BLUEDIGNITY 33,792 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Some folk just don't understand the concept of internet fishing. Anyway great post minstral, hopefully it will come to pass when the current charlatans are gone. Maybe even restore our earlier signing practices, the ones that won us a European Trophy? Now that's fishing. We won a European cup for singing ? Aye, The Sash won the 1972 Eurovision, did you not know that? Luxemburg won it with Apres Toi, in edinburgh We chased that mob up the Gallowgate ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Church attendance is at an all time low. 30-40 years ago, the churches were full. Now, you are a freak if you discuss matters of a spiritual nature. I think its a shame really. I think it's a misconception to talk about religion in terms of church attendance (not that it's completely irrelevant). Firstly, plenty of believers don't go to church, and secondly religions are social/ cultural phenomena, not just spiritual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 You can not be a protestant until you have been baptised into the Presbyterian church That is utter bollox. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterC 12,487 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 You can not be a protestant until you have been baptised into the Presbyterian church That is utter bollox. It does help though. Interestingly (or perhaps not) I was the first minsters son to be baptised in the church I was baptised in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 You can not be a protestant until you have been baptised into the Presbyterian church That is utter bollox. It does help though. Interestingly (or perhaps not) I was the first minsters son to be baptised in the church I was baptised in. Not the point. It may help you being a Presbyterian, but you don't have to be a Presbyterian to be a Protestant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterC 12,487 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 You can not be a protestant until you have been baptised into the Presbyterian church That is utter bollox. It does help though. Interestingly (or perhaps not) I was the first minsters son to be baptised in the church I was baptised in. Not the point. It may help you being a Presbyterian, but you don't have to be a Presbyterian to be a Protestant Thats true enough mate, bearing in mind Pastor Jack Glass's Zion Baptist Church which says its protestant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Thats true enough mate, bearing in mind Pastor Jack Glass's Zion Baptist Church which says its protestant. Ah the old days, Pastor G selling The Scottish Protestant View outside Ibrox..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterC 12,487 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Thats true enough mate, bearing in mind Pastor Jack Glass's Zion Baptist Church which says its protestant. Ah the old days, Pastor G selling The Scottish Protestant View outside Ibrox..... I'd love it if he tried selling it outside Darkeid, now that would've been a belter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Thats true enough mate, bearing in mind Pastor Jack Glass's Zion Baptist Church which says its protestant. Ah the old days, Pastor G selling The Scottish Protestant View outside Ibrox..... I'd love it if he tried selling it outside Darkeid, now that would've been a belter It's a Club open to all....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterC 12,487 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Thats true enough mate, bearing in mind Pastor Jack Glass's Zion Baptist Church which says its protestant. Ah the old days, Pastor G selling The Scottish Protestant View outside Ibrox..... I'd love it if he tried selling it outside Darkeid, now that would've been a belter It's a Club open to all....... All except those who take a pride in being Scottish and/or British Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 A Protestant club open to all cultures yet we are classed as the bigots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,792 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 A Protestant club open to all cultures yet we are classed as the bigots. Gie's the Sash Minst and forget these people who will disappear like snaw aff a dyke wance they realise that The People are not for turning ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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D'Artagnan 13,319 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Quite a revealing thread. Sometimes the clue is not in whats said but in whats not been said. Minstral's opening post was clear and unequivocal and yet throughout the course of the thread it has been hijacked to take on a different nature. It seems some Bears are determined to airbrush any connections the Orange Order has had with our club, or to deny that the Order themselves are one of a number of Protestant institutions. I thought revisionist history was the domain of the tims. The facts are there. They cannot be denied. Live with it...and if you cant...I would respectfully suggest you find another club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theweebluenose 4,335 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Quite a revealing thread. Sometimes the clue is not in whats said but in whats not been said. Minstral's opening post was clear and unequivocal and yet throughout the course of the thread it has been hijacked to take on a different nature. It seems some Bears are determined to airbrush any connections the Orange Order has had with our club, or to deny that the Order themselves are one of a number of Protestant institutions. I thought revisionist history was the domain of the tims. The facts are there. They cannot be denied. Live with it...and if you cant...I would respectfully suggest you find another club. Well said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMS 27 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Quite a revealing thread. Sometimes the clue is not in whats said but in whats not been said. You mean the way Minstral keeps spinning when asked a straight question? Minstral's opening post was clear and unequivocal and yet throughout the course of the thread it has been hijacked to take on a different nature. Anytime Minstral is actually pressed on the original post he fudges and plays his 'we've always been a Protestant club' line as if it is a magic get out of jail card rather than answer the fact that the Orange order are largely irrelevant to almost the entire population of the country today. His opening post is nonsense, fishing or not it's still a ridiculous suggestion. It seems some Bears are determined to airbrush any connections the Orange Order has had with our club, or to deny that the Order themselves are one of a number of Protestant institutions. Not true, some Bears just aren't able to look in any direction but backwards though. I thought revisionist history was the domain of the tims. Who has revised history? The facts are there. Indeed they are, the Orange Order are unrepresentative of the Protestant population of Scotland, be them nominal or active, fact. They are now a minority interest group, fact. To suggest they should have anything to do with Rangers these days is a denial of reality, fact. They cannot be denied. And yet I think some will try.... Live with it...and if you cant...I would respectfully suggest you find another club. Well done, it's so much nicer when you use 'respectfully' in your insult. It seems that you are the one struggling to 'live with it'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 Quite a revealing thread. Sometimes the clue is not in whats said but in whats not been said. You mean the way Minstral keeps spinning when asked a straight question? Minstral's opening post was clear and unequivocal and yet throughout the course of the thread it has been hijacked to take on a different nature. Anytime Minstral is actually pressed on the original post he fudges and plays his 'we've always been a Protestant club' line as if it is a magic get out of jail card rather than answer the fact that the Orange order are largely irrelevant to almost the entire population of the country today. His opening post is nonsense, fishing or not it's still a ridiculous suggestion. It seems some Bears are determined to airbrush any connections the Orange Order has had with our club, or to deny that the Order themselves are one of a number of Protestant institutions. Not true, some Bears just aren't able to look in any direction but backwards though. I thought revisionist history was the domain of the tims. Who has revised history? The facts are there. Indeed they are, the Orange Order are unrepresentative of the Protestant population of Scotland, be them nominal or active, fact. They are now a minority interest group, fact. To suggest they should have anything to do with Rangers these days is a denial of reality, fact. They cannot be denied. And yet I think some will try.... Live with it...and if you cant...I would respectfully suggest you find another club. Well done, it's so much nicer when you use 'respectfully' in your insult. It seems that you are the one struggling to 'live with it'. You have not got a clue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brissybear 50 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Quite a revealing thread. Sometimes the clue is not in whats said but in whats not been said. You mean the way Minstral keeps spinning when asked a straight question? Minstral's opening post was clear and unequivocal and yet throughout the course of the thread it has been hijacked to take on a different nature. Anytime Minstral is actually pressed on the original post he fudges and plays his 'we've always been a Protestant club' line as if it is a magic get out of jail card rather than answer the fact that the Orange order are largely irrelevant to almost the entire population of the country today. His opening post is nonsense, fishing or not it's still a ridiculous suggestion. It seems some Bears are determined to airbrush any connections the Orange Order has had with our club, or to deny that the Order themselves are one of a number of Protestant institutions. Not true, some Bears just aren't able to look in any direction but backwards though. I thought revisionist history was the domain of the tims. Who has revised history? The facts are there. Indeed they are, the Orange Order are unrepresentative of the Protestant population of Scotland, be them nominal or active, fact. They are now a minority interest group, fact. To suggest they should have anything to do with Rangers these days is a denial of reality, fact. They cannot be denied. And yet I think some will try.... Live with it...and if you cant...I would respectfully suggest you find another club. Well done, it's so much nicer when you use 'respectfully' in your insult. It seems that you are the one struggling to 'live with it'. You have not got a clue. I disagree. At least he responds in detail and deals in facts. You pass off your opinion as facts which is entirely different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 Quite a revealing thread. Sometimes the clue is not in whats said but in whats not been said. You mean the way Minstral keeps spinning when asked a straight question? Minstral's opening post was clear and unequivocal and yet throughout the course of the thread it has been hijacked to take on a different nature. Anytime Minstral is actually pressed on the original post he fudges and plays his 'we've always been a Protestant club' line as if it is a magic get out of jail card rather than answer the fact that the Orange order are largely irrelevant to almost the entire population of the country today. His opening post is nonsense, fishing or not it's still a ridiculous suggestion. It seems some Bears are determined to airbrush any connections the Orange Order has had with our club, or to deny that the Order themselves are one of a number of Protestant institutions. Not true, some Bears just aren't able to look in any direction but backwards though. I thought revisionist history was the domain of the tims. Who has revised history? The facts are there. Indeed they are, the Orange Order are unrepresentative of the Protestant population of Scotland, be them nominal or active, fact. They are now a minority interest group, fact. To suggest they should have anything to do with Rangers these days is a denial of reality, fact. They cannot be denied. And yet I think some will try.... Live with it...and if you cant...I would respectfully suggest you find another club. Well done, it's so much nicer when you use 'respectfully' in your insult. It seems that you are the one struggling to 'live with it'. You have not got a clue. I disagree. At least he responds in detail and deals in facts. You pass off your opinion as facts which is entirely different. What facts has he given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brissybear 50 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Quite a revealing thread. Sometimes the clue is not in whats said but in whats not been said. You mean the way Minstral keeps spinning when asked a straight question? Minstral's opening post was clear and unequivocal and yet throughout the course of the thread it has been hijacked to take on a different nature. Anytime Minstral is actually pressed on the original post he fudges and plays his 'we've always been a Protestant club' line as if it is a magic get out of jail card rather than answer the fact that the Orange order are largely irrelevant to almost the entire population of the country today. His opening post is nonsense, fishing or not it's still a ridiculous suggestion. It seems some Bears are determined to airbrush any connections the Orange Order has had with our club, or to deny that the Order themselves are one of a number of Protestant institutions. Not true, some Bears just aren't able to look in any direction but backwards though. I thought revisionist history was the domain of the tims. Who has revised history? The facts are there. Indeed they are, the Orange Order are unrepresentative of the Protestant population of Scotland, be them nominal or active, fact. They are now a minority interest group, fact. To suggest they should have anything to do with Rangers these days is a denial of reality, fact. They cannot be denied. And yet I think some will try.... Live with it...and if you cant...I would respectfully suggest you find another club. Well done, it's so much nicer when you use 'respectfully' in your insult. It seems that you are the one struggling to 'live with it'. You have not got a clue. I disagree. At least he responds in detail and deals in facts. You pass off your opinion as facts which is entirely different. What facts has he given. Indeed they are, the Orange Order are unrepresentative of the Protestant population of Scotland, be them nominal or active, fact. They are now a minority interest group, fact. To suggest they should have anything to do with Rangers these days is a denial of reality, fact. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 Quite a revealing thread. Sometimes the clue is not in whats said but in whats not been said. You mean the way Minstral keeps spinning when asked a straight question? Minstral's opening post was clear and unequivocal and yet throughout the course of the thread it has been hijacked to take on a different nature. Anytime Minstral is actually pressed on the original post he fudges and plays his 'we've always been a Protestant club' line as if it is a magic get out of jail card rather than answer the fact that the Orange order are largely irrelevant to almost the entire population of the country today. His opening post is nonsense, fishing or not it's still a ridiculous suggestion. It seems some Bears are determined to airbrush any connections the Orange Order has had with our club, or to deny that the Order themselves are one of a number of Protestant institutions. Not true, some Bears just aren't able to look in any direction but backwards though. I thought revisionist history was the domain of the tims. Who has revised history? The facts are there. Indeed they are, the Orange Order are unrepresentative of the Protestant population of Scotland, be them nominal or active, fact. They are now a minority interest group, fact. To suggest they should have anything to do with Rangers these days is a denial of reality, fact. They cannot be denied. And yet I think some will try.... Live with it...and if you cant...I would respectfully suggest you find another club. Well done, it's so much nicer when you use 'respectfully' in your insult. It seems that you are the one struggling to 'live with it'. You have not got a clue. I disagree. At least he responds in detail and deals in facts. You pass off your opinion as facts which is entirely different. What facts has he given. Indeed they are, the Orange Order are unrepresentative of the Protestant population of Scotland, be them nominal or active, fact. They are now a minority interest group, fact. To suggest they should have anything to do with Rangers these days is a denial of reality, fact. This. Where have i said that they have anything to do with our club at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMS 27 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Ah Minstral, still spinning I see. Read it again and look at the tense please. Your opening post Minstral, that's where you suggest it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvager 498 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Just agree to disagree. This is never going to be solved here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 Ah Minstral, still spinning I see. Read it again and look at the tense please. Your opening post Minstral, that's where you suggest it. Read it again and tell me where i said we still are connected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brissybear 50 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Just agree to disagree. This is never going to be solved here. I agree! :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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