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Gogzy, he may not have sold his 4% stake in the club! but there is no denying he owns them and what they are worth? Total that with his wage and the figures don't lie. I like Ally and fell so so about him as manager, I have never said he should be sacked but I am not happy with what he has made out of our misery, as I stated, he will have to explain this at an agm. Gogzy estimated wages if shares were sold for the last 13 months is 2.55m. Does that sit easy if you? Do you think he has earned that amount of money? Are you happy we are losing over a million a season while Ally his backroom staff and directors are earning a small fortune? No I have an opinion, which is fact, the amount he owns is in the accounts and his salary is in the accounts. Are you now saying the accounts are lying? No the accounts are the truth and the truth is including shares he McCoist earned 2.55m. Ally could have refused any of it at any stage? He did not, he took a wage drop after the fans turned on the board.

We could have our own board and hopefully one day put our chairman on the actual board, as fans we need a representative on the board. And a s for the Rst this scheme would just eat them up, as they would be forced to join the new scheme which the club would recognize as the only voice of the fans.

Season tickets holders only to start with, one of the first thing on the agenda could be non season ticket holders joining. 25,000 adults at 15 per head would generate 250,000 and 10,000 juveniles at 5 per head would generate 50,000. That alone is 300,000 per season. that is a hell of a lot of money to put to good use and can only be good for the club.

We as season ticket holders can vote on non season ticket fans joining at a later stage. say we as season ticket holders pay £15 then they non season ticket holder pay 25 or something. But the season ticket holders decide the fate of this supporters trust no one else as I said if Greta uncle Waldo in Canada wants to donate via paypal, why should he have the same voting rights as me? does he buy his book year in year out? does he watch us at Ibrox in rain, sleet or snow? so great uncle Waldo pay say £25 per season? all of a sudden he has the same rights as me and I buy 2 books every year until the day I die? Ad I stated the season ticket holders would decide the fate. You want in the supporters association or whatever it get called then it's simple buy a season book or get entry at a later date via season ticket holders having a vote on it. But great uncle Waldo's money would be appreciated and he could be a non voting member! but we need to get something up and running? Get a few season ticket holders in and around the Glasgow area to discuss this and approach the club. We could do so much from helping buy pitch and do stadium up. But the money will never be used to buy shares.

Woods was great for us but Shilton was a better keeper overall but had only about 4 good seasons left in him. But for me Shilton was a class act.

Jcdbigbear, here here m8, we have had our differences on here yet I always respected your comments, We are all on the same side, but right now I think if there was wage reductions to board members I would stick with them. It is terrible to talk about sides? I am on Rangers side, and do not want Mini Murray anywhere near Ibrox. Would love Dave King to buy up a few shares or generate extra share for x amount of million to him. I would love Dave King to be a major share holder within our board room.

Onedaviecooper, that is a break down per month, per day and per bloody hour, these are facts if you take his 4% in Rangers. these are facts I wish it was not true. I wish he negotiated a new lower rate contract last season? But he did not he just filled his boots m8.

Onedaviecooper, Bitter person? Your happy with your facts? The bloody facts are in the accounts m8, which do not look to kindly on Aliaster, but you expect fans just to nod their heads and agree. No m8 McCoist can explain his self at the agm m8.

Look nothing to so with speaking about McCoist worse than the times, these figures are a disgrace.

Onedaviecooper, McCoist has done nothing wrong? He has creamed an estimate 2.55m out of a club losing over a million a month. Get real he has done nothing wrong? No he has taken the piss and the agm won't be question of sport or the media were he jokes and laughs. serious questions will fly his way over this, 2.55 million for a 4th tier team over 13 months. 192,307.70 per month he has earned or 6,329.11 per day or if he says works 10 hours a day that is 632.92 per bloody hour. No Onedaviecooper, the figures don't lie. he should be bloody embarrassed by these figures.

He was not contracted to the shares, he had already signed his contract, the shares were a sweetener to shift season books. So get you facts straight. The shares were a sweetener just like Walter got 50k worth of shares for fuck all.

Onedaviecooper, he got 4% of the club worth a cool 1.7m on top of his 850k. That is 2.55m to anyone that went to a good school.

look it's not just McCoist it's his backroom staff also and the suits also. It needs to stop and it needs to stop now. wait till the agm, let's see what Mr McCoist says about the amount he has took over in the last 13months. he and the board have a duty to the share holders, and I for one want to know why he has accepted all this?

Ally has earned 2.55m in the last 13 months Are you lot for real? Ally only came clean as he seen the backlash to the board Saturday. One thing about Ally, he is not a stupid man, but like it or not, he has took the fucking piss.

JMorrision, It should be done through the club, It should be season ticket holders only, £15 a year per adult, 5 a year per juvenile, monies added on to season book so it saves on postage, when we pay our books every year our monies go into a supporters trust account, these monies are used to upgrade and maintain stadium, buy the pitch if possible, we elect our own fans to represent us, any share we own get used by our elected members, open a paypal account for non season ticket holders and other fans abroad who want to donate, but they do not get a vote like season ticket holders( Why would they complain? The bread and butter of the club are making the choices for them). Someone needs to approach the club with this idea, but the club have no control over it or the monies it generates. This is solely down to the season ticket holders. I do not think it is fair that a supporter who lives abroad and donates to this gets the same voting rights as me, I buy 2 books every year for that right. This way we would lock in all season ticket holders, we could discuss this if it ever happened at one of the meetings regarding non season ticket voting rights, but it would blow the rst and their members out the water, if they want to be part of it then they buy a book like the best of us, and everything is done via email to keep the cost at a minimal. I have been banging my head on about this for ages, We have to many fans groups with no real power, I want a fans group with power, we could hire a member of staff in the ticket office to deal with our stuff, And the idea of about 500k to play with every season could really help improve our fantastic stadium.

Onedaviecooper, Bain and Walter made sure Ally had the contract with Bain known full well about Whyte, Whyte has to honour His contract by the law of the land just like Charles Green had to honour he contract, Mr McCoist got all wages back dated by Charles Green like all the staff, again by the law of the land has to be done. Now Mr McCoist own 4% of Rangers, worth about 1.7m, he pockets 850k wages, so in the last 13 months he has made approx 2.55m. Sorry but he knew the state of our finances, hard up fans like me invest 5k in our club just to watch McCoist line his own pockets. If we never went into admin he would never have earned anywhere near that amount. Onedaviecooper No one on here would take a wage drop? Are you sure? I think you are wrong there m8, most fans would gladly do it for nothing, McCoist is not a stupid man, he knew exactly what he was doing, He could also hand over his 4% of the club to the fans, now that would make me say well done Ally m8. This was nothing more than a pr stunt by Ally.

I am all for this, but I wonder when the Glasgow city Council will erect a statue for the lives lost in The Ibrox disaster? This is a part of the history of Glasgow also. Why have the council done nothing to honour the dead from that tragic night? I wonder if it happened at the Celtic end at parkhead all those years ago, if we would have some sort of memorial? Does anyone know if the Liverpool council did anything to honour their dead in the way of a statue or something in a public place? I think it is embarrassing that our council have done nothing in all these years? maybe we could as them as a fan base why this is? I think it's time George square had something to commemorate the disaster.

Tak 3 , what the hell you on about? McCoist did not equalize in injury time for Sj Johnstone, we did to force the replay. Just stating the fact that he knocked us back to go to a pish poor English side, Now most rangers fans I know would walk over broken glass to sign a contract and play for Rangers. We made McCoist not the other bloody way around.

Bombay, If Green altered Ally's contract in any way shape or form, Ally would have walked and got a hell of a payout as well. That is why Ally is on that amount. Bain, Smith etc made sure everything was in place for Ally before they left, One thing is for sure Ally is a very very rich man, he has made more money out of our troubles than he would have made if non of this ever happened and we were still in the spl. Could people please explain how he could earn more when are meant to be on our arses? No taking the piss just like the directors and backroom staff.

I'm in

And anyone who complains , why should I put in and I am not a member? All profits will be used for the good of the club decided by their fellow season ticket holders.

Namibianbear, Just because you are not a season ticket holder does not mean you could not donate money, We could set up a paypal account for fans who are non season ticket holders and they could donate that way. Must be season ticket only scheme, As for sticking at 36k? I think we might actual burst the 40,000 barrier if we started this.

All profits will be spent on stadium and facilities inside Ibrox, We could in say 10 years help part fund another tier on the govan stand? Buy the pitch? fill in corners and hang screen soggy Copland and broomland? There is so much we could do with the money to help the club and our experience on match days, but we need to do something, we need some sort of group to approach the club with the idea. It also brings all fans under the one umbrella instead of THE LIFE OF BRIAN shite we have just now. Love to see the look on Dingwalls face when he relies that the RST do not speak for the supporters.

Bump, Going direct to the club? No m8 it's run by supporters for supporters, nothing to do with the club, if we want to say give the stadium an uplift then we vote on it and if agreed approach the club with what we had in mind.

Look if great uncle Waldo from Canada wants in the supporters trust then he buys a fucking season book just like me and watches the bears in rain sleet and bloody snow? It is for the fans, the season ticket holders are the life blood of the club. We would sell more season tickets maybe this way. Must be a season ticket exclusive trust. We could have it up and running by next season, employ a member or two staff in ticket office and everyone who joins gives an email address for further information. keep the over heads down with postage. I understand what people are saying but it must be exclusive to the bread and butter of the club only.