KeyserSoze 14,684 Posted May 16, 2016 Author Share Posted May 16, 2016 1 hour ago, MisterC said: Let's see how the players he has helped bring in perform and develop before we judge. Too early to say he's a genius, let's not get carried away I never called him a genius (for the third time ffs) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamFyfe 1,438 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Warburton always said at the time it was a massive appointment by the club Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,261 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 FMcP and MW are a prime examples of getting the very best people we can irrespective of any prior Rangers connection. For too long we've been putting the "Rangers men" aspect first, this reached a peak (or rather a low) with McCoist, a man wholly incapable of doing the job but who had the "pedigree". I hope we are never so blinkered and parochial again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,684 Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 8 hours ago, The Beast said: FMcP and MW are a prime examples of getting the very best people we can irrespective of any prior Rangers connection. For too long we've been putting the "Rangers men" aspect first, this reached a peak (or rather a low) with McCoist, a man wholly incapable of doing the job but who had the "pedigree". I hope we are never so blinkered and parochial again. I understand what you are saying but we have still the "connection " with DW who I am sure nipped the gaffers ear about us and now is part of our management team. It is something no club can avoid. I think our experience with McCoist has tainted the "Rangers men" thing - we had some good times under Souness but not so under Le Guen. And I am sure there may be  good times ahead with the likes of Kenny Miller or even Andy Halliday at the healm. But you are correct regarding appointing staff who are the best for the job it is something our board has to consider long and hard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,261 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 3 hours ago, KeyserSoze said: I understand what you are saying but we have still the "connection " with DW who I am sure nipped the gaffers ear about us and now is part of our management team. It is something no club can avoid. I think our experience with McCoist has tainted the "Rangers men" thing - we had some good times under Souness but not so under Le Guen. And I am sure there may be  good times ahead with the likes of Kenny Miller or even Andy Halliday at the healm. But you are correct regarding appointing staff who are the best for the job it is something our board has to consider long and hard. Not sure what point you're making re Souness, he had no connection not even as a fan, prior to becoming manager. As for PLG you could argue that whatever might have happened was at least partly sabotaged due to "Rangers men", Ferguson in particular. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,684 Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 14 minutes ago, The Beast said: Not sure what point you're making re Souness, he had no connection not even as a fan, prior to becoming manager. As for PLG you could argue that whatever might have happened was at least partly sabotaged due to "Rangers men", Ferguson in particular. Tenuous with Souness as player/manager then manager.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso is King 64 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Wouldn't say he is a genius but he's very good at his job and has great connections in the game. Massive appointment by the club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,261 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 27 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: Tenuous with Souness as player/manager then manager.  I'm not saying that people with a Rangers connection should not be involved but it shouldn't be a qualification. We should strive to always get the very best people we can, if they so happen to be a Rangers fan or ex-player then that's just a bonus. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T.G 10,773 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I think MW and FMc are taking the best approach Questions asked: "Attitude, ability and availability?" Questions not asked: "Are you a Rangers man?" If question 1 is yes then anything else is a bonus I have a feeling this wasn't done in the previous regime Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 16 hours ago, MisterC said: Let's see how the players he has helped bring in perform and develop before we judge. Too early to say he's a genius, let's not get carried away Okay - sorry Mr Mod. ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 On 5/16/2016 at 10:46 PM, The Beast said: FMcP and MW are a prime examples of getting the very best people we can irrespective of any prior Rangers connection. For too long we've been putting the "Rangers men" aspect first, this reached a peak (or rather a low) with McCoist, a man wholly incapable of doing the job but who had the "pedigree". I hope we are never so blinkered and parochial again. McParland said this on Monday: Quote  To be honest, the ideal is to take a Ranger supporter, said McParland. "People might scoff at that, but it’s the truth. Because they have the affinity with what we are trying to do." "You see that with Andy Halliday here. He typifies a lot of what we want to do. Unbelievable character, loves the club, knows how we play and is a good lad. Put all that together and you get a top player," he added.  He doesn't have a problem with 'Rangers men', in fact he seems to actively encourage recruiting them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,684 Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 9 minutes ago, AlBear85 said: McParland said this on Monday:  I do think there's an added bonus if you are both a fan and a player as it may get that extra out you. But it shouldn't be the reason to go after someone. Halliday was a real find and there won't be many others out there with his affinity with the club.  Could the same be said when looking for a manager? I don't think so.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 1 minute ago, KeyserSoze said: I do think there's an added bonus if you are both a fan and a player as it may get that extra out you. But it shouldn't be the reason to go after someone. Halliday was a real find and there won't be many others out there with his affinity with the club.  Could the same be said when looking for a manager? I don't think so.  In McParland's words recruiting Rangers men is what we want to do ideally. That'll be a bit awkward for some on here. "Rangers men" has been a derogatory term for too long on here whether directed at board, management, coach, player or employee level. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,306 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 3 hours ago, AlBear85 said: McParland said this on Monday: He doesn't have a problem with 'Rangers men', in fact he seems to actively encourage recruiting them. He does say that, but that shouldnt be top of the list of requirements though.. It should be the right person for the job and if they are Rangers fans then that is a bonus. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 1,114 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 The footballing operation/infrastructure as a whole is what is important. Alongside having the right individuals in charge of the various parts of it. If you get each dept. adding value and contributing positively the end result will be positive. Â Individuals come and go, we need to get the infrastructure spot-on so as make things easier when they do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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