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i accept thats your opinion mate but for a start .... it doesnt take a rocket scientist to work out why the focus was on the commotion at picadilly - thats where the screens went down and the trouble kicked off 1% or 100% is irrelevant, the fact is it happened and there should be no excuses - these tits that rioted have destroyed the reputation of our club and there is no honour in arguing that The Sun got there facts wrong just makes it more unbelievable that trouble erupted before we got beat - also if you check the timing on the CCTV footage the majority of the battling with the cops was after the game hence the headlines if they hadnt rioted there wouldnt have been the headlines - simple as that doesnt matter a f*ck that the screens went down - that doesnt give anybody the right to throw bottles at fans and police, start fighting, charging etc i imagine the loss of picaddily gardens was the Police's worst nightmare and certainly not their fault we werent happy at the prospect of missing the game but reacted in a civil manner, moaned like f*ck and worked on a plan B which meant we managed to catch 65mins of the match and didnt disgrace the club and/or get truncheoned whilst you might have had a fantastic experience that aint gonna sell newspapers! instead of trying to point fingers at others, deflect blame or pick out errors in news reports lets look at the overall picture, realise that the mindless majority have f*cked it right up, concentrate in ensuring this never gets repeated - provoked or not and start rebuilding our now tarnished reputation this should have been a moment to bask in - win or lose - and we've blew it they should be ashamed and thats FACT

some folk need to take their blue tinted specs off and accept that most of the accounts of events are honest observations yes, there will be wind up merchants but the vast majority of the stories on this, and other boards, will be a true record of what happended the make up of rangers fans is no different to that in society, ie there will be an element of moronic arseholes bottom line is when you get so many people crammed into one area there will be problems, add drink and its a firecracker waiting to go off and the faulty screen lit the fuse HOWEVER, there is absolutely no defence for what happened: as the topic posted stated there were bottles and cans, full cans at that, being thrown amongst the fans a full can of beer launched 40 feet up into the air will have the same effect as a lobbed brick on the poor bastard on the receiving end i saw one guy launch a f*cking back pack with cans in it high into the crowd, and all of this happened BEFORE it became obvious that the screen wasnt working these are fellow rangers fans for christ sake as for taking a piss, there was little option as Manchester authorities thought it would be a good idea to stick the portaloos all in the one corner at Picadilly Gardens, instead of placing them at each corner - and just to make matters worse the location they did choose was right next to one of the busy entry points given it was taking an hour and a half to get to the bogs folk had little choice but to relieve themselves but this is where the morons set themselves apart any decent human being, sober or not, would try and be descrete, use your flag or borrow someones or get your mates to cover you while you piss into an empty bottle that way you're: a. not waving your cock about when there are women and children around and b. your not splashing urine over fellow supporters empty or discard the bottle discretely - not ideal i know but better than disgracing yourself in public its all about doing the right thing and unfortunately some havent got a clue how to conduct themselves and have little regard for others conditions and circumstance weren't great but we've let ourselves down big time and i for one am extremely disappointed thursday's headlines should have been all about the football team AND not the fans hard lines Walter and the lads, your efforts were greatly appreciated, its a pity an element of the support lack your dignity

your links not working whats the hotel/apartment name? we've got tuesday booked but cant get anywhere on the wednesday evening i'll maybe try them on the unlikley off chance

try the Britannia Hotel in the City Centre mate we got 3 twin rooms for the tuesday night (breakfast included) and it would seem its about 5mins malk max. from proposed fan zone in picadilly gardens not sure if they'll have rooms available on the tuesday now but they had quite a few left at the weekend good luck :bouncy:

this is really starting to get on my tits surley whoever it is in Manchester who is responsible for this kind of thing must arrange for showing the game on big f*ck off screens id imagine the pubs, grateful as they might be for all the punters, will be pushing for this as well as there is a fine line between being busy and making money and losing complete control - no matter how well behaved fans are, if you squeeze in 200% of the intended capacity the place will get damaged we went to dortmond a few years back for a scotland game and the place was heaving, you couldnt actually move in pubs and guys were bringing their own crates of beer in to the pubs anybody got any insider knowledge of what might be in the pipeline? at the very least surely Cinemas could open up and charge say £10 to show the game reckon we'll need all the help we can get to see the bloody thing! was mention in a sunday paper(cant remember which) that there was a area 30mins from stadium which was showing on big screens but it was a ticket affair - anybody any idea is this is true and where the f*ck it is?

6 of us heading down tuesday morning in people carrier, staying in Manchestercity centre Britannia hotel on the 13th May, we all get drunk tuesday night designated driver stays sober, the rest have a drink on Wednesday, watch the match (somewhere), drive back up the road on wednsday night thought being if we win it'll be f*ckin great journey back up the road, if we lose we'll want to get home asap anyway think the britannia hotel still has rooms left on the tuesday night if anybody fancies doing the same :unionflag:

I think you are thinking of Zizkov mate, in 2002-03 when we got knocked out in the first round of Europe and went on to win the treble. We got beaten 2-0 away and beat them 2-0 after 90 mins at Ibrox and lost on away goals after extra time as we both scored one more goal. forgot about that one till you mentioned it - Klos nearly scored from a corner in the 119th min if my memory serves me right one of the most exciting euro games ive been at ibrox for, pity we got put out showing my age here, i was thinking about the game way back in 1991 - think it was an own goal that put us out - we won 2-1 but a goal in extra time f*cked us right up either way, still sh*te ! unless we go thro' on thursday after extra time - then i'll no give a f*ck about the rule :bouncy:

something which has always p*ssed me off about the away goals rule (although we could benefit next thursday) is how the away goals rule still counts in extra time which aint fair on the home team why should the away team gain an advantage merely from the luck of the draw like i said, we can benefit from this stupid rule next week but i seem to remember we got turfed out by sparta prague(?) at home a number of years ago because of it

anybody know if there any bars in Playa Blanca/Puero Rubicon, Lanzarote which show Setanta as im flying out on thursday and will miss the old firm match otherwise whenever i search on google i always seem to come up with is irish bars which clearly aint my first choice for watching an old firm game any leads will be greatly appreciated

enough with all this 'the white cafu' nonsense if we are going to liken hutton to the best ever full back in the world then at least come up with a tag which: a. rhymes and b. makes reference to the gers so i reckon alan hutton should be known from now on as 'THE BLUE CAFU' :bouncy: also means if he goes through a poor spell then the taigs cannae change the nickname from 'the white cafu' to 'the sh*te cafu'

match at the weekend ? rangers aint playing at the weekend so it'll just be swallying............... you could always fill in your time in between swallying with some 'constructive' whinging on this board least you'll not be wasting your weekend, eh!

has been reprimanded as he has actually been causing problems ? almost all of us are completely in the dark regards what has actually happened and i for one am prepared to accept the managers decision unless there is evidence to the contrary PLG would have to be a complete retard to get rid of someone who is obviously one of our better players and so highly thought of by most fans......................... given his managerial pedigree (notwithstanding his first 5 months which reasonable fans probably expected given the disaster of last season) i do not believe this to be the case and i can only assume Ferguson has been acting in a manner not befitting of a captain this may well explain PLG's comments concerning the importance(or lack of) of the arm band - it could have been a warning to Ferguson that we wasnt as untouchable as he thought he was it may also explain why the team has failed to produce the goods recently......you can be the best player in the world and still f*ck up the collective team - lets face it we havent really played any better with Ferguson back in the team and im sure results reflect this (although i dont have the stats to support this - just a feeling i have having watched the recent crud) im sure i'll get some pelters but only trying to apply rational