OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 In 95, there were two relegation places and Aberdeen were destined for the 2nd bottom- an automatic relegation post. The authorities swiftly moved to introduce the play off with 2nd bottom of the Premier and 2nd top of the first. In 2000, again Aberdeen were due to be relegated for finishing bottom. It was decided that Falkirk didn't have a suitable stadium. Notably, Falkirk still don't have a suitable stadium, but were then allowed into the SPL at a later date, having to install temporary "jousting style" stands. So for the Aberdonian lurkers who have only just discovered "sporting integrity", here's another one for you... Hypocrisy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 3,134 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 But they are not Rangers.We can hammer them with facts but at the end of the day, we are Rangers and that is all that matters. There is a word for what is happeneing.Corrupt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelavic191 4,805 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 I hate this sporting integrity word. These other clubs have made it up to hide the excuse that they want to kick Rangers out. Where was the Sporting Integrity when we played in the UEFA Cup final? What about the fact that Rangers have almost single handidly kept the Scottish co-effiecient up so that there are two teams in the draw for the upcoming Champions League?Nice to see the Raith director in the other thread questioning the integrity of possibly allowing Dundee into the SPL if Rangers aren't re-admitted. Scotttish football is a joke. The sooner there are serious reforms and all being organised under the one body the better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 Tweets to Jim Spence:@bbcjimspence 97% of Dons want 'Gers out supposedly 4"sporting integrity". In 95(invented playoff)&2000 AFC avoided relegation.@bbcjimspence In 2000 it was Falkirk's ground as the "reason".Sporting Integrity a new thing in Aberdeen? Or is it just hypocrisy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger 8,973 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 And if they had gone down they would have sank without a trace. Horrible club Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 I hate this sporting integrity word. These other clubs have made it up to hide the excuse that they want to kick Rangers out. Where was the Sporting Integrity when we played in the UEFA Cup final? What about the fact that Rangers have almost single handidly kept the Scottish co-effiecient up so that there are two teams in the draw for the upcoming Champions League?Nice to see the Raith director in the other thread questioning the integrity of possibly allowing Dundee into the SPL if Rangers aren't re-admitted. Scotttish football is a joke. The sooner there are serious reforms and all being organised under the one body the better.Excellent points, mate, especially the bit in bold. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 3,134 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Where is the Sporting Integrity when mismanagement at Hibs had them close the doors and reform in 1892 yet still claim the honours won since formation in 1875?Where is the Sporting Integrity in a club Chairman blatantly lying with regard to an end of season tour that was booked?Where is the Sporting Integrity in a club in the final of our countries cup competition fielding 5 of 11 players on loan, with their wages being paid by the owning club?Where is the Sporting Integrity in the a club that won the Cup final repeatedly being served with winding up orders, paying players late yet still being able to sign a new player in the Jan window?Where is the Sporting Integrity in a club using OUR supporters money to pay off a young manager learning his trade to employ a manager in his retirement, yet still being relegated?Where is the Sporting Integrity when you admit your managers failings yet contest the decision on a technicality using a QC?Where is the Sporting Integrity when 10 of the 12 clubs hold meetings to discuss changes to the league without consultation to the other 2 members? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 Where is the Sporting Integrity when mismanagement at Hibs had them close the doors and reform in 1892 yet still claim the honours won since formation in 1875?Where is the Sporting Integrity in a club Chairman blatantly lying with regard to an end of season tour that was booked?Where is the Sporting Integrity in a club in the final of our countries cup competition fielding 5 of 11 players on loan, with their wages being paid by the owning club?Where is the Sporting Integrity in the a club that won the Cup final repeatedly being served with winding up orders, paying players late yet still being able to sign a new player in the Jan window?Where is the Sporting Integrity in a club using OUR supporters money to pay off a young manager learning his trade to employ a manager in his retirement, yet still being relegated?Where is the Sporting Integrity when you admit your managers failings yet contest the decision on a technicality using a QC?Where is the Sporting Integrity when 10 of the 12 clubs hold meetings to discuss changes to the league without consultation to the other 2 members?All excellent points.You know, it would be good to list these, club by club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmond7 1,545 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Sporting integrity goes out the window every time a team takes to the field and a player falls over to gain a free kick or takes a throw in the knows isn't his *alluding to that cup final* or tries to get another player booked by gesturing to the referee and a million other things. Sporting integrity in football? Give me a break. It's become the buzz phrase for all the liars and cheats in this country. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelavic191 4,805 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Sporting integrity goes out the window every time a team takes to the field and a player falls over to gain a free kick or takes a throw in the knows isn't his *alluding to that cup final* or tries to get another player booked by gesturing to the referee and a million other things. Sporting integrity in football? Give me a break. It's become the buzz phrase for all the liars and cheats in this country.Exactly. I remember Hugh Keevens making the point on Rhadio Clyde about a month ago (not that I often agree with him). He said "If you want to talk about sporting integrity it has to start on the pitch with players saying "That ball hit off me last it's a throw in the other way" or "That ball hit my hand it should be a penalty""I just hope when the day comes that their shitty little clubs are fucked, the other teams apply all the same punishments after all where would be the sporting integrity if they didn't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosesMcNeil 1,664 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 It was decided that Falkirk didn't have a suitable stadium.Didn't Falkirk propose to lease Murrayfield for a season and still get knocked back. They did.Only for Hearts to have the same request granted later.Both decisions taken by the SPL.Integrity? They wouldn't recognise it if it slapped both of their faces. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandie 0 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 The question of 'Sporting integrity' can't be raised here, as AFC never broke any rules... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 Tweets to Jim Spence:@bbcjimspence 97% of Dons want 'Gers out supposedly 4"sporting integrity". In 95(invented playoff)&2000 AFC avoided relegation.@bbcjimspence In 2000 it was Falkirk's ground as the "reason".Sporting Integrity a new thing in Aberdeen? Or is it just hypocrisy?He still hasn't responded. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdocherty72 215 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Seems there's two rule books, one for rangers & one for the other eleven teams. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crespie6 334 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Where is the Sporting Integrity when mismanagement at Hibs had them close the doors and reform in 1892 yet still claim the honours won since formation in 1875?Where is the Sporting Integrity in a club Chairman blatantly lying with regard to an end of season tour that was booked?Where is the Sporting Integrity in a club in the final of our countries cup competition fielding 5 of 11 players on loan, with their wages being paid by the owning club?Where is the Sporting Integrity in the a club that won the Cup final repeatedly being served with winding up orders, paying players late yet still being able to sign a new player in the Jan window?Where is the Sporting Integrity in a club using OUR supporters money to pay off a young manager learning his trade to employ a manager in his retirement, yet still being relegated?Where is the Sporting Integrity when you admit your managers failings yet contest the decision on a technicality using a QC?Where is the Sporting Integrity when 10 of the 12 clubs hold meetings to discuss changes to the league without consultation to the other 2 members?also - where is the sporting integrity in demanding a game be cancelled because it benefits your team, and use the death of a former bit-part player as the reason, yet within 4 months, when a club legend dies, you demand all fixtures are played immediately?this is the difference between us and them - i would be ashamed if my club acted like this. i would not get out my fecking broom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek1872 548 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Two wrongs dont make a right. Just because all these wee diddy clubs have done things in the past doesnt mean we should be allowed to do it now. With the exception of the bheasts whose past doings will always be the worst no matter what we have done worse than these other clubs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 What I still fail to understand is how Hearts specifically seem to be given a free pass relative to Rangers over their constant financial mismanagement. Why is it when its Hearts, it's just "OH THAT MAD VLAD AGAIN " but when it's Rangers, it isn't the mismanagement of the custodians but the fault of the entire club? Oh wait, I know why.Great point mate.Add in that Vlad is still in control of Hearts, whilst Murray and Whyte have departed from Rangers and will never be welcome back again.The Scottish media are still keeping up their high double standards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexiboy 157 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 also - where is the sporting integrity in demanding a game be cancelled because it benefits your team, and use the death of a former bit-part player as the reason, yet within 4 months, when a club legend dies, you demand all fixtures are played immediately?this is the difference between us and them - i would be ashamed if my club acted like this. i would not get out my fecking broom.No what else the cunts did they played Motherwell at parkhead on the anniversary of there former players death they didn't even wear black arm bands unlike the team they were playing fucking joke sporting fucking interference.they interfere with everything football religion and not forgetting little kiddies bums Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goteborg83 0 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 In 95, there were two relegation places and Aberdeen were destined for the 2nd bottom- an automatic relegation post. The authorities swiftly moved to introduce the play off with 2nd bottom of the Premier and 2nd top of the first.That's not true - all ten SPL clubs voted the previous summer for the introduction of a play-off and AFC finished 9th, with Dundee United automatically relegated.Aberdeen beat Pars home & away in the play-off. Not sure why they ever did away with them considering the 21,000 and 16,000 attendances at Pittodrie and East End Park respectively.In 2000, again Aberdeen were due to be relegated for finishing up.It was decided that Falkirk didn't have a suitable stadium. Notably, Falkirk still don't have a suitable stadium, but were then allowed into the SPL at a later date, having to install temporary "jousting style" stands.Not true again. There was due to be no automatic relegation that season, as the league was expanding.Falkirk (3rd in Div 1) ground was deemed unsuitable on 31 March deadline (a daft SPL rule decided by all 10 clubs beforehand).....therefore Aberdeen and Dunfermline avoided the scheduled 3-way play-off and were in the following season's SPL.So for the Aberdonian lurkers who have only just discovered "sporting integrity", here's another one for you...Hypocrisy.Most football fans indulge in hypocrisy, but unfortunately your facts are incorrect on this one.Most fans would agree that any club that benefitted to the tune of tens of millions of pounds, that other clubs were having to pay, should face the consequences otherwise our league WOULD lack integrity and never recover in the eyes of many.Thankfully some rangers fans realise that as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goteborg83 0 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 In 95, there were two relegation places and Aberdeen were destined for the 2nd bottom- an automatic relegation post. The authorities swiftly moved to introduce the play off with 2nd bottom of the Premier and 2nd top of the first.In 2000, again Aberdeen were due to be relegated for finishing up.It was decided that Falkirk didn't have a suitable stadium. Notably, Falkirk still don't have a suitable stadium, but were then allowed into the SPL at a later date, having to install temporary "jousting style" stands.So for the Aberdonian lurkers who have only just discovered "sporting integrity", here's another one for you...Hypocrisy.I think that historian on Newsnight Scotland last night tried to make this point, but unfortunately it's fiction.Aberdeen qualified for play-offs in both these seasons. They beat Dunfermline in 95, and in 00 (when the league was expanding) avoided a 3-way play-off with Dunfermline and Falkirk due to the latter's ground (silly rule, but a rule all the same).The rules were decided before the season by all ten SPL clubs on both occasions. The SPL does struggle with integrity though due to the flagrant self-interest......even binning the playoffs that used to attract full houses and keep the leagues interesting.The SFA should make these type of decisions, but even they went easy on rangers with a transfer embargo when full suspension was an option. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowyourfacts! 0 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 In 95, there were two relegation places and Aberdeen were destined for the 2nd bottom- an automatic relegation post. The authorities swiftly moved to introduce the play off with 2nd bottom of the Premier and 2nd top of the first.In 2000, again Aberdeen were due to be relegated for finishing up.It was decided that Falkirk didn't have a suitable stadium. Notably, Falkirk still don't have a suitable stadium, but were then allowed into the SPL at a later date, having to install temporary "jousting style" stands.So for the Aberdonian lurkers who have only just discovered "sporting integrity", here's another one for you...Hypocrisy.If you actually did a bit of research, aberdeen finished second bottom in 95, and therefore played in a play-off that was already decided to happen at the start of the season by the premier division and scottish football league, aberdeen won that play-off and retaines their position in premier division fair and square. In 2000, aberdeen finished 10th position in spl, but due to league reconstruction st. mirren and dunfermline were promoted. Aberdeen were due to play falkirk in a play-off, but due to brockville not being up to scratch they were denied the chance. Now, can somebody answer why aberdeen should have been relegated ? Aberdeen dont make the rules, they just play by them. Unlike........... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSB 0 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 The playoff is 95 was in place from the end of the previous season and in 2000 Aberdeen were saved from a 3 way relegation PLAYOFF which was also in place from the start. Falkirk knew their stadium was not fit for purpose which was another RULE ( You lot know what they are) that was in place from the start.You lot have no shame, trying to bring down everyone else for your years of wrong doing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senna 735 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 The playoff is 95 was in place from the end of the previous season and in 2000 Aberdeen were saved from a 3 way relegation PLAYOFF which was also in place from the start. Falkirk knew their stadium was not fit for purpose which was another RULE ( You lot know what they are) that was in place from the start.You lot have no shame, trying to bring down everyone else for your years of wrong doing.You can prattle on about sporting integrity when you stop singing about the Ibrox Disaster or Ian Durrant's injury.Fuck off back to molesting your livestock. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexiboy 157 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 The playoff is 95 was in place from the end of the previous season and in 2000 Aberdeen were saved from a 3 way relegation PLAYOFF which was also in place from the start. Falkirk knew their stadium was not fit for purpose which was another RULE ( You lot know what they are) that was in place from the start.You lot have no shame, trying to bring down everyone else for your years of wrong doing.What's ur views on little kids being tampered with for years n the club involved sweeps it under the carpet.2 businessman killed our company not the employees,players or fans our football club remains.so let the spl apply the rules n put in the 3rd division but don't dare blame us if the spl teams vote to keep us in the league for there financial Gaines n after uve read this fuck off back to whatever shitty team u support ya fucking wank or cow.no 1 likes us we don't care Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSB 0 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 As usual Der Bun chooses to deflect and not take responsibility for their own actions.Do you actually think you've done nothing wrong and Rangers should just continue without sanctions?In other countries namely Italy clubs have done similar things to Rangers and they've been relegated without question, without a vote even.The corrupt SFA want to keep Rangers in the top flight but know they wouldn't get off with it. They're looking for any way to worm out of it so they can accept as little responsibility as possible.There shouldn't even be a vote and if it had been any SPL club out with the Gruesome Twosome they would be in the 3rd division as we speak. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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