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27 minutes ago, Tomatasauce said:
Covid passports, what’s that?
I got vaccinated and have a corona app with a QR code meaning I can take my family to places unvaccinated people can’t, I chose freedom, I sold out for a life worth living not a depressing existenceAhem. You are british. You were born with a life worth living. You are aware of that? You are swapping that for a life controlled by others.
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2 minutes ago, Tomatasauce said:
Never has doctors or medical professionals ever tried to stamp their authority on me, if the doctor tell me he wants to stick a camera up my arse,(61 yr old father in law just had this procedure done😂) I don’t assume he’s a gay boy and wants to play with my arse, I assume it’s just another medical procedure that’s to your benefit, sometimes when you’ve got this mad notion to live you follow these people’s advice, you don’t go to a bin man to fit your new kitchen mate😉 I’ve seen their work, it’s not pretty
So the "experts" have said not to vaccinate the young. The politicians under the guidance of behavioral control scientist's overrode them. Are u sure it is science behind covid passports?
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As a matter of interest, we are 5 months on from my second jab. That is 5 months further catchup on clinical trials etc. Have the scot gov or uk gov now come out and said they are now fully confident in the safety of the vaccine for desired groups to underwrite with £10m damage guarantee in case of vaccine induced disability or death?
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11 minutes ago, Madina said:
This is happening in Australia. Would our fans be happy to see this happen as long as they were still getting into Ibrox 🙄
Exactly. Keep in mind people have died because of the vaccine. A small amount but a big impact if you are one of the ones killed by the vax when the virus may not have been a problem for you.
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5 minutes ago, Tomatasauce said:
Seriously? I’d take the advice of someone who’s job it is to give advice on health before any conspiracy theories on the internet
That is because you have a personal view that trust authority and also a risk attitude where you see, for you personally, the virus risk larger than the vaccine risk. I am dbl jabbed and agree on the risk point. I do not trust authority. I learned enough on my MBA re that but that is another story.
Not everyone is the same however and they are under no obligation to risk their lives for you or I. Are they? Should I expect you do do something that may harm you financially, healthwise or any other way to improve my personal lot when I can manage a lot of that risk myself?
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Just now, Tomatasauce said:
That will get you nowhere! One man will achieve absolutely zilch to corona measures surely you know that🤦🏻♂️
these counts are out every Sunday in Amsterdam come rain hail or shine, I would listen to their arguments because of the efforts they go to, but cunts moaning on the internet amongst mostly vaccinated members deserve to have the piss taken out of them
It's that attitude that will lead to serfdom.
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Just now, RFC55 said:
Point proven.
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5 minutes ago, Tomatasauce said:
What are you doing about it? Never mind my boots
So you are happy with point 1. Yes?
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2 minutes ago, RFC55 said:
Not really
Aw grow up ffs. You have very rarely contributed anything intelligent to a debate as far as I can see.
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1 minute ago, Tomatasauce said:
What are you doing about it? Never mind my boots
Well I have written to my mp for starters. have already written to a venue cancelling a do cause the wanted covid passports for Xmas. I will not attend any such venues. Not decided how I will deal with if approached by some chancer at the football.
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4 minutes ago, RFC55 said:
He won't be the pissed stained soap dodgers tramp that you shat yourself from in the town mate.
You'll be safe
As I said. Childish.
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3 minutes ago, PGWoodwind said:
No need to bring race in to it
Childish. Hence the reason you fall for this. You do not think things through.dont like saying that to a bear but there we are.
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18 minutes ago, Tomatasauce said:
Who really cares, the people your asking this don’t make the rules! the law, if it stays that way (and I can’t see them backtracking completely now) means unvaccinated fans aren’t getting in, including my da and brother who are both season ticket holders, tough shit! they clearly aren’t happy but I’ve not heard them greetin about it, they know their options and it’s their choice to accept them or not I’d guess
id be interested to know what the bears den discriminated posters are doing about the current situation they find themselves in, moaning on here, Is that it?
Well if you are:
1. Happy for anyone to stick whatever they want in your body regardless of whether there is really a benefit to YOU
2. Be discriminated against at the whim of a politician . Just now it is covid. Next time it will be something else.
then fill your boots.
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Just now, PGWoodwind said:
hahaha fuck sake
Well quantify things then. Prove me wrong.
Notice u don't answer the weight question. Everything black and white with you eh?
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2 minutes ago, PGWoodwind said:
So you're asking if people are at risk from me if I don't have the virus?
At risk of what?
That was going to be my question to u? Assuming the guy next to me ( eg you ) does not have the virus am I totally safe?
What proof do I have that you aren't violent and won't attack me for saying the wrong thing? Do Rangers check criminal history before entry?
What about if you just returned from somewhere with yellow fever? Are the club checking your travel records and you had yellow fever, ebola etc vaccinations?
And to be clear your position is that re covid, everyone else is at same risk etc other regardless of weight, health , vax status etc?
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1 minute ago, PGWoodwind said:
Have you made a mistake typing that?
No. Read my previous posts again. Clear and present danger was the criteria remember.
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4 minutes ago, PGWoodwind said:
Did I say "deadly risk" aye?
Don't think so.
So you are not a deadly risk so we don't need vaxxed if we don't want to be then?? Penny dropping yet?
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2 minutes ago, PGWoodwind said:
Did I say "deadly risk" aye?
Don't think so.
So just how much risk is a healthy dbl vaxxed person at from you if you don't have the virus?
How much risk is a healthy dbl vaxxed person at if you do have the virus?
Does that risk level change with any of the factors I mentioned age, weight etc etc?
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2 minutes ago, PGWoodwind said:
Well you've now changed it to "mortal danger" and I don't know what you mean by that but if you're sticking with just being a danger then yes that is the case - ask your doctor if knowing the truth on it will affect whether you go to games or not.
Mortal danger means at high risk of death. So even if you were not carrying the virus you are a deadly risk to everyone else. That is what you have just said. Educate yourself. Ffs.
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11 minutes ago, PGWoodwind said:
Yes - all others.
They could protect themselves by not going to the game but why should the ones who are doing the decent thing be forced to miss out?
So let's be clear. You are saying that if you are unvaxxed, go to the game (whether carrying the virus or not) then u are a danger ro every single supporter regardless of:
1. Their age
2. Whether they themselves are vaxxed or not
3. Whether they have covid antibodies from previous infection
4. Whether they are fit or unfit? Overweight or slim
5. Whether they have underlying health conditions or not?
Your position is everyone is in mortal danger regardless of the above. Is that the case?
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1 hour ago, mitre_mouldmaster said:
Cyclists are not allowed to use the motorways whilst on their bikes.
They are not being discriminated against. They are not having their freedom of access or human rights restricted just because they fail to obey the rules.
If the cyclist decides to instead, go sit a test and get a driving licence, then pay the government some money for road tax etc, and get a car, they are then allowed to enter the motorway in their car. Or they could hire a taxi, or other form of motor vehicle transport to do it.
They would however be denied access on their bike, because they are not following the rules.
To be honest, im not 100% sure why I posted this, cunts were going all off on different 'car' angles and I wanted to join in.
I know why you posted it. Cause your critical thinking skills are non existent.
In taking a pushbike on a motorway, would you be presenting a clear and present danger to yourself and/or other road users? Are there any groups of users on the motorway you would not be a danger to? Would you say that that danger would be mitigatable by the other road users? If I was in my car and you on your bike, what could I do on a busy motorway to protect myself? Not a lot due to the difference in expected speeds.
Now, if you go to the football without being dbl vaxxed, are you a clear and present danger to others? All others or just proportion realistically. what could others do to protect themselves from you if they are worried about you?
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5 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:
Figured us out, also had an easy start with the scum being so shite but they will continue to strengthen and throw money at their problems - we won't. We are reliant on these players getting their shit together very soon.
Agree. Lack of confidence in front of goal from some players is shocking. Always in from the side and even with 10 men teams can defend it
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53 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said:
I don't really think it is that though.
Firstly, if they bring in a law stating that it is not legal, then it would not be lawful business.
If for instance they were to introduce a law to affirm our values as a Christian country and not allow anything to be bought or sold on a Sunday, this would interfere with all the same things you say, but would not be against human rights. It would obviously not happen, but it still fits the same criteria as you lay out.
It also does not fit the criteria for being classes as legal discrimination, so the "minority" angle does not really hold legal weight. I would agree if they included people who could not be vaccinated, but these people are excluded.
I don't agree with the vaccine passports, as I don't think they will actually increase the numbers taking the vaccine. I don't however think that they are against human rights.
Also, tell me. Do you agree with the statements that man's prime reason for existing is the pursuit of individual life,love and happiness? Any law that unreasonably curtails that is wrong?
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52 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said:
I don't really think it is that though.
Firstly, if they bring in a law stating that it is not legal, then it would not be lawful business.
If for instance they were to introduce a law to affirm our values as a Christian country and not allow anything to be bought or sold on a Sunday, this would interfere with all the same things you say, but would not be against human rights. It would obviously not happen, but it still fits the same criteria as you lay out.
It also does not fit the criteria for being classes as legal discrimination, so the "minority" angle does not really hold legal weight. I would agree if they included people who could not be vaccinated, but these people are excluded.
I don't agree with the vaccine passports, as I don't think they will actually increase the numbers taking the vaccine. I don't however think that they are against human rights.
See, you are paying far to much attention to laws. Can laws be just or unjust? I would argue yes, they can be either. If it were Jews that were prohibited from going to the football instead of people that saw the vaccine/ doing what you want as a risk to their personal health, would you say that was just?
I take it you agree that laws can change? What is just in natural law however is much less mutable.
For the law to be sacrosanct and to be absolutely flawless, u have to believe that those that make the law is flawless. So tell me , is sturgeon flawless?
Now laws are important. Bur a key tenant has always been they do not discriminate. They guide people's behaviour while causing no harm to them. Covid passports break those.
Hopefully matchday vaccines next
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They said the benefits did not outweigh the risks for the young.
Whitty then made up this cock and bull about doing it for their "mental health".
To be clear. I am not anti vax. I have had both jabs. I am against mandated vaccines however and forced divulgance of health information.
Lastly, u seem to treat everyone in authority as your friend and someone to be trusted. That is incredibly foolish. Including the "experts".
Experts and those in authority are all people with their own mix of benign/toxic motives. Just because they are in authority does not make them incorruptable or omniscient. I give you:
Shipman
Beverly allit
Sarah Everard killer
The developers of thalidomide.