BigDak

I read Owen Coyle denied that was the reason why he was dropped. I don't know what to make of that considering he added that he can't believe he's being asked that "in this day and age" even though it was only last year the lad did refuse to wear a poppy. With regards to the Bobby Sands thing I'm quite aware of the Loyalist/Republican conflict but I couldn't pick out Bobby Sands from a picture. I could recognise a can of coke and a chicken supper though.

On a side note, check the bell-end at 10 seconds who runs into the lamp post. Fud. To be honest, I've never really paid that much attention to the difference in media coverage but over the last 3 months I've picked up on it and it is quite subtle but obvious once you know what you're looking at, i.e. "Scottish football supporters" instead of septic supporters. I was reading another thread about the land the tims bought from GCC and it would be interesting to know if this was as crooked as it first seems.

The title to this thread is one of the best I've seen a good while

To be honest guys, maybe it's just where I'm from, but IME the protestant/catholic thing is dated. I'm more concerned about the people who come over to this country and want, amongst other things: Their own laws Women completely covered head-to-toe No alcohol Complete subordination to religion And so on, and so on As I say maybe it’s just because of where I’m from, I imagine it might be more prevalent in Glasgow, but none of the catholics I know want to take over Scotland/Britain. That being said, as much as I never liked septic before I now out and out despise them after seeing how badly they wanted us gone.

I don't know if this has already been said, because I couldn't be bothered trawling through all 19 pages of this thread, and as much as I feel sorry for those who have lost money due to this, I'd much rather we postponed the game and hit them when we're full strength solely for the fact that I really want us to shove it right down people's throats (the supporters of other clubs who laugh and say we should be doing better) when we score 100 goals by Christmas and go the whole season without losing. Yes, Steven Smith COULD fill in for Wallace but we missed his runs down the wing the last game he wasn’t playing and Smith was in. Surely they had no certainties that Wallace would get called up for the Scotland team- IIRC he wasn’t in the squad for the last game? I’d rather cancel and look back at the end of the season with a 100% record intact than have that one we blip sitting there. I bet all you folk going mad would, at the end of the season, think differently if that was the only game which ruined a perfect record. And yes we should be able to beat Dunfermline at home with the squad we have but I’d rather make sure.

The thing is it now seems like a double edged sword where you don't want one man controlling the club but the current situation isn't much better where you have loads of people unable to agree on what's happening. Is the ideal scenario some benevolent majority share holder looking after the club, but ultimately having the power to do what he wants? Or lots of shareholders with a similar vision? Albeit we can only hope that their vision is a good one.

This. I was well pumped up for the game on Saturday but now it just seems like a side story in the main saga.

While I agree with you wishing for people to have their own opinion I think it is difficult to gather a true/fair opinion on much of the farce that has been going on due to a lack of details. How are people supposed to make decisions either way without information? While it might not be a great standpoint blindly agreeing with everything Walter Smith says, I don't know if it's a much better standpoint blindly disagreeing with everything that is printed in the media merely for the sake of it being printed in the media. A lot of people who make large amounts of money think differently from most normal people and think in terms of how to get the most money possible no matter what the costs. So I think the reason people are wary of someone coming to Ibrox to make money is that owning a football team is a proven way to lose cash so if someone wants to make money from it that might be through unscrupulous means.

Ahh right. My apologies. On a different note, I have to say I was surprised to see quite so much backing, for lack of a better word, for Green. On the face of it he seems like he's trouble. I think what Ivybank wrote is correct- too many cooks and all that.

I think the point that Paul Murray said he didn't want to own a football club is maybe being made to be more of a bad thing than it may actually be. I don't imagine owning a football club, even one like Rangers, is the walk in the park that people think it would be. Some folk will say that if you were a true Rangers supporter you'd do it but say that the next time you actually have millions of pounds to throw down the gutter. Owning a modern football team isn't a money making exercise, unless you're planning on ripping the club off at some point, so essentially, if you don't think you're up to the job, you've got the scenario where you plough your millions of pounds into a club and then spend the next X amount of years stressing about the job you're doing. I imagine it's like part owning a classic car that needs constant, perpetual maintenance and you love it but don't want all the burden of keeping it then you hear some arsehole boy racer wants to come along and buy it. You don't want to jump into the unknown but you also don't want an eedjit running it into the ground. The thing about people backing Walter is that we are getting so few details about what is going on that when someone who cares about the club, and who will be privy to details that the rest of us aren't, comes out with something you naturally believe them. It seems to be a choice between following blindly in someone trustworthy, on the face of it, or standing in the same position with your arms in the air screaming about lack of details. I think we can all agree that it's a bad situation that we, as supporters, are all in. I don't even know what's happening anymore!

Ahh, now I see. Thanks for the info. Don't suppose it matters as much as a) him actually coming in the first place; and b) him scoring goals.

I wasn't sure if the Davie Cooper salute was intentional with Templeton although, nonetheless, it's still a great name for a Rangers player to have. Since I don't want to start a new thread with this question I thought this would be the best place to ask: I heard Templeton was a Celtic fan (hence the reason why I wasn't so sure of the intention behind the name). Is this true or just more spiteful tripe coming from "supporters" of other teams?

I think everybody needs to calm down a wee bit. We're all supposed to be supporting the same team but because of a difference in opinion we've got folk getting called "fuds", "tadgers" and worse ("a tim"). Cool your jets lads! I do agree it's very early to be worrying about lacking quality but, the thing, is everyone is used to the team winning leagues and cups in the SPL so when we didn't hammer Brechin 25-0 folk might wonder what's going on. But, as has been rightfully said, the game at the weekend was, essentially, a pre-season however I suppose given that we fielded 7 internationals then you could be forgiven for expecting a bit more. The thing is though Scottish football is tough. We all want the team to be playing attractive football but even in the SPL it was difficult because, with the exception of the games against the beasts from the east, every team pretty much sat back and absorbed the pressure and tried to catch us on the counter-attack and anybody who has a clue about football should realise how difficult it is to play passes through 10 defending players (even Barca struggle!). I think that's why we've never done anything in the Champions league for ages because in Scotland you need two teams: one to play relatively unnattractive football against the Scottish teams and another to be able to play decent football against good teams in Europe. But we didn't have the squad depth for that. I do think we should be able to work up Div 3 & 2 in consecutive years and by the time we reach the 1st the transfer ban will be lifted (unless the SPL head arseholes throw in a mystery punishment ) and we should be able to make it from there. I saw the Ayr v. Killie game (which, for the record, was absolutely terrible) and Killie showed Ayr up so if that's what a Div 1 team were like against Killie I think we should be confident of returning to the SPL-but it might not be as pretty as we hoped/thought it would be. It might seem like overkill buying players who are outwith the normal Div 3 standard, considering a lot of the regular Div 3 players have been good Junior players who've been picked up, but when you think it's going to be halfway through the season in Div 2 (hopefully) before we can sign again then we really have to.

Oops, do apologise Would horrible, sister fanciers do?

Alright all I've only recently joined the RMF and I've been reading quite a few of the articles and I'm surprised by the amount of people commenting at the bottom who aren't even Rangers supporters. Why are they bothering with coming on to a Rangers site? I'm all for a discussion and getting the view point of others but never once have I wanted to go on to some Celtic site and converse/wind them up with half-baked ideas and second hand information that would just make me sound like a spiteful fool. Plus, the fact is, it's never a discussion that they want. They come on trying to give a tone of calm, neutral intelligence but most of the time once their views have been challenged the hatred and venom bubbles to the surface and the point they have been trying to peddle as fact quickly comes to light as being their own bigoted and hateful view point. This whole punishment vs. consequence caper, for example, is a load of bollocks and always seems to thrown in with some lame ass comments about "your club has died" etc. These people need to realise that that chant isn't going to stick and even if the world fell for that rubbish- we wouldn't. Why don't they just stick to their own manky sites and fester away in peace? It just shows that they are more interested in trying to hate us and the club than anything that has to do with their own team.

Further to this, you know how everyone is going on saying: "Livi and Gretna had to start again in the 3rd, so why shouldn't Rangers?" well I was on another forum and a guy said that the only reason Livi and Gretna had to start all over again was because nobody was willing to come in with enough money and as a result they didn't have enough cash to fulfil their obligations in the league i.e. paying for police etc-as opposed to this line that they automatically had to start in the third. Can anybody validate this? Coz it'd be a belter to shut all those petty wee men up. I've tried looking but I can't find anything

Alright all I'm just new to the forum, so this is my first post. There's a guy at work who keeps bleeting on about "3 years accounts" and fair enough it might be a rule but it's bollocks trying to apply it to Rangers. We're not a new team but at the same time it is a new company behind us so the "Newco" can't give records but I'm sure there is a way of showing 3 years worth of records for the team which has been running since 1872. But the crux of the matter is it's just spiteful wee supporters trying to make up more road blocks for the team and to try and keep the old "it's all about Rangers" warcry that they love. One of the things I don't understand is that the SFA have made it clear they wanted Rangers in the first division because Scottish football needs Rangers yet they now seem to be holding up giving us a license and potentially preventing us from being a footballing entity.