LucyBlue

Agreed, however some players know what loyalty is matt le tissier, steve bull, robbie fowler (who got pushed) etc, you can always chase the money which is fine if your commitments are mortgages, rates etc but you aint goning to go short playing for rangers and to leave its either money or what you consider further sucess. Look at wayne rooney, my heros would be matt le tissier, steve bull, robbie fowler if they played for my team not rooney types. You think Hutton was disloyal?

Oh the same was said of Hutton only one year ago. In fact, worse.... So many wished a cool sounding foreign name in his place then. What has Broadfoot done wrong? He's played in many European ties and we are where we are. Never a failure in my eyes. Whittaker was excellent with Hibs.....he often looks scared at Gers. For the investment we made, he deserves a little time IMO. I get the feeling if it was Kirk Van Broadfoot or Steven De La Whittaker then all would be well with some supporters with similar performances. It's sadly similar in a way to why Hutton still had his uber critics to the end. You don't know what you've got till it's gone, indeed.

You seriously believe Hutton wanted to move?

I truly believe Kirk will become a great Rangers player. That's not blind sycophancy....that's observation. To think he is not even playing in his natural/experienced position. I believe he is (and will prove to be) an absolute gem. Some may find scorn in this but those of old will recall I lauded Hutton similar when he was a running joke for many. I ALWAYS thought Svensson was very poor. Therefore, I am confident in what I say re. Kirk.

3.8 m Euros quoted....£2.5m pounds. Reaching the last 8 has given us significant financial rewards....make no mistake.

Euro sucess turning out bad? Millions of pounds in revenue, players who are going commanding a higher price. A better quality of players wanting to sign for us next season. U mad? You missed his point. I haven't. Keegan and other onlookers can't afford players like Fergie because they aren't for sale. Any players we sell will surely attain a higher price if we do well in Europe. You haven't this time. I hope you're right then. I really do.

It was actually the 1992/93 season to be exact but I didn't anticipate such pendantry. I thought the fact the final games were in 93 was enough.

Euro sucess turning out bad? Millions of pounds in revenue, players who are going commanding a higher price. A better quality of players wanting to sign for us next season. U mad? You missed his point.

That is up to Martin Bain. Sadly.

Jiminez, I agree with you, Charlie is a good player but is still young and at times makes the wrong decisions in games and when you play for Rangers you are not allowed to do that. If only our supporters would realise what it is like out there one the field, with the pace of the game, the pressure, making split second decisions when you don't have the luxury or the time to see see the whole pitch and make a measured pass then you have to make allowances. Give the guy a break FFS. Potentially wise words indeed..... Many youngsters though display such attributes consistently in world football. How old do you become before you stop giving allowances? Ferguson was excellent and far more consistent at a younger age. Ronaldo, Messi? Dare I say it, McGeady? Age is often used as an escapism for poor performances. Charlie was very poor tonight. His age doesn't come into it. I wish him well and see a good player deep within there but it's more to do with fitness, desire and attitude rather than age with Charlie IMO. Comparing him to fans is bizarre. We are not paid to be professional footballers though we view them often and as such have a measured opinion of worth.

5 times he booted the ball straight out the park. Thats poor kicking. His punt outs were too long and were easy for the Bremen back line. True. And? He never got a ten after all. A better goalkeeping display in Europe this season I've yet to see. I really don't care about his kicks...but they weren't great admittedly. So I think a nine is fair, don't you?

Agreed ,Charlie has the talent and judging by this thread hes also got the character as well given the amount of bears that slag him off yet he stays silently dignified If i was him i tell you all to fuck off ,give the guy a break ,how many of you where complaining when he made a fanny out of that wanker boruc at ibrox,none and thats not a guess thats a fact. Squad is begining to get stretched at the business end of the season and slagging of our players isnt going to do any good ,get behind the players .Iv seen so many posts on here tonight proclaiming brothers in arms etc but this thread make me think otherwise. I do rather like Charlie Adam. As I said, he is the best striker of a ball in our team. I'd love him to do well. I wish he'd get 100% fit though..... It is clear he fades in games...if he could maintain his fitness for 90 mins, he'd be a gem more often than not.

In the context of the match I can't find fault with those scores. Perhaps generous to the midfielders but they knew what they had to do. With regards to McGregors's kicking, it was clear he was told not to put it central due to the height of the opposition's central defence. The fact that they went somewhat wayward occasionally then was not really a fault of his kicking - rarely would a goalkeeper be given such an instruction. Again, a fact that we had clear tactics, even if they did not pay off all the time.

At the moment it's the only strength we have. It's the best strength to have in football.

Apart from the games that the luck was not there and we and Scotland lost. There is no such thing as 'luck'. Scotland weren't good enough in the end. We'll see how Rangers do. I tend to think this UEFA campaign is at least a year too early (in respect to our team) and I suspect Walter would agree. Don't give me luck though as a reason we're where we are. Lucky would be if a pigeon deflected a misplaced shot into the net for us...everything else is pure football.

Yes he was abysmal tonight...and yes, Barry was dire. In Barry's case that is rare though and he clearly was given extra attention once more by the opposition. Until we have an individual who can strike a ball better than Adam in the team then he will always have his worth. Whether that says more about the others or Adam is up to debate. Had we an Albertz of old then this league would be a stroll... We don't, so Adam is the next best bet... He either improves in consistency or we dedicate ourselves in finding a player who can cleanly strike a ball with power. I wonder if Cousin is any good at free kicks.......

It was never 'anti-football' when Scotland played it...in fact we (Scotland) were lauded to the skies. As said before...it is playing to your strengths, minimising your weaknesess. Oh and it's winning football also.

Late night Loyal? There is still Badger.... Coopermania? Such nonsense talks we had.

The ironic thing is, despite all the adulation, he is all-round, clearly superior to 'jazz hands' Boruc (decent shot stopper though he is)...in simple goalkeeping terms. As for Gordon, they're on a par right now IMO.

My view.... Were that an Italian team they'd be praised for their professionalism. There was a simple job to be done. And it was done.

This one? I've no idea exactly how many posts I had, 3000ish?... It doesn't really matter but it would be nice to have them back.

Rangers European 'credibilty' was long on the wane before Walter Smith entered Ibrox. The myth that he somehow reduced it is simply that, a myth. Perhaps it is because he made us a more successful team in Scotland, but in Europe, we stayed more or less the same as before his original tenure. Bar '93 of course. But those who tend to knock his European record tend to forget that year or worse, dismiss it as a fluke. He did NOT decimate our European credibility in any sense. That is simply a fact.

Welcome to RM Luce Thanks but I was here before. Took a year off the net (more or less) to concentrate on my degree. Any chance of getting my several thousand posts back? Tis ok..I'll make them up. So good to be talking about success rather than debating the merits of PLG. Tut tut Jadams...I talked to you a lot as well. Rings a bell now Lucy_blue was your original name? Indeed it was.

Welcome to RM Luce Thanks but I was here before. Took a year off the net (more or less) to concentrate on my degree. Any chance of getting my several thousand posts back? Tis ok..I'll make them up. So good to be talking about success rather than debating the merits of PLG. Tut tut Jadams...I talked to you a lot as well.

Words cannot express how good those vids are to watch. Truly emotional stuff. My thanks.