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    Hopefully matchday vaccines next

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    1 minute ago, Tomatasauce said:

    What are you doing about it? Never mind my boots

    Well I have written to my mp for starters. have already written to a venue cancelling a do cause the wanted covid passports for Xmas.  I will not attend any such venues. Not decided how I will deal with if approached by some chancer at the football. 

    Hopefully matchday vaccines next

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    18 minutes ago, Tomatasauce said:

    Who really cares, the people your asking this don’t make the rules! the law, if it stays that way (and I can’t see them backtracking completely now) means unvaccinated fans aren’t getting in, including my da and brother who are both season ticket holders, tough shit! they clearly aren’t happy but I’ve not heard them greetin about it, they know their options and it’s their choice to accept them or not I’d guess 

    id be interested to know what the bears den discriminated posters are doing about the current situation they find themselves in, moaning on here, Is that it? 
     

     

    Well if you are:

    1. Happy for anyone to stick whatever they want in your body regardless of whether there is really a benefit to YOU

    2. Be discriminated against at the whim of a politician . Just now it is covid. Next time it will be something else.

     

    then fill your boots.

    Hopefully matchday vaccines next

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    2 minutes ago, PGWoodwind said:

    So you're asking if people are at risk from me if I don't have the virus?

    At risk of what?

    That was going to be my question to u?  Assuming the guy next to me ( eg you ) does not have the virus am I totally safe?  

    What proof do I have that you aren't violent and won't attack me for saying the wrong thing? Do Rangers check criminal history before entry? 

    What about if you just returned from somewhere with yellow fever? Are the club checking your travel records and you had yellow fever, ebola etc vaccinations? 

    And to be clear your position is that re covid, everyone else is at same risk etc other regardless of weight, health , vax status etc? 

    Hopefully matchday vaccines next

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    2 minutes ago, PGWoodwind said:

    Did I say "deadly risk" aye?

    Don't think so.

    So just how much risk is a healthy dbl vaxxed person at from you if you don't have the virus?

     

    How much risk is a healthy dbl vaxxed person at if you do have the virus?

    Does that risk level change with any of the factors I mentioned age, weight etc etc? 

     

    Hopefully matchday vaccines next

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    2 minutes ago, PGWoodwind said:

    Well you've now changed it to "mortal danger" and I don't know what you mean by that but if you're sticking with just being a danger then yes that is the case - ask your doctor if knowing the truth on it will affect whether you go to games or not.

    Mortal danger means at high risk of death. So even if you were not carrying the virus you are a deadly risk to everyone else. That is what you have just said. Educate yourself. Ffs. 

    Hopefully matchday vaccines next

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    11 minutes ago, PGWoodwind said:

    Yes - all others.

    They could protect themselves by not going to the game but why should the ones who are doing the decent thing be forced to miss out?

    So let's be clear. You are saying that if you are unvaxxed, go to the game (whether carrying the virus or not)  then u are a danger ro every single supporter regardless of:

    1. Their age

    2. Whether they themselves are vaxxed or not

    3. Whether they have covid antibodies from previous infection

    4. Whether they are fit or unfit? Overweight or slim

    5. Whether they have underlying health conditions or not?

    Your position is everyone is in mortal danger regardless of the above. Is that the case?

     

    Hopefully matchday vaccines next

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    1 hour ago, mitre_mouldmaster said:

    Cyclists are not allowed to use the motorways whilst on their bikes.

    They are not being discriminated against. They are not having their freedom of access or human rights restricted just because they fail to obey the rules.

    If the cyclist decides to instead, go sit a test and get a driving licence, then pay the government some money for road tax etc, and get a car, they are then allowed to enter the motorway in their car. Or they could hire a taxi, or other form of motor vehicle transport to do it.

    They would however be denied access on their bike, because they are not following the rules.

    To be honest, im not 100% sure why I posted this, cunts were going all off on different 'car' angles and I wanted to join in. 

    I know why you posted it. Cause your critical thinking skills are non existent. 

    In taking a pushbike on a motorway, would you be presenting a clear and present danger to yourself and/or other road users? Are there any groups of users on the motorway you would not be a danger to?  Would you say that that danger would be mitigatable by the other road users? If I was in my car and you on your bike, what could I do on a busy motorway to protect myself? Not a lot due to the difference in expected speeds. 

    Now, if you go to the football without being dbl vaxxed, are you a clear and present danger to others? All others or just proportion realistically. what could others do to protect themselves from you if they are worried about you? 

     

    *****Official Champions V Hibs Match Thread*****

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    5 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

    Figured us out, also had an easy start with the scum being so shite but they will continue to strengthen and throw money at their problems - we won't. We are reliant on these players getting their shit together very soon. 

     

    Agree. Lack of confidence in front of goal from some players is shocking. Always in from the side and even with 10 men teams can defend it

    Vaccine Passport Enforcement Delayed

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    53 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said:

    I don't really think it is that though.

    Firstly, if they bring in a law stating that it is not legal, then it would not be lawful business.

    If for instance they were to introduce a law to affirm our values as a Christian country and not allow anything to be bought or sold on a Sunday, this would interfere with all the same things you say, but would not be against human rights. It would obviously not happen, but it still fits the same criteria as you lay out.

    It also does not fit the criteria for being classes as legal discrimination, so the "minority" angle does not really hold legal weight. I would agree if they included people who could not be vaccinated, but these people are excluded.

    I don't agree with the vaccine passports, as I don't think they will actually increase the numbers taking the vaccine. I don't however think that they are against human rights.

    Also, tell me. Do you agree with the statements that man's prime reason for existing is the pursuit of individual life,love and happiness? Any law that unreasonably curtails that is wrong?

    Vaccine Passport Enforcement Delayed

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    52 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said:

    I don't really think it is that though.

    Firstly, if they bring in a law stating that it is not legal, then it would not be lawful business.

    If for instance they were to introduce a law to affirm our values as a Christian country and not allow anything to be bought or sold on a Sunday, this would interfere with all the same things you say, but would not be against human rights. It would obviously not happen, but it still fits the same criteria as you lay out.

    It also does not fit the criteria for being classes as legal discrimination, so the "minority" angle does not really hold legal weight. I would agree if they included people who could not be vaccinated, but these people are excluded.

    I don't agree with the vaccine passports, as I don't think they will actually increase the numbers taking the vaccine. I don't however think that they are against human rights.

    See, you are paying far to much attention to laws. Can laws be just or unjust? I would argue yes, they can be either. If it were Jews that were prohibited from going to the football instead of people that saw the vaccine/ doing what you want as a risk to their personal health, would you say that was just? 

    I take it you agree that laws can change? What is just in natural law however is much less mutable. 

    For the law to be sacrosanct and to be absolutely flawless, u have to believe that those that make the law is flawless. So tell me , is sturgeon flawless?

    Now laws are important. Bur a key tenant has always been they do not discriminate. They guide people's behaviour while causing no harm to them. Covid passports break those.

    Vaccine Passport Enforcement Delayed

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    1 hour ago, mitre_mouldmaster said:

    This would be a valid stance if the vaccine passports infringed on your human rights, but that is subjective.

    I don't actually think it does. Others will think it will.

    There will be people who are absolutely crazy about 'their rights' whilst also agreeing things like capital punishment who others would be aghast at in terms of human rights.

    To be honest, I don't think the passports are worth it. Evidence actually indicates they are counter productive in driving up vaccine hesitancy, so basically fail at what they are aiming to do.

    People should be getting the vaccine if they are advised to do so, but ultimately it is their choice. I am fine with 'encouraging' that choice, but it has to be based on the encouragement working. I don't think the passports will actually do that.

    Also the SNP could organise a piss up in a brewery so it was bound to be an absolute shit show.

    A government interfering with whether you can go about your lawful business and victimising / discriminating against a minority and you don't think that is against human rights? Seriously?

    Vaccine Passport Enforcement Delayed

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    51 minutes ago, Darth Bear said:

    Try what again?

    So you wanted to leave the EU because of human rights but you are now crying like a baby over human rights.

    You are correct in that nothing has been removed from law because what has actually happened is that something has been added to the law.

    No. The so called human rights act as written into eu and uk law does not actually, wait for it, protect human rights as evidenced by the vaccine passport shite going on. U agree with that? It protects the rights of criminals and terrorists. Not the law abiding citizen.

    Vaccine Passport Enforcement Delayed

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    2 hours ago, Darth Bear said:

    Did you not want to leave the EU to get rid of all that human rights nonsense? 

    Yup defo. Only the stuff added in after joining the eussr that adds no value whatsoever tho.   I would ask you what have we removed from uk law since leaving that allows this to happen? Nothing. The EU stuff offers no protection in France etc against this. Try again.

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