UnionMen

Because rangers fans gave birth to the billy boys as a football chant, "we are the billy boys, youll know us by our noise", it's a common football chant but 1 we've long done better than everyone else and every other version. My favourite moment in all my days going to games was right up the very back row of the CR before Inter Milan as the players were coming out the tunnel and TBB nearly bust my ear drums, the hairs on the neck standing up. I reckon most people don't really care too much about what they sing they just join in with whatever and go along with the atmosphere. It matters to me though. I've studied history at higher education level and still read the occasional book (reading Empire: How Britain Made the Modern World by Niall Ferguson right now, very good ), I've good alot better knowledge than your average bear when it comes to our repitoire yet I find the songs pretty hollow and irrelevant. I've never been to Northern Ireland (maybe ill visit some day). Whilste appreciate the battle of the boyne's historical significant to our current monarchy & country it's no more relevant to us than say, Dundee. Singing songs like BMG are a joke to me, County Down is not "home" to me. My father never told me to join the Young Citizen Vol. and never told me to select my firearm. I often poke fun at the tramps by calling them "plastic paddies" because the majority of them probably know the words to every stinking Rebel song going but probably haven't set foot in Ireland, and if they truly believed n the republican shite they spout would make like Mad Phil, do us all a favour and take the P&O. And to that end I don't want to be a hyprocrite by spouting tunes about the hills of county down every time I go to the game. It's funny because the tims recentyl got their panties in a bunch when squinty eyes said at a press conf. that he "irish republicanism" is not a part of Celtic FC's history (even though he and his marketing department lap up their fans bigotry). If you come on here and tell people that ulster, loyalism and the troubles isn't connected to Rangers you get the same up-in-arms response.

Warburton received alot of plaudits for the style of football he had Brentford playing.

I'm not sirb, although i don't mind admitting seeing the walkouts at 0-3 did piss me off. Above all else, the matchday atmosphere matters to me most, just fucking bored joining in with DW and other pish songs about norn ire, the troubles, the seige of derry. Like i said earler, i enjoy a good sash bash from time to time but in truth it means very little to me, just hollow words about history I painstakingly studied at university. I much prefer newer tunes like 4MHAD. I also find it fuckin annoying how people get their panties in a twist when you criticise the dominance of ulster/loyalist based songs as if their fuckin lifeswork is in question.

aye that's a good one, whit's the lyrics again? And you honestly believe they would? I reckon well over 50% of them wouldn't have a fuckin clue. Whenever i hear the sash sung people tend to just mumble after "worn at derry....". The fact of the matter is that most punters in Ibrox on a saturday afternoon don't have a fuckin clue where Aughrim is.

great statement, they're right, time the board got some spine.

We do have that cap, the wage budget is decided as a % related to turnover & expenditure.

I disagree, songs like the Billy Boys & Follow Follow would be well ahead in those stakes. Btw how many of our fans that belt it out do you think could circle Derry on a UK map?

Did i say anyone couldn't?

You sound like a petulant bellend.

We do have a wage cap, it's what's we can't afford. I don't think people in football get the concept of wage caps, associations apply them to members. For example, the SPFLA could make it 100k a week for the entire squad and every club would have to budget accordingly. A bit like fantasy football, spend your budget wisely.

There was a visible improvement under MCCall. McCoists team played the worst, most horrible, insipid football i've ever had the displeasure of watching.

You don't like me posting back to folk who disagree with me, but you want me banned because you disagree with me? ?

We take the blame too. How long before "super ally" stopped ringing out at ibrox? The ub and two have been excellent the last few years and been the only highlight of going to games but they chanted it plenty. Had mccoist been someone unconnected to the club we would have kicked the doors down to get him out. The fans kept him in a job out of misplaced loyalty to a rangers legend.

Is that you, wee man?

Do i not? you challenging me to a history exam?

Do you not feel a bit of a trumpet singing "I'll see again the lights of home" when the hills of county down mean as much to you as they do to me (nothing) ?

McCall had some structure and we played like a football side. Never the less he wasn't successful, but he's a manager with proven success. McCoist is a former player and a Question of Sport TV personality.

unbelievable freekick, in injury time, seconds away from relegation. Top corner... that's what you call steppin up to the plate.

I didn't say we should stop, well, unless you're part of the shitebag loyal that thinks it OK to walk out on your team with 48mins on the clock. What gets on my nerves is our song book being dominated by songs of ulster & the troubles. I enjoy a sash bash like every bear now and again but there's far more to this club than singing about 'the hills of county down', to which i've never seen, and im guessin you probably haven't either.

naw

Love PA but StB has had it's day

My old boy has been watching the games since he was old enough to climb the fences as a nipper, and since the days were you wouldn't find a man at the fitbaw without a bunnet on. From Greig to Jardine, seen them play from yards away, met them. Never once heard him sing Derry's Wall's, Build my Gallows etc... So you tell me, how many fans need to sing a shite song about the seige of Derry for it be an official Rangers song.

probably as is. just blowing off some steam after a shite few days. I'm being honest though, the Hibs game was the best i've been to in years in terms of atmosphere. Beating Motherwell 2-0 in the 3rd division in the cup was outstanding as well in the Broomloan. Last thursday was a fucking let down though, and i'm just fucking bored of fans who think their idea of building an atmosphere is singing something Northern Ireland related (Derry's Walls, BMG, FA), when in fact, the vast majority of fans in the fucking place has never set foot in Ireland and leaves early cause we're losing or they don't much fancy the subway que. I call a spade a spade.

Did pretty well, would liked to have kept him, probably our best player but not CL class. Not sure he'll make it at EPL level.