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5 hours ago, BigDak said:
There’s some amount of bed wetters on here. I appreciate with everything that went on since 2012 we’ll all have a bit of PTSD but people need to remember it’s not normal to run away with the league without challenge.
Last year for us and Rogers’ two seasons for them are outliers. A normal season should be run much closer.
The fact is we’re still top and we’ve only just completed the first round of 4 games against everyone.
I’m not saying people aren’t right to be annoyed/concerned with our form - although arguably it goes a bit beyond form given that it’s been all season - but it’s hardly time to concede the league to the bheasts.
It seems we’ve forgotten what it feels like to be on top and have a fight on our hands.
I think to be honest the biggest thing on most people minds, even if not conscious of it, is that we do not have confidence in the management team to change things other than personnel. If the opposition do have a firm view of how we will play then they will have a firm view of how to best nullify that with the players they have.
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Dreadful news. Rest in peace Walter. Your achievements for us are immortal.
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11 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said:
All of the above is wrong.
You sound like a bit of a racist to be honest. You cant assume that people are bad just for wanting to get into the country. The passport is there to stop anyone, good or bad from entering when they dont have the right to.
The vaccine passports are there to keep stupid people out and away from the good guys.
Like debating with a pigeon. So what exactly do you think, in your data analyst, no actual thinking head, do you think defines who has "a right to be in a country"?
What are the attributes of someone who has the right to go from here to France?
What is the ultimate cmon factor with someone accepted into North Korea and France?
Is anyone ever refused a passport?
Would someone with a valid passport ever get stopped and lifted entering a country? If so why?
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5 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said:
Is the point in asking someone how many drinks they have had not to ascertain the level of their intoxication?
Intoxication is a medical condition.
Also, you should be aware that im more or less 100% taking the piss with this, and also its a complete cunt-take on the ones that complain about providing a QR code being the same as divulging your entire medical history.
You see I am arguing with simpletons, im having to bring the points down to their level.
Vaccine passports probably dont work. They are however not discriminatory in any form of legal context, they are also not abusing human rights or requiring people to hand over their medical history.
It is one very specific point, have you had the vaccine, thats it. The passports from other nations should appear even worse to the folk taking this argument. They actually tell cunts if you have had the virus as an acceptable way of entering. Again completely sensible, but cunts hating on our passports must hate the foreign ones even more.
You are a fucking zoomer. You understand the concept of nationhood? That passports are a way to keep bad people from getting in and harming your populace ? Yes?
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Just now, ger4life_1872 said:
Cool so should we just exclude children with down syndrome since it doesn't suit your argument
Exclude them from what ? Clubs and hobbies? No.
I do not see your niece situation as anything like the same however. That is just a venue saying if you want to do this hobby here we need to know you are fit for the venues benefit, not so much hers.
Would a speedway club let you participate without a safety helmet?
She gets a direct benefit from the venue being aware of her condition.
What direct benefit do I get from someone else knowing my vax status?
And before u answer guy in front of my son caught it and was already double vax'd. Do not getting covid is not one of them.
This shite is from the gov remember.
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6 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said:
You said that all you have to do is buy a ticket to do anything else , that's not true , I've proven that as a fact and still you won't admit you were talking shite
RUBBISH. So probably less than 0.5 % of the population fall into the situation of having to give that, sorry having someone else give their info over. I have never had to do it. Most brits have never had to I would wager. By a fucking large majority.
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3 minutes ago, crazy bob swollenbaws said:
Aw ffs . You just admitted you don't give any of your own health info. You give someone else's.
You really don't see the point do you.
Could I have a copy of your health info and I will give that? I am OK with that.
@ger4life_1872
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9 minutes ago, The Dude said:
Then any crank could jist make one up. This way its likely easier from a GDPR standpoint.
OK and what would be Rangers motivation for wanting this do you think?
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26 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said:
I'm not reading all that bob , you were wrong and just keep waffling instead of admitting that
Aw ffs . You just admitted you don't give any of your own health info. You give someone else's.
You really don't see the point do you.
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27 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said:
Wow , you shouldn't assume so much , nope that letter will be required on every trip
Why would I need a letter from my doctor to take my niece to a trampoline park
So to sum up then,
A minor therefore not full adult responsibility for own actions
A known underlying health issue
wanting to take part in an activity with a direct physical impact that could be made serious because of the underlying health issue and no way to mitigate against that issue.
Whereas you dont need to provide any medical info about yourself at all presumably because you do not see a risk to yourself?
Re your question, tell me why would I need to provide medical info about me when I have no underlying health condition, am pretty much at my ideal weight, have mitigated my covid risk when all I want to do is sit in a seat? It is exactly the same principle.
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1 minute ago, Willis said:
So now asking how many drinks someone has is a medical question? But a vaccine isn't a medical procedure?
Apparently
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Just now, ger4life_1872 said:
1 of the children in my care
Ok, well my sympathies with that child mate but I have to say that you are being slightly sparse with the truth. Again there is a clear and direct link between the activity and the condition being monitored. That is different. I assume it was a one off check to allow that child to join your club rather than being checked every single trip?
What health information did you have to divulge about yourself direct from your doctor to allow you to take these kids there?
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3 minutes ago, The Dude said:
They could have introduced it before the infrastructure was available? Most supermarkets don't have security staff. Generally larger ones or ones in high-footfall or high-risk areas will, but many, many supermarkets have no security staff whatsoever.
Eh no. Clutching at fucking straws you are. If they have such a hard on for passports they could just get fans to sign a one off letter saying they have the jabs. If not offer them their money back. Infrastructure not needed.
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3 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said:
A letter from gp confirming a screening test developed by the British gymnastics association for Atlanto-Axial instability had been completed and participation was approved
I see and was this letter written about yourself or one or more of the children in your care?
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7 minutes ago, The Dude said:
Can you point me to where Rangers have said they don't want to do it and are having it "forced on them by the state"?
Same reason staff in a supermarket don't challenge shoplifters generally, they are told not to for their own safety.
Again. A total lack of understanding of business.
If Rangers wanted it they would have introduced earlier. There is a cost associated with everything and businesses always try to remove cost. That increases profits or allows them to complete with lower prices or a combination of the two. So tell me why they did not introduce earlier. Please.
Well you know, most supermarkets have security staff. I have seen them challenge shoplifters and people when the door detectors beep. So I think you are clutching at straws. Most people without masks dont look that threatening.
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13 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said:
They often ask "How much have you had to drink tonight?" to establish the level of chemical intoxication the individual is under. This is to establish the level of inebriation caused by the drug in their system.
The person will answer and the security staff will use their training and experience to work out their medical status and make a judgement on if they are to be allowed in. If you admit that you have taken what is considered a very large dose of medicinal alcohol, they may bar you on that reason alone.
Asking how much you have had to drink is the definition of asking about your medical history. It is to establish your medical state at that point in time.
And you count that as medical information?
Effin 1984 doublespeak right enough.
Will that fact that you had two pints that night be on the records in your doctors office? Will they ever make it onto your doctors records? Are you forced to show them a record from your doctors office? Dont be so effin stupid.
Really stretching your credibility now.
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2 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said:
Must have imagined the medical questionnaire and waivers I needed to fill in before I could take kids into flip out
No, You "filled in a form". What NHS paperwork did you have to show?
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3 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said:
Bouncers on the door have asked people about their medical situation for years. If you dont answer satisfactorily, they are within their rights to knock you back.
It is also illegal to serve people on the basis of their medical condition.
Like what questions ? "Excuse me mate , got proof you never had mumps?"
And what proof are the customers required to show?
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7 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said:
No I choose not to let you out of admiting you were wrong , wouldn't worry it happens to us all
ffs none of the examples need you to divulge medical information!
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1 hour ago, The Dude said:
That doesn't answer the question (or even come close to attempting to). In all your wailing about taking rights away, why are your rights as a customer supercede a business' right to choose who enters their premises?
No business will go under because you stop using them. If they all stopped allowing you to purchase their goods or services, you'd be fucked a LOT sooner than they are.
Any business has total freedom not to sell their product. They will pay an associated price for that in loss of sales.
You seem to ignore a few points re this however:
1. this is not Rangers (the business) that want to do this. It is being forced on them by the state. Would Rangers introduce this if not for SNP? So not sure why you are painting the club as the bad ones here?
2. Why is it when I go to my supermarket (virtually every single day) no-one challenges me for not wearing a mask? Sign at the door says no mask no entry. Aye right. I assume you have never been in business or else you would know that customers are hard to win, important to keep and are the life blood of any business. I know people that work there and they say they are just going through the motions. Dont want the pain from the authorities. They all know it is nonsense however.
Let me turn your question around, why does your health need to impact others desire to not have more state control on their lives than necessary? You are the problem, not them.
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58 minutes ago, Adoniram said:
What has that got to do with the forced imposition of a passport that has no health benefits.
There are none.
France, Israel, Canada...all seeing massive drops in business from people unwilling to be a part of this apartheid.
Clowns like you are just as much to blame as Sturgeon because you're weak, uneducated and unable to see the bigger picture.
They remind me of O'briens quote from 1984 re the proles:
"They're content with their ignorance and their simple lives. "
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2 hours ago, ger4life_1872 said:
Again I'm not reading all that , you tried to make the point that were British and that means we're free to enter anywhere aslong as we buy a ticket and this is the first time ever that people would be asked about their health to enter/participate , that's untrue
You choose not to participate because you cant. You cannot handle detail. You cannot differentiate between things if they are not black and white.
Cling to your tenuous argument mate if thats what floats your boat
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Just now, Willis said:
Its true but its a bit daft to say life is back to normal then compare attending a football match to jumping out of a plane
Its not true mate. The skydiving form does not ask for proof of any medical status. Is a self declaration form. No need to have doctor certificate etc.
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