Jimfanciesthedude 24,934 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 1) If we lost 2-1, then 0-0 in the 2nd leg would mean elimination. 2) If we lost 2-1, then a 2-1 win in the 2nd leg would mean penalties.3) If we lost 2-1, then any single goal victory in the 2nd leg more than 2-1 (e.g. 3-2, 4-3, 5-4, etc) would also mean elimination.As it stands, 1) = penalties and 2) and 3) = winsThe example you gave (a 1-0 win) is the only example where they're the same and we still go through.the thing with tonight is that 1 goal next week to PSV will probably do it for them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
watp1690rfc 32 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Home goals don't, Walter and Co. The/this negativity is a bit like getting used to pain or poverty/being on the bread line, one gets used to it but knows its awful. At the very least, keeping it tight but in the last thirty minutes having Wyylde on the left, Healy through the middle and Weiss on the right? Well Weiss on the right would be far too sensible but thats for another thread.Haste the summer and Coisty (hopefully) *looks to sky* being happy with creating chances and scoring goals at home and away...So, I'm not happy. We should be better that being shit scared of everybody, Europe or St Mirren.So we win 1 nil at home and go through then. Some people r never happy. MON THE BEARS!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,934 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Must I explain this... really?...Currently, 0-0 at home and its extratime/pens. We would be out had todays game been 2-1.Currently if we win 2-1, we go through. We would be in extra time/pens had it gone 2-1 today.If we win by one goal with results like 3-2/4-3 and so on, we would go through. We are out however if it was 2-1 today.Only results in which it wouldnt matter if it was 2-1 or 0-0 tonight... would be any score draw, a 1-0 win, or them winning. I could have told you this when I was still wearing nappies you say that as if we are a free flowing team at ibrox in europe 3 home goals in 4 european ties this season doesnt suggest that we are capable of scoring 2 goals next week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,934 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 So we win 1 nil at home and go through then. Some people r never happy. MON THE BEARS!!we've kept 1 clean sheet at ibrox in europe this season, and a piss poor sporting lisbon still managed a goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogbg 20 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 the thing with tonight is that 1 goal next week to PSV will probably do it for themI agree, and we'll need a great performance still to get through, but he was saying it's no better than a 2-1 loss.It's better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 under no circumstanced should we have created a situation where psv could play us on the break. also people do realise psv now need to score to go through as well and they arent at home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,934 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 PSV can now do what we did every second leg on the way to manchestersit in and hit us on the breakpotentially next week will be THE most boring game ever as both teams sit in their own half Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djgazbcm 55 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 a 0-0 is a good result away ,but its also a good result for them ,they have won 3 times away from home in europeand where our goals are gonna come from is hard to see..at 0-0 i wouldnt be surprised if walter shuts up shop again next week ,gonna be a very nervy night me thinks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappa 24 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I'll smite whoever I want, afterall as you put it I am the mighty smiter, If you can't see the good of tonight's result then you are better of supporting a team like Blackpool.This is Rangers and we strive for perfection. But Tonight we'll take 0-0 and set ourself up for being the 12th man at Ibrox and will our team onto the next round Dublin hear we come, no need to pick faults tonight as it's not merited.There's always a need to pick faults. Twice they had a free header at the back post. If you don't pick faults when mistakes are made then they'll continue to happen! Aye, I'd be better off supporting Blackpool because I value a 1-1 draw away in Europe twice as much as I do a 0-0. I can totally see the good in tonight's result. I'm not suggesting Smith just send out these players to play attacking football because they simply can't in Europe. I personally think though that he should be building a more attack minded team, it's not unreasonable to hope for that.Bit ironic that you're talking about the 12th man at Ibrox and how important they'll be yet you're also telling fans to stay away because of their tactical opinions... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatPirateHooker 141 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 you say that as if we are a free flowing team at ibrox in europe 3 home goals in 4 european ties this season doesnt suggest that we are capable of scoring 2 goals next weekWould you bet your granny we dont score 3 at home?It still has a effect with results of 0-0, and 2-1 to us. Free flowing football hardly required for either of those outcomes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappa 24 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 PSV can now do what we did every second leg on the way to manchestersit in and hit us on the breakpotentially next week will be THE most boring game ever as both teams sit in their own half It could also be quite exciting if both teams go all out for a goal. 1 goal wins it, imo. It's not going to be a high scoring game so the first goal is huge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 This is what annoys me about this forum.Disagree with a poster, debate it etc etc but why the need for stuff like 'go and support someone else then'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I suspect 50% of the posters on this thread are either manic depressives, tims or bothTry telling the Bears in Eindhoven it was a shite result Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djgazbcm 55 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 If yer auntie had baws she wid be yer uncleif u had baws ,u wouldnae be a fanny . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogbg 20 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 PSV can now do what we did every second leg on the way to manchestersit in and hit us on the breakpotentially next week will be THE most boring game ever as both teams sit in their own half Should be a classic.But, seriously, that's exactly the difference between our away games in Europe in 2008 and the one next week. That style won't work against us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
watp1690rfc 32 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 we've kept 1 clean sheet at ibrox in europe this season, and a piss poor sporting lisbon still managed a goalAch well lets just chuck the towel in eh. Take it u wont be at the game.Theres really no much point is there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatPirateHooker 141 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 This is what annoys me about this forum.Disagree with a poster, debate it etc etc but why the need for stuff like 'go and support someone else then'?I suspect 50% of the posters on this thread are either manic depressives, tims or bothTry telling the Bears in Eindhoven it was a shite resultWell timed post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,934 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Would you bet your granny we dont score 3 at home?It still has a effect with results of 0-0, and 2-1 to us. Free flowing football hardly required for either of those outcomes.odds are against us both keeping a clean sheet and managing to score 2 goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd true bluenose 86 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 We have held out in the game for a draw.Full game Alexander pulls off 1 great save & PSV pull off a good save from Bartleys header in 2nd half.Away goals count as double give me a break, (yes they are advantage against home goals) but Boab the way you point out is like we could win 2-1 next week and be made play extra time.In the end Rangers done extremely well with the resources we had to pull off a draw tonight and it is all in our hands next week to take us into the quarter finals.correct bit will walter sit in and go for penalties ? i hope not but not to confident to be honest!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd true bluenose 86 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 We have held out in the game for a draw.Full game Alexander pulls off 1 great save & PSV pull off a good save from Bartleys header in 2nd half.Away goals count as double give me a break, (yes they are advantage against home goals) but Boab the way you point out is like we could win 2-1 next week and be made play extra time.In the end Rangers done extremely well with the resources we had to pull off a draw tonight and it is all in our hands next week to take us into the quarter finals.correct bit will walter sit in and go for penalties ? i hope not but not to confident to be honest!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 This is what annoys me about this forum.Disagree with a poster, debate it etc etc but why the need for stuff like 'go and support someone else then'?What annoys me about this forum is moaning bastards who can't. see a great European result when it's staring them in the faceTo be honest many of them hoped we would go out against Lisbon and again v PSVI'm really glad I don't know anyone in real life with a defeatist attitude like that It does make me wonder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,934 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Ach well lets just chuck the towel in eh. Take it u wont be at the game.Theres really no much point is there.no you dont chuck in the towelbut why we cannot make it easy for ourselves ill never know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatPirateHooker 141 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 odds are against us both keeping a clean sheet and managing to score 2 goalsAnd what? It's not likley therefore it wont happen?There isnt any scoreline that's likley unless you know otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappa 24 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Away goals do NOT count double. How can you follow a football team for years and think this?In the result of a tie on aggregate over two legs, the team with the most away goals will progress. They're basically an extra goal, of course they count double. Drawing 1-1 at home but then drawing 2-2 away. You haven't scored any more goals than the other team but you progress because they count as an extra goal.Unless you think that I think losing 2-1 tonight and then drawing 0-0 next week would result in us going through because we have an away goal? I know that isn't the case. Losing 2-1 tonight we'd still NEED to score one next week. I'm well aware of that. What it does do though is cancel out any potential away goal they get, which could be deadly in the tie when it's 0-0 on aggregate with no away tie left to rectify it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,934 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 What annoys me about this forum is moaning bastards who can't are a great European result when it's staring them in the faceaye and that great european result could very well be undone by one simple goalwe (the moaners) are asking for at least some form of attacking football tonight, i fully understand that we are the weker of the 2 teams, and in worse form than PSVbut at least make an effort to trouble them, our 2 best moments came in the game from 2 players who arent even ours ffsif PSV get lucky next week and score early on, we simply do not have 2 goals in us imo, and this seasons european campaign proves that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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