weshallnotbemoved! 714 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 1330701254' post='1059827171']Rangers pools did make rangers a lot of money and did help build the stadium but i think you are over egging that pie.Him staying silent if he knew what was going on makes him as culpable as anyone else (if true)Two shots across the bow (one timed to cause rangers trouble) does not make him one fo the good guys, far from it.Yes, just as culpable. Not the way to run a business...even if it does make money at some point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosesMcNeil 1,664 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 because I know what went on.So, did Adam sink millions into the club or not?That'll be easy for you with all that insider knowledge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 So, did Adam sink millions into the club or not?That'll be easy for you with all that insider knowledge.he raised many many millions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash07 26 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 We're under siege and from here, it's not looking good. Shit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosesMcNeil 1,664 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 he raised many many millions.That wasn't my question. As well you know.Did Adam pour millions into the club? You, after all, are the one making the claim he 'practically paid for the stadium we sit in'.I'm saying he did nothing of the kind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 with him being a Murray critic it safe to say you were never likely to be a fan.I'm speaking as a Rangers fan... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 That wasn't my question. As well you know.Did Adam pour millions into the club? You, after all, are the one making the claim he 'practically paid for the stadium we sit in'.I'm saying he did nothing of the kind.he did.your thinking I used the word personally. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I'm speaking as a Rangers fan...everyone has different perspectives even as rangers fans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 he did.your thinking I used the word personally.So did martin bain then Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 So did martin bain then did what? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djw1991 0 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I've met Hugh Adam quite a few times, he's a really lovely man who was treated horribly by Murray.It takes guts to come out like this, he knew Murray was up to no good and when he spoke out against it was forced out and banned from Ibrox.Oh, and he's not a Rangers fan at all and didn't give any money to the club. He just made loads of £ through the pools which were pretty much dismantled when he left. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incisive Pass 8 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Not worth having a go at him! Directors, players and coaches, were all part of this!Another thing I'm waiting on some dirt appearing on is when SDM disappeared for a season or two and had John McClelland installed as chairman - and then SDM re-appeared as chairman - what did we not see happening there?. No doubt some no-mark at the record will find someone to dish some pish about this soon eneough. Just get the whole lot out in the open, if it is to be RFC 2012, i'd like us to be squeaky clean. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosesMcNeil 1,664 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 he did.your thinking I used the word personally.How simple can I make it for you?Did Adam pour millions into the club or not?It seems perfectly obvious why you refuse to answer. It's because we both know he did nothing of the kind - and therefore did not 'practically pay for the stadium we sit in'.Or, indeed, anything like it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davie_bluenose 20 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 How simple can I make it for you?Did Adam pour millions into the club or not?It seems perfectly obvious why you refuse to answer. It's because we both know he did nothing of the kind - and therefore did not 'practically pay for the stadium we sit in'.Or, indeed, anything like it.If i remember correctly he run the pools, but all the cash generated really was from the fans buying the tickets, agents etc, whether additional cash was raised i have no idea but would like to know.Its fair to say the fans built the stadium, thats where the money came from. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosesMcNeil 1,664 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 If i remember correctly he run the pools, but all the cash generated really was from the fans buying the tickets, agents etc, whether additional cash was raised i have no idea but would like to know.Its fair to say the fans built the stadium, thats where the money came from.Every penny that arrives in the coffers at Ibrox is generated by the support. Sponsorship, investors, ticket sales, merchandising, you name it - without the support spending and supporting it would not be there.Hugh Adam 'practically built the stadium we sit in' my arse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davie_bluenose 20 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Every penny that arrives in the coffers at Ibrox is generated by the support. Sponsorship, investors, ticket sales, merchandising, you name it - without the support spending and supporting it would not be there.Hugh Adam 'practically built the stadium we sit in' my arse.He helped set up for the way it would be funded, thats where it started and stopped, then rest was down to poeple willing to buy the tickets for the pools.Just a question, im sure we did take out other loans though to rebuilt it? I remember reading back in 88 or 89 it was almost paid for? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosesMcNeil 1,664 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 He helped set up for the way it would be funded, thats where it started and stopped, then rest was down to poeple willing to buy the tickets for the pools.Just a question, im sure we did take out other loans though to rebuilt it? I remember reading back in 88 or 89 it was almost paid for?I'm sure Adam made a fine job of the pools - we sit in much of the evidence. I don't know about any loans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Stevens Fan Club 42 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Yes, just as culpable. Not the way to run a business...even if it does make money at some point.What does that statement mean ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djw1991 0 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Hugh Adam never claimed to be some saviour who built Rangers stadium - he really didn't care that much.He was just a good businessman and, whatever else you say about him, was one of the only board members who actually stood up to Murray and paid the price for it. He did criticise him at the time and continues to do so now - you really csn't ask any more of the man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djw1991 0 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 This has been kept silent for too long to be credible. Are we supposed to believe he only felt the need to talk now, so close to the end of the tax case and after so many months of investigations?If his information is so vital why wasn't he involved in the tax case?Also, this gem gives you an idea of how intellectual the man is "It would be an offshore trust - almost like a boat." AHAHAHAHA!!He then goes on to say "Few of them were the Brain of Britain." That's a bit rich coming from you mate.The stench coming off this story is unbearable. Hugh Adam is the lowest order of filth and should be hounded by our fans for the rest of his days.Missed this earlier, Hugh Adam is a man in his 90s and you want him hounded by fans?And he is a very clever man, as was demonstrated in a long and illustrious business career. Compared to yourself, who advocates hounding octogenarians. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 How simple can I make it for you?Did Adam pour millions into the club or not?It seems perfectly obvious why you refuse to answer. It's because we both know he did nothing of the kind - and therefore did not 'practically pay for the stadium we sit in'.Or, indeed, anything like it.he raised millions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ped faeIbroxStreet 5 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Sour grapes anyone? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbear 398 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I've met Hugh Adam quite a few times, he's a really lovely man who was treated horribly by Murray.It takes guts to come out like this, he knew Murray was up to no good and when he spoke out against it was forced out and banned from Ibrox.Oh, and he's not a Rangers fan at all and didn't give any money to the club. He just made loads of £ through the pools which were pretty much dismantled when he left.I'm sure he is a lovely man and was probably the forward thinking type of business brain we'll need when we get out of this. But it doesn't take a lot of guts to continue to twist the knife when the club is on its knees. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosesMcNeil 1,664 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 he raised millions.And not his millions. Far from it.Damn facts, eh, GS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djw1991 0 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I'm sure he is a lovely man and was probably the forward thinking type of business brain we'll need when we get out of this. But it doesn't take a lot of guts to continue to twist the knife when the club is on its knees.He is telling the truth which would come out inevitably anyway. And it's nothing new, he has been doing this since he left. The only difference is people are now listening. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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