ShootSpeedKillLight 0 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 On the basis of footballing ability, Ferguson should be nowhere near the team. McGregor's case is different because he's a better player than Alexander, but GK isn't a position you want to chop and change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kplfishtank 4,668 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 on a serious point 1..fergy WAS a great player,but he left whilst captain..who else would do that ? 2..he disrespected 2 rangers managers on his return 3..he disrespected rangers fans 4..he disrespected a Scotland manager 5..his behaviour as our captain is shocking think of Gough,Amoruso,Greig etc. 6..fighting in the street his first time around 7..he cant converse with the media properly 8..he has a clique at Ibrox 9..since he came back Mendes has fallen away,but he will pick up again if Davis is put beside him and he was playing badly we have given him far,far too many chances. McGregor i would give another chance to..but it wont happen as Barry would rightly claim discrimination. they should therefore both go. nobody is bigger than the club. they wouldnt be the first to be "sin died". however if Smith is leaving,he may swallow his pride,so that the new guy has options.but he shouldnt,cos Barry,will,by his track record,direspect him too. point 1 did gough not leave gers as captain point 4 ive no intrest in scotland so how he treats the manager will not reflect on how i see him as a ranger point 5 amoruso spat on a player and called another a black bas***d but you use him as an example of good behaviour point 6 defending yourself from attack isnt a problem in my eyes point 8 if he has a clique how do you know about it point 9 unproven mendes might be just as pish with davis as hes been with fergie other than that i cant disagree with you on pt 1..who bought Gough ?,i thought he retired on 4..the point is he disrespects his bosses,whoever they are on 6..out in a rangers related top on 8..ask the monster munch brigade and PLG on 9..Mendes was good with Thommo,before Barry was accomodated..but you are right,its just an opinion..but i think its a judged one. 1 gough went to states then came back then left again to play for notts forest and everton 6 couldnt care less if hes wearing a tutu he has the right to defend himself from sectarian attack 9maybe we need to drop mendes and play fergie with davis(as unproven as your suggestion) i noticed youve left out point 5 as i would say if rangers were taking moral high ground amoruso should have been out the door for rascist behaviour and vile behaviour but you think hes a good role model Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
numansnewman 25 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 on a serious point 1..fergy WAS a great player,but he left whilst captain..who else would do that ? 2..he disrespected 2 rangers managers on his return 3..he disrespected rangers fans 4..he disrespected a Scotland manager 5..his behaviour as our captain is shocking think of Gough,Amoruso,Greig etc. 6..fighting in the street his first time around 7..he cant converse with the media properly 8..he has a clique at Ibrox 9..since he came back Mendes has fallen away,but he will pick up again if Davis is put beside him and he was playing badly we have given him far,far too many chances. McGregor i would give another chance to..but it wont happen as Barry would rightly claim discrimination. they should therefore both go. nobody is bigger than the club. they wouldnt be the first to be "sin died". however if Smith is leaving,he may swallow his pride,so that the new guy has options.but he shouldnt,cos Barry,will,by his track record,direspect him too. point 1 did gough not leave gers as captain point 4 ive no intrest in scotland so how he treats the manager will not reflect on how i see him as a ranger point 5 amoruso spat on a player and called another a black bas***d but you use him as an example of good behaviour point 6 defending yourself from attack isnt a problem in my eyes point 8 if he has a clique how do you know about it point 9 unproven mendes might be just as pish with davis as hes been with fergie other than that i cant disagree with you on pt 1..who bought Gough ?,i thought he retired on 4..the point is he disrespects his bosses,whoever they are on 6..out in a rangers related top on 8..ask the monster munch brigade and PLG on 9..Mendes was good with Thommo,before Barry was accomodated..but you are right,its just an opinion..but i think its a judged one. 1 gough went to states then came back then left again to play for notts forest and everton 6 couldnt care less if hes wearing a tutu he has the right to defend himself from sectarian attack 9maybe we need to drop mendes and play fergie with davis(as unproven as your suggestion) i noticed youve left out point 5 as i would say if rangers were taking moral high ground amoruso should have been out the door for rascist behaviour and vile behaviour but you think hes a good role model 1..gough was finished..and went for his and our good 6..out at 11pm wearing something that he must have known would rile folk..very poor judgement 9..mendes goes forwards..barry doesnt he made 1 mistake..how many has Barry had ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomberbrown 10 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 on a serious point 1..fergy WAS a great player,but he left whilst captain..who else would do that ? 2..he disrespected 2 rangers managers on his return 3..he disrespected rangers fans 4..he disrespected a Scotland manager 5..his behaviour as our captain is shocking think of Gough,Amoruso,Greig etc. 6..fighting in the street his first time around 7..he cant converse with the media properly 8..he has a clique at Ibrox 9..since he came back Mendes has fallen away,but he will pick up again if Davis is put beside him and he was playing badly we have given him far,far too many chances. McGregor i would give another chance to..but it wont happen as Barry would rightly claim discrimination. they should therefore both go. nobody is bigger than the club. they wouldnt be the first to be "sin died". however if Smith is leaving,he may swallow his pride,so that the new guy has options.but he shouldnt,cos Barry,will,by his track record,direspect him too. point 1 did gough not leave gers as captain point 4 ive no intrest in scotland so how he treats the manager will not reflect on how i see him as a ranger point 5 amoruso spat on a player and called another a black bas***d but you use him as an example of good behaviour point 6 defending yourself from attack isnt a problem in my eyes point 8 if he has a clique how do you know about it point 9 unproven mendes might be just as pish with davis as hes been with fergie other than that i cant disagree with you on pt 1..who bought Gough ?,i thought he retired on 4..the point is he disrespects his bosses,whoever they are on 6..out in a rangers related top on 8..ask the monster munch brigade and PLG on 9..Mendes was good with Thommo,before Barry was accomodated..but you are right,its just an opinion..but i think its a judged one. good comeback are you a lawyer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kplfishtank 4,668 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 on a serious point 1..fergy WAS a great player,but he left whilst captain..who else would do that ? 2..he disrespected 2 rangers managers on his return 3..he disrespected rangers fans 4..he disrespected a Scotland manager 5..his behaviour as our captain is shocking think of Gough,Amoruso,Greig etc. 6..fighting in the street his first time around 7..he cant converse with the media properly 8..he has a clique at Ibrox 9..since he came back Mendes has fallen away,but he will pick up again if Davis is put beside him and he was playing badly we have given him far,far too many chances. McGregor i would give another chance to..but it wont happen as Barry would rightly claim discrimination. they should therefore both go. nobody is bigger than the club. they wouldnt be the first to be "sin died". however if Smith is leaving,he may swallow his pride,so that the new guy has options.but he shouldnt,cos Barry,will,by his track record,direspect him too. point 1 did gough not leave gers as captain point 4 ive no intrest in scotland so how he treats the manager will not reflect on how i see him as a ranger point 5 amoruso spat on a player and called another a black bas***d but you use him as an example of good behaviour point 6 defending yourself from attack isnt a problem in my eyes point 8 if he has a clique how do you know about it point 9 unproven mendes might be just as pish with davis as hes been with fergie other than that i cant disagree with you on pt 1..who bought Gough ?,i thought he retired on 4..the point is he disrespects his bosses,whoever they are on 6..out in a rangers related top on 8..ask the monster munch brigade and PLG on 9..Mendes was good with Thommo,before Barry was accomodated..but you are right,its just an opinion..but i think its a judged one. 1 gough went to states then came back then left again to play for notts forest and everton 6 couldnt care less if hes wearing a tutu he has the right to defend himself from sectarian attack 9maybe we need to drop mendes and play fergie with davis(as unproven as your suggestion) i noticed youve left out point 5 as i would say if rangers were taking moral high ground amoruso should have been out the door for rascist behaviour and vile behaviour but you think hes a good role model 1..gough was finished..and went for his and our good 6..out at 11pm wearing something that he must have known would rile folk..very poor judgement 9..mendes goes forwards..barry doesnt he made 1 mistake..how many has Barry had ? gough played 24 more games for rangers then 38 for everton in premiership not bad for a guy that was finished he spat on james grady and verbally abused victor ikpeaba i would say thats worse than anything barry has done but you dont so we will agree to disagree if barry dosent go forward how come he scored against hearts and hamilton recently and now wearing rangers attire make you think that we are all allowed to get a slap cause it riles folk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Edu did more in the 15 minutes he was on the park, than McCulloch did in the 75 at Falkirk the other week. McCulloch broke up play on a massive two occassions, he played a number of miss-placed balls, lost out in the air and chased shadows, especially in the 2nd half. He was woeful until his injury flared up. This is what i was trying to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayboleLoyal_atb 3,772 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Edu did more in the 15 minutes he was on the park, than McCulloch did in the 75 at Falkirk the other week. McCulloch broke up play on a massive two occassions, he played a number of miss-placed balls, lost out in the air and chased shadows, especially in the 2nd half. He was woeful until his injury flared up. This is what i was trying to say. You didn't though bud, you said all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Edu did more in the 15 minutes he was on the park, than McCulloch did in the 75 at Falkirk the other week. McCulloch broke up play on a massive two occassions, he played a number of miss-placed balls, lost out in the air and chased shadows, especially in the 2nd half. He was woeful until his injury flared up. This is what i was trying to say. You didn't though bud, you said all season. That too. I can't really recall anything of note McCulloch has done all season! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayboleLoyal_atb 3,772 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Edu did more in the 15 minutes he was on the park, than McCulloch did in the 75 at Falkirk the other week. McCulloch broke up play on a massive two occassions, he played a number of miss-placed balls, lost out in the air and chased shadows, especially in the 2nd half. He was woeful until his injury flared up. This is what i was trying to say. You didn't though bud, you said all season. That too. I can't really recall anything of note McCulloch has done all season! And I can't think of anything of note that Edu done in that spell on the park. I am in no way saying McCulloch is a better player than Edu, just your statement I don't agree with. Its surely obvious that he would have made more tackles, more headers, more passes in 13 or so games this season than a player did in 1o/15 minutes on a park? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Edu did more in the 15 minutes he was on the park, than McCulloch did in the 75 at Falkirk the other week. McCulloch broke up play on a massive two occassions, he played a number of miss-placed balls, lost out in the air and chased shadows, especially in the 2nd half. He was woeful until his injury flared up. This is what i was trying to say. You didn't though bud, you said all season. That too. I can't really recall anything of note McCulloch has done all season! And I can't think of anything of note that Edu done in that spell on the park. I am in no way saying McCulloch is a better player than Edu, just your statement I don't agree with. Its surely obvious that he would have made more tackles, more headers, more passes in 13 or so games this season than a player did in 1o/15 minutes on a park? I wasn't saying that literally to be honest Maybole, i was just exaggerating to make a point, something we all do. The point being that Edu should not be dropped for McCulloch when he's back from injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayboleLoyal_atb 3,772 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Edu did more in the 15 minutes he was on the park, than McCulloch did in the 75 at Falkirk the other week. McCulloch broke up play on a massive two occassions, he played a number of miss-placed balls, lost out in the air and chased shadows, especially in the 2nd half. He was woeful until his injury flared up. This is what i was trying to say. You didn't though bud, you said all season. That too. I can't really recall anything of note McCulloch has done all season! And I can't think of anything of note that Edu done in that spell on the park. I am in no way saying McCulloch is a better player than Edu, just your statement I don't agree with. Its surely obvious that he would have made more tackles, more headers, more passes in 13 or so games this season than a player did in 1o/15 minutes on a park? I wasn't saying that literally to be honest Maybole, i was just exaggerating to make a point, something we all do. The point being that Edu should not be dropped for McCulloch when he's back from injury. Of course he shouldn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Edu did more in the 15 minutes he was on the park, than McCulloch did in the 75 at Falkirk the other week. McCulloch broke up play on a massive two occassions, he played a number of miss-placed balls, lost out in the air and chased shadows, especially in the 2nd half. He was woeful until his injury flared up. This is what i was trying to say. You didn't though bud, you said all season. That too. I can't really recall anything of note McCulloch has done all season! And I can't think of anything of note that Edu done in that spell on the park. I am in no way saying McCulloch is a better player than Edu, just your statement I don't agree with. Its surely obvious that he would have made more tackles, more headers, more passes in 13 or so games this season than a player did in 1o/15 minutes on a park? I wasn't saying that literally to be honest Maybole, i was just exaggerating to make a point, something we all do. The point being that Edu should not be dropped for McCulloch when he's back from injury. Of course he shouldn't. Good to see that we agree on something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macka1990 0 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 they should be conidered again now and if people do not perform and they do (in training) they should be given a chance again that is how it should be at rangers, players playing well in order to keep there position lets see if this inspires edu and mendes alexander to up there game and try and keep there places Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
airdrieloyal1 6 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 dont want them back 2 scum bags Away and service your sister Declan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvager 498 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Well it may inspire the players like Edu and Alexander or it may just piss them off and the team generally. Time will tell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Life long ban from Scotland, stripped of the captaincy - 2 week suspension is all punishment enough for 2 incidents blown out of all proportion. If they are available to play its then up to the manager to pick them or otherwise - me I would have them both straight back in the team. Edu has NOT shown enough to be in front of McCollough - never mind in front of Fergie, and while Alexander has done little wrong I think McGregor is the better keeper and with better distribution - so I would have him in. I'd rather Edu than Ferguson. When was the last time Fergie won a ball in the air in midfield? Edu looks hungry and attacks the ball. Has shown good glimpses of picking out a pass as well. When was the last time Edu won a tackle - I dont think he made ONE against Motherwelll - the game flew by him and he was a passenger - even McCulloch is better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Who the fuck is McCollough? Some of us on here cant spell - some have dyslexia - and some are sanctimonious. Guess which category I place you in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosio 2 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 is Walter being more intelligent than we're giving him credit for?...Fergie and MCshagger's market value will only drop if they don't kick a ball between now and when the summer transfer window opens. If they come back in, they'll have a point to prove and hopefully, only enhance their current value...then they are both sold in the summer? I agree with majority though...don't want either of them playing for the club again...disgrace and too full of their own importance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leiper 0 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Life long ban from Scotland, stripped of the captaincy - 2 week suspension is all punishment enough for 2 incidents blown out of all proportion. If they are available to play its then up to the manager to pick them or otherwise - me I would have them both straight back in the team. Edu has NOT shown enough to be in front of McCollough - never mind in front of Fergie, and while Alexander has done little wrong I think McGregor is the better keeper and with better distribution - so I would have him in. I'd rather Edu than Ferguson. When was the last time Fergie won a ball in the air in midfield? Edu looks hungry and attacks the ball. Has shown good glimpses of picking out a pass as well. When was the last time Edu won a tackle - I dont think he made ONE against Motherwelll - the game flew by him and he was a passenger - even McCulloch is better. 8 days ago against St Mirren...Next question? The point I am making is Edu has looked better in midfield in his last three games than what McCulloch has at any point this season. He has offered more in his last three games than what Barry has for the majority of this season. Barry walking straight back into the squad is no punishment. He'll continue to think he's Mr Rangers and won't realise he needs to up his game. But I guess if you think Barry has been performing extremely well then yeh, throw him in. Let him dominate the midfield like he used to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
numansnewman 25 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 on a serious point 1..fergy WAS a great player,but he left whilst captain..who else would do that ? 2..he disrespected 2 rangers managers on his return 3..he disrespected rangers fans 4..he disrespected a Scotland manager 5..his behaviour as our captain is shocking think of Gough,Amoruso,Greig etc. 6..fighting in the street his first time around 7..he cant converse with the media properly 8..he has a clique at Ibrox 9..since he came back Mendes has fallen away,but he will pick up again if Davis is put beside him and he was playing badly we have given him far,far too many chances. McGregor i would give another chance to..but it wont happen as Barry would rightly claim discrimination. they should therefore both go. nobody is bigger than the club. they wouldnt be the first to be "sin died". however if Smith is leaving,he may swallow his pride,so that the new guy has options.but he shouldnt,cos Barry,will,by his track record,direspect him too. is my very last point valid ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Who the fuck is McCollough? Some of us on here cant spell - some have dyslexia - and some are sanctimonious. Guess which category I place you in? Do you just enjoy being annoying? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
numansnewman 25 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 No ok..GCL..why ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Walter ain't going anywhere for a start.....one more year unless the chairman flies south....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
numansnewman 25 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Walter ain't going anywhere for a start.....one more year unless the chairman flies south....... im more certain than ever he has DECIDED to go. Barry will have to run out behind Weir "if" he plays Smith has let his authority go forever and he has sacrificed his standards. but he has Rangers at heart...plus financial implications of a "banned" player but Barry is now bigger than all.. and look at his history as per my previous posts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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