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Froome is better than Wiggins imo. I hope he'll be in another team next year so that there would be more suspense ! Also congratulations to Voeckler who will be in his maillot à pois in Paris !! :D

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Wiggins has 3 or 4 teammates around him at all times. Their job is to protect him from potential falls, especially on the flat sections. But their most important job is to keep him in their slipstream, which allows him to conserve a lot of energy. That's why you get Rogers, Porte and Froome in front of Wiggins, when the climbing begins with the rider in front taking the brunt of the wind. Helpers also get water bottles, energy gels and food for him and others from the team car, so he doesn't have to go back. If there's a puncture and no team car in sight, they may also give him their tyre. And if a team leader is dropped or has suffered a puncture or a fall, then his teammates drop back to ride in front of him to help him get back into the main group with a minimum energy loss.

It's definitely not every man for himself, hierarchy matters in cycling. Of course there are guys, who are out there racing just for themselves, that's mainly from weaker teams, whose main goal is to get guys in the breakaway or go for stage wins in order to get maximum exposure for their sponsors.

General classement contenders have their entire teams working for them, a couple of guys to help on the climbs, a couple to work on the flat etc.

Sprinters have their teams do most of the riding in front on flat stages, setting up a so called train, where the idea is for the team to pull their main sprinter to the front, where they peel off one by one, while he stays in their slipstream for a final attack and sprint in the last couple hundred meters.

If you take a look at today's and yesterday's stage, during the final climbs Nibali, main Sky rival, had Ivan Basso dictating a strong pace at the front, which lead to a lot of the riders being dropped, he was preparing the ground for a Nibali attack, which never came as yesterday the Sky boys had him covered and today he didn't have the legs for it and ended up being punished, when Froome and Wiggins pulled away.

Great summation. :clap:

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Froome is better than Wiggins imo. I hope he'll be in another team next year so that there would be more suspense ! Also congratulations to Voeckler who will be in his maillot à pois in Paris !! :D

Froome is better on certain climbs, Wiggins is better in the Time Trials, however, Wiggins is in yellow - as planned since the start of the year.

Also, Froome could have been in another team this year but chose to sign a deal with Sky, and in doing so, he took advantage of that team's superior training methods.

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Excellent write up yoghurto!I enjoyed todays stage despite nibali struggling,i think it was a good showcase for the casual fan.I disagree with froome being better than brad,when you look at brads c.v. he is one of the top cyclists of all time imo. He reminds me of indurain,does enough in the mountains and kills on the TT's.Froome has had a good year but has a lot to prove before being better than brad.I thnk people forget how much brad has on his shoulders this year,that can take alot of of a man,while froome can ride as he wishes, He will be a star but at the moment wiggins is the man.

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Froome is better on certain climbs, Wiggins is better in the Time Trials, however, Wiggins is in yellow - as planned since the start of the year.

Also, Froome could have been in another team this year but chose to sign a deal with Sky, and in doing so, he took advantage of that team's superior training methods.

How are Sky's training methods different from other teams' Casey? I've seen this mentioned a few times but I don't really follow cycling so have no idea about training methods etc.

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They are just meticulous in every area, whether that be the bikes; the suits; diet; rest etc.

Jens Voigt, a veteran of the professional sport, summed it up brilliantly for me. He said that Sky managed to find maybe one percent more than the other teams, which doesn't sound like that big a deal.....but when they do that for each aspect, it soon becomes nine or ten percent - and that is a huge advantage.

Much of the credit for the meteroric rise of British cycling, firstly on the track, and latterly on the road and in mountain-biking, must go to Dave Brailsford. He is now Performance Director for British Cycling as well as managing Sky Procycling. He has amassed a brillant support staff from all over the world including coaches, sports scientists and nutritionists and working with the likes of NASA and McLaren to advance the technological side of it.

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Only caught the final 15km. There was a breakaway of 5, Vinokourov riding like a mad man to win the stage, attacked on the 4th category climb about 11km from the finish, 3 riders left on the downhill, then 3 more jumped across from the peloton including Leon Sanchez, the gap was only 30 seconds, but the peloton didn't really show signs of being bothered too much with the chase. Then Liquigas stepped up for Sagan, but gave up quite quickly. So the gap remained somewhere between 10-15 seconds for most part of the final 5 or 6km. And the group was ahead even in the final 2km, Vinokourov at this point dropped to the back and it was Leon Sanchez and Roche, who went at it for what seemed like the stage win. But with about 1.5km to go Wiggins moved to the front with Boason Hagen behind him trying to prepare the sprint for Cavendish. But even with about 500m to go it didn't look too good, but then Cav went for it and just stormed past Roche and Sanchez like they weren't there winning with incredible ease. One of the best sprints I've ever seen, even if Roche and Leon Sanchez seemed to be calculating a bit, they finished 4th and 5th with Goss and Sagan overtaking them as well in the final meters.

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Only caught the final 15km. There was a breakaway of 5, Vinokourov riding like a mad man to win the stage, attacked on the 4th category climb about 11km from the finish, 3 riders left on the downhill, then 3 more jumped across from the peloton including Leon Sanchez, the gap was only 30 seconds, but the peloton didn't really show signs of being bothered too much with the chase. Then Liquigas stepped up for Sagan, but gave up quite quickly. So the gap remained somewhere between 10-15 seconds for most part of the final 5 or 6km. And the group was ahead even in the final 2km, Vinokourov at this point dropped to the back and it was Leon Sanchez and Roche, who went at it for what seemed like the stage win. But with about 1.5km to go Wiggins moved to the front with Boason Hagen behind him trying to prepare the sprint for Cavendish. But even with about 500m to go it didn't look too good, but then Cav went for it and just stormed past Roche and Sanchez like they weren't there winning with incredible ease. One of the best sprints I've ever seen, even if Roche and Leon Sanchez seemed to be calculating a bit, they finished 4th and 5th with Goss and Sagan overtaking them as well in the final meters.

Sounds like a great finish. Cav-Wiggo-Cav in the final three stages. (tu)

Thanks, bud.

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Just watched it. Awesome! The power in that finish by Cavendish must have been frightening for his rivals. Also good to see Wiggins leading out the train to show his gratitude for the sacrifice that the Manxman has given.

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Wiggins has 3 or 4 teammates around him at all times. Their job is to protect him from potential falls, especially on the flat sections. But their most important job is to keep him in their slipstream, which allows him to conserve a lot of energy. That's why you get Rogers, Porte and Froome in front of Wiggins, when the climbing begins with the rider in front taking the brunt of the wind. Helpers also get water bottles, energy gels and food for him and others from the team car, so he doesn't have to go back. If there's a puncture and no team car in sight, they may also give him their tyre. And if a team leader is dropped or has suffered a puncture or a fall, then his teammates drop back to ride in front of him to help him get back into the main group with a minimum energy loss.

It's definitely not every man for himself, hierarchy matters in cycling. Of course there are guys, who are out there racing just for themselves, that's mainly from weaker teams, whose main goal is to get guys in the breakaway or go for stage wins in order to get maximum exposure for their sponsors.

General classement contenders have their entire teams working for them, a couple of guys to help on the climbs, a couple to work on the flat etc.

Sprinters have their teams do most of the riding in front on flat stages, setting up a so called train, where the idea is for the team to pull their main sprinter to the front, where they peel off one by one, while he stays in their slipstream for a final attack and sprint in the last couple hundred meters.

If you take a look at today's and yesterday's stage, during the final climbs Nibali, main Sky rival, had Ivan Basso dictating a strong pace at the front, which lead to a lot of the riders being dropped, he was preparing the ground for a Nibali attack, which never came as yesterday the Sky boys had him covered and today he didn't have the legs for it and ended up being punished, when Froome and Wiggins pulled away.

cheers mate (tu)

wouldnt have thought so much went into it

will look out for all these wee things, see if i can pick it up

just a shame its nearly over

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cheers mate (tu)

wouldnt have thought so much went into it

will look out for all these wee things, see if i can pick it up

just a shame its nearly over

The Vuelta a Espana(Tour of Spain) starts on August 19. You can get your teeth into that.

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Stage 20 - Victory Parade( +a wee sprint at the end) - Rambouillet~Paris

120km which will be little more than a relaxed procession until the normal eight laps of Les Chams-Elysees commence. Then there will be numerous breakaway attempts followed by them being chased down by the teams who are out to lead their sprinter to the most prestigious of stage wins.

There couldn't be a better sight than Wiggins in yellow leading out the Sky train on the last lap and for the world champion, Mark Cavendish to launch himself for the line and complete a hat-trick of British victories.

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