Baileyseye 0 Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/i...als/default.stm has anyone seen this, it's the link on the left to the italy game in 1965 when John Greig scored. brilliant stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibroxwonder 0 Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 The really poor thing about the group is the fixture list. Even after Saturdays games, depending on what happens both Italy and France have another wee bite at the cherry on Wednesday, knowing fine well what they have to do if things dont go their way at the weekend. Pile o shite if you ask me. The fixtures and their dates and times were decided just after the draw had been made. Even the SFA had no idea we'd still have a chance come this date. And we know what we have to do anyway, win and we're through. Draw we need to rely on FI, or Ukraine, to win, anything else, we're out. Simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 What we all think the team al be? Am goin as follows... Gordon Hutton Weir McManus Naysmith Brown Fletcher Ferguson Hartley McCulloch McFadden You might be right, but I'd take Hartley out and have Miller playing instead, even though it might end up that McFadden is on the bench! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadaready 9,437 Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 I believe in the team and think that we can do it. It is really do or die for us so we can leave nothing on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose_72 198 Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 win, lose or draw, we have a national side to be proud of now. we have moved up 73 places in the rankings in the space of just 3 years. we may not qualify for euro 2008, but i am very confident we will qualify for world cup 2010. the georgia game means nothing now, no point thinking about that, we could have won that game and still not qualified for euro 2008. the important game was always the italian game, we knew we'd have to get something out of this game and it is much better to go for the win than the draw. BUT out of all the teams that we would need a win against, the italians are probably the side to avoid. they are the masters of getting a result when they need it and if their top players are on song, im afraid we are in for a tough evening. but its one game and anything can happen! we have won all our home games so far and whos to say we cant make it a 100% home record? the pressure is all on the italians. they know that if they lose, there is a chance they wont go to euro 2008 and how embarrasing would it be for them as they are the world champions? if we fail to qualify then there is no shame in finishing just behind the world cup winners and runners up(i mean who expected us to qualify anyway?). but if we qualify then it would be one of the greatest achievements by the national side! my prediction: my head says 1-1, but my heart says a 1-0 win. MON THE SCOTLAND!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
essexloyal 0 Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 2-1 to Scotland Good luck from Essex. Rule Britannia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Wasn't going to start a separate thread about this as there are all of these wee niggling Scotland threads kicking about, but read today that we still have a chance of being in the top seeded pots for the draw for the World Cup. It all boils down to us beating Italy and if Croatia beat England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Juve 1 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 any idea who the ref is? whoever italy bribe the most Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose_72 198 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Wasn't going to start a separate thread about this as there are all of these wee niggling Scotland threads kicking about, but read today that we still have a chance of being in the top seeded pots for the draw for the World Cup. It all boils down to us beating Italy and if Croatia beat England. how many points are we behind england? surely we'd get a lot more points for beating italy, than they would for beating croatia? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab 73 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 any idea who the ref is? whoever italy bribe the most One shouldn't be surprised, whatever you or I may think, Calcio's reputation is going further downhill at the moment faster than David Beckham after this: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Juve 1 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 True From outside view Calcio does look a real shambles, not much better from people who have always watched it either... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose_72 198 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 believe it or not boab, football violence in italy has actually improved over the last 4 years - that is according to gabriele marcotti. he says violence was a lot worse 4 years ago and things have improved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab 73 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 believe it or not boab, football violence in italy has actually improved over the last 4 years - that is according to gabriele marcotti. he says violence was a lot worse 4 years ago and things have improved. I don't just mean the violence but there's calciopoli, the passport scandal, the Juve drugs scandal of years past and its a real shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose_72 198 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 match fixing and referee bribing in italy has been going on for years, this isnt anything new. read "a history of italian football", theres a section on this and its a very interesting read. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Juve 1 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 believe it or not boab, football violence in italy has actually improved over the last 4 years - that is according to gabriele marcotti. he says violence was a lot worse 4 years ago and things have improved. I don't just mean the violence but there's calciopoli, the passport scandal, the Juve drugs scandal of years past and its a real shame. there was nothing wrong with that, the drugs wer legal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab 73 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 match fixing and referee bribing in italy has been going on for years, this isnt anything new. read "a history of italian football", theres a section on this and its a very interesting read. Which book, I've got two? John Foot or Paddy Agnew? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose_72 198 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 ive got both those books, but only 1 of them is called "a history of italian football" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_RFC87 762 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 1-1 or 2-0 to Italy I still say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Juve 1 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 History on Calcio is great, highly recomend it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose_72 198 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 1-1 or 2-0 to Italy I still say i dont think we'll get beat. my head says 1-1, heart says 1-0 us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab 73 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 ive got both those books, but only 1 of them is called "a history of italian football" I'll look at bed-time, when I'm upstairs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_RFC87 762 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 This whole 'turmoil' thing with Italian football doesn't rub off on me. They went through a mess of match fixing and the top team being relegated and needed to do some serious soul searching...then within a few weeks had won the world cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dado 334 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Scotland still have a 100% home record I wouldnt bet against us sneaking it.... Head says it will be a draw though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Wasn't going to start a separate thread about this as there are all of these wee niggling Scotland threads kicking about, but read today that we still have a chance of being in the top seeded pots for the draw for the World Cup. It all boils down to us beating Italy and if Croatia beat England. how many points are we behind england? surely we'd get a lot more points for beating italy, than they would for beating croatia? Here is a quote from today's Evening Times. Now if we can overcome world champions Italy at Hampden on Saturday and England lose to Croatia next week then we will jump above them. That would also see us go into the top group of seeds - instead of Steve McClaren's flops - in next month's qualifying draw for the World Cup in South Africa. Scotland will reach 1,149 points if they win the showdown with Roberto Donadoni's side on Saturday. And if ninth-placed England, who currently have 1,137 points, even draw with Croatia, who are ranked above them in eighth spot, we will move ahead of the Auld Enemy. Romania could still throw a spanner in the works. They are in 10th place on 1,086 points and still have qualifying games against Albania and Bulgaria to play. However, they have already qualified for Euro 2008 and are expected to field experimental sides in both of those matches. http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/displa..._the_way_up.php Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_RFC87 762 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 extra incentive to beat Italy then, if we already needed one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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