each race, the more costly our bet. To cover three in each of the six races would need 729 bets, ie. 729 times our stake. Too much.

The perm we use in this plan uses 36 lines, at 25p unit stake the bet costs just £9.00. It consists of a single selection in two of the races, two selections in another two races, and three selections in the remaining two races. 1x1x2x2x3x3=36 bets.

Now to make our selections for the perm. If you are an experienced student of form you can add your own knowledge to the selection process, but here we are going to base our selections on S.P. forecasts. Using the morning betting forecasts is a very reliable selection method to use with this plan. Here's what to do:

1. Look at the s.p. forecasts for the six races concerned. Look for the two races with the shortest priced favourites. These will be (hopefully) the most reliable favourites of the day, and even if they don't win, they should place. These act as our "single" entries in the perm.

2. Select the two races with the biggest fields, they are usually big handicap races, and are always the hardest to select winners in. Take the first three horses in the betting forecast in each of these races, they will be our "three" selections in the perm.

3. Obviously in the remaining two races, we use the first two in the betting forecast as our "two" selection elements in the perm.

We now have all the elements for our perm. Don't be fooled into thinking that because the selection method is quick and easy, it is ineffective. If you use it daily you should scoop the Placepot at least once a week.

One last note about which paper to use. I recommend using one of the specialist racing papers as their S.P. forecasts tend to be more accurate, but whichever you use, keep to the same one each day.

[CF5LOYAL 0]

I think we should just pick the horses with the best names

[braveheart 0]

I just draw cards and make 10 $8 dollar bets (2 winners, 2 seconds, 2 thirds for the Triactor)

Yesterday the cards came up 26, 19, 38

I hit a Tri 2-18 that paid $2000 dollars

This was the first hit in about 3 months (I do this alot)

LUCK is the big factor

[Youllneverwinaway 0]

Want to work on a betting strategy.

I bet a lot on horses and ive read many a strategy, none of which actually work. I have a strategy based on the Racing Post and i do ok sometimes and garbage other times.

If I had access to 46656 people who were all willing to risk £10 each, then i have a strategy that could GUARANTEE 1 person from that pile to win approximately £150k but i dont so there you go

7776 people would deliver approx £30k for 1 person.

[Jasper 182]

If your doing placepots you need to perm them.

ie

Ascot

1.30 8 runners

2.00 9

2.30 10

3.00 12 **

3.30 18 **

4.00 22 ***

All races with say 10 runners or less just pick one horse-but in the harder ones select a few others & it

works like this.

Firstly, we must decide which meeting to use each day. It is best to stick to just one meeting per day. If there is a choice of meetings then it is usually best not to use the main meeting as this quite often contains races with big, competitive fields, and it makes our job of finding horses to place more difficult. Conversely, the lowest grade meeting of the day, particularly in the flat season, also has its problems. The horses here are often ridden by the poorest standard of jockeys which makes analysis hard. So when presented with a choice of meetings pick the second biggest meeting of the day to work on. If you are uncertain which one this is, then add together the prize values of each race at each meeting. The one with the second highest total will be the one to use.

Having selected our meeting, we now need to make our selections.

To capture the Placepot we are going to use a Placepot perm. This allows us to pick more than one horse in each race. Most bookmakers now supply Placepot perm slips which make entering easier.

To win the pot we need to select a placed horse in each race. Obviously if we had covered say, three horses in every race then our chances are greatly improved. Unfortunately it's not that easy! The more horses we cover in each race, the more costly our bet. To cover three in each of the six races would need 729 bets, ie. 729 times our stake. Too much.

The perm we use in this plan uses 36 lines, at 25p unit stake the bet costs just £9.00. It consists of a single selection in two of the races, two selections in another two races, and three selections in the remaining two races. 1x1x2x2x3x3=36 bets.

Now to make our selections for the perm. If you are an experienced student of form you can add your own knowledge to the selection process, but here we are going to base our selections on S.P. forecasts. Using the morning betting forecasts is a very reliable selection method to use with this plan. Here's what to do:

1. Look at the s.p. forecasts for the six races concerned. Look for the two races with the shortest priced favourites. These will be (hopefully) the most reliable favourites of the day, and even if they don't win, they should place. These act as our "single" entries in the perm.

2. Select the two races with the biggest fields, they are usually big handicap races, and are always the hardest to select winners in. Take the first three horses in the betting forecast in each of these races, they will be our "three" selections in the perm.

3. Obviously in the remaining two races, we use the first two in the betting forecast as our "two" selection elements in the perm.

We now have all the elements for our perm. Don't be fooled into thinking that because the selection method is quick and easy, it is ineffective. If you use it daily you should scoop the Placepot at least once a week.

One last note about which paper to use. I recommend using one of the specialist racing papers as their S.P. forecasts tend to be more accurate, but whichever you use, keep to the same one each day.

Thats very interesting mate, but I cant imagine much of a payout when you hit it.

1. Look at the s.p. forecasts for the six races concerned. Look for the two races with the shortest priced favourites. These will be (hopefully) the most reliable favourites of the day, and even if they don't win, they should place. These act as our "single" entries in the perm.

See, these are the horses I tend to avoid. Short priced favourites getting turned over give you a better chance of hitting a big prize.

Do you use this system yourself? How has it worked for you?

[biotechnology 2]

If your doing placepots you need to perm them.

ie

Ascot

1.30 8 runners

2.00 9

2.30 10

3.00 12 **

3.30 18 **

4.00 22 ***

All races with say 10 runners or less just pick one horse-but in the harder ones select a few others & it

works like this.

Firstly, we must decide which meeting to use each day. It is best to stick to just one meeting per day. If there is a choice of meetings then it is usually best not to use the main meeting as this quite often contains races with big, competitive fields, and it makes our job of finding horses to place more difficult. Conversely, the lowest grade meeting of the day, particularly in the flat season, also has its problems. The horses here are often ridden by the poorest standard of jockeys which makes analysis hard. So when presented with a choice of meetings pick the second biggest meeting of the day to work on. If you are uncertain which one this is, then add together the prize values of each race at each meeting. The one with the second highest total will be the one to use.

Having selected our meeting, we now need to make our selections.

To capture the Placepot we are going to use a Placepot perm. This allows us to pick more than one horse in each race. Most bookmakers now supply Placepot perm slips which make entering easier.

To win the pot we need to select a placed horse in each race. Obviously if we had covered say, three horses in every race then our chances are greatly improved. Unfortunately it's not that easy! The more horses we cover in each race, the more costly our bet. To cover three in each of the six races would need 729 bets, ie. 729 times our stake. Too much.

The perm we use in this plan uses 36 lines, at 25p unit stake the bet costs just £9.00. It consists of a single selection in two of the races, two selections in another two races, and three selections in the remaining two races. 1x1x2x2x3x3=36 bets.

Now to make our selections for the perm. If you are an experienced student of form you can add your own knowledge to the selection process, but here we are going to base our selections on S.P. forecasts. Using the morning betting forecasts is a very reliable selection method to use with this plan. Here's what to do:

1. Look at the s.p. forecasts for the six races concerned. Look for the two races with the shortest priced favourites. These will be (hopefully) the most reliable favourites of the day, and even if they don't win, they should place. These act as our "single" entries in the perm.

2. Select the two races with the biggest fields, they are usually big handicap races, and are always the hardest to select winners in. Take the first three horses in the betting forecast in each of these races, they will be our "three" selections in the perm.

3. Obviously in the remaining two races, we use the first two in the betting forecast as our "two" selection elements in the perm.

We now have all the elements for our perm. Don't be fooled into thinking that because the selection method is quick and easy, it is ineffective. If you use it daily you should scoop the Placepot at least once a week.

One last note about which paper to use. I recommend using one of the specialist racing papers as their S.P. forecasts tend to be more accurate, but whichever you use, keep to the same one each day.

Thats very interesting mate, but I cant imagine much of a payout when you hit it.

1. Look at the s.p. forecasts for the six races concerned. Look for the two races with the shortest priced favourites. These will be (hopefully) the most reliable favourites of the day, and even if they don't win, they should place. These act as our "single" entries in the perm.

See, these are the horses I tend to avoid. Short priced favourites getting turned over give you a better chance of hitting a big prize.

Do you use this system yourself? How has it worked for you?

used to do them about 10 years ago & had a few lifts but then started my own business

& never had the time to study.

There was an old guy who used to drink in the Cawburn Inn, Pumpherston who was barred for winning too many placepots from the only bookies in town-Corals.

I asked him how he done it as we used to go in for a few after work & he said "if I had a pound for the amount of people who asked me this-I wouldnt need to bet-I discovered it thru study & its all there for anyone else to see & also if another ten people knew-it would make the pool worth less-all I will say is top weights are the best horses in the race.

He had a plan=a cunning one at that & it involved horses further up the weights-I dont know much else than that-sorry

[Dado 334]

My Grandad passed away the other week there, he loved and loathed betting the horses because he had the most awful luck in the world.

At his funeral the minister said that when asked where he wanted his ashes scattered when he died he replied:

"I want them scattered in Willie Carsons eyes!"

Ive never seen people laugh at a funeral but I did that day, a little off topic but I thought I would share it with you!

[TommyShortshirt 0]

When everyone is betting on the favourite, go for an outsider.

It aint worth backing if it odds on anyway.

[Jasper 182]

Gonna do a couple of placepots tomorrow. The first 2 races at Newbury are maiden's with 17+ runners so I will be leaving that meeting alone.

for the first time i'll be picking more than 1 horse in each leg, so bets will be smaller. Im incorporating the top weight factor as mentioned above- and will also (again, for the first time) include short priced favourites.

Aintree-

1)1,2

2)1,5

3)1,3

4)1

5)1,2,8

6)1,10

(48 lines)

Doncaster-

1)1

2)1,7,16

3)10

4)5,7

5)1,2

6)2,7

(24 lines)

[Jasper 182]

Couple of non runners at Aintree so changed the picks-

Aintree-

1)1,3

2)1,5

3)1,4

4)1

5)1,2,8

6)1,10

(48 lines)

[Jasper 182]

Odds on favourite turned over at the first at Ascot and the full card now ruined

[Jasper 182]

Aintree-

1)1,2

2)1,5

3)1,3

4)1

5)1,2,8

6)1,10

(48 lines)

Doncaster-

1)1

2)1,7,16

3)10

4)5,7

5)1,2

6)2,7

(24 lines)

Wow. At Doncaster, I was only unplaced in one of the races. The placepot paid 1055.40 Very, very close.

In fact in the 2nd, all 3 of my picks placed @ 13/2, 12/1 and 12/1. the forecast paid £70.20

Was unplaced in 2 at Aintree, but its only paid £50 so not too bothered.

[Jasper 182]

Fuck sake just remembered that the unplaced horse in that race at Donny was the odds on I had picked, was winning but then seemed to drop back very quickly which according to the racing post, meant "something was amiss"

Granted if it had placed then the placepot wouldnt have been as high, but still....

bastard.