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The tax authorities have denied claims that Rangers Football Club is being treated unfairly over its tax debts.

Craig Whyte, who took over the club last year, had suggested that officials seemed to be determined to "make an example" of Rangers.

The Ibrox club was forced into administration last week over an unpaid tax bill of £9m.

HMRC said its action against Rangers was a last resort and that it did not do deals on tax with companies.

A spokesman for HMRC said: "We can't discuss specific cases for legal reasons, but tax that has been deducted at source from the wages of players and support staff, such as ground keepers and physios, must be paid over to HMRC.

"Any business that fails to meet that basic legal requirement puts the survival of the business at risk."

In a statement issued on Tuesday, Mr Whyte said: "Given that HMRC had seen fit to reach agreements with huge corporations owing far more than Rangers - Vodafone, for example - it was difficult to understand why they were being so inflexible unless, of course, they were simply determined to make an example of Rangers."

But that suggestion was flatly rejected by the HMRC spokesman.

He added: "Any business that regards paying tax as an optional extra after other expenses are met, or that uses tax collected from employees or customers as working capital, is potentially heading for trouble.

"There is little HMRC can do for a business - be it a football club or not - whose viability is dependent either on not paying the UK taxes to which they are liable, or on special treatment not available to other customers with similar tax affairs."

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"Any business that fails to meet that basic legal requirement puts the survival of the business at risk"

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I would believe Whyte over those "we don't do deals" lying bastards at HMRC, voda/goldman/Arsenal to name a few, they are upset 'arry stiffed them good and proper and every fucker laughing they went to court and wasted £10 million of taxpayers over no evidence, they are the fucks that should be jailed for collusion and fuckin incompetence. 10310.gif

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The tax authorities have denied claims that Rangers Football Club is being treated unfairly over its tax debts.

Craig Whyte, who took over the club last year, had suggested that officials seemed to be determined to "make an example" of Rangers.

The Ibrox club was forced into administration last week over an unpaid tax bill of £9m.

HMRC said its action against Rangers was a last resort and that it did not do deals on tax with companies.

A spokesman for HMRC said: "We can't discuss specific cases for legal reasons, but tax that has been deducted at source from the wages of players and support staff, such as ground keepers and physios, must be paid over to HMRC.

"Any business that fails to meet that basic legal requirement puts the survival of the business at risk."

In a statement issued on Tuesday, Mr Whyte said: "Given that HMRC had seen fit to reach agreements with huge corporations owing far more than Rangers - Vodafone, for example - it was difficult to understand why they were being so inflexible unless, of course, they were simply determined to make an example of Rangers."

But that suggestion was flatly rejected by the HMRC spokesman.

He added: "Any business that regards paying tax as an optional extra after other expenses are met, or that uses tax collected from employees or customers as working capital, is potentially heading for trouble.

"There is little HMRC can do for a business - be it a football club or not - whose viability is dependent either on not paying the UK taxes to which they are liable, or on special treatment not available to other customers with similar tax affairs."

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"Any business that fails to meet that basic legal requirement puts the survival of the business at risk"

The Vodafone case was about a disputed capital gains tax bill. They took over a German company called Mannesmann, and then almost immediately sold one of its subsidiaries, Orange, to satisfy competition authorities. The dispute would be about how much of the purchase price of Mannesmann related to Orange, and therefore how much of a profit, if any, they made from selling Orange. Valuations are pretty subjective, and that's why HMRC might choose to agree a deal with them.

I'm pretty sure Vodafone pay the basic PAYE on staff salaries and VAT on phone bills every month without any fuss, so no direct comparison with Rangers there. I don't know if Vodafone used EBTs to pay director's bonuses, but if they did, presumably HMRC would look at them as closely as they are at Rangers. They are more likely to work at Vodafone if there is no clause in the contract saying they are entitled to the bonus.

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I would believe Whyte over those "we don't do deals" lying bastards at HMRC, voda/goldman/Arsenal to name a few, they are upset 'arry stiffed them good and proper and every fucker laughing they went to court and wasted £10 million of taxpayers over no evidence, they are the fucks that should be jailed for collusion and fuckin incompetence. 10310.gif

After everyone found out about the vodafone deal that when HMRC stopped doing deals. HMRC did offer Whyte a deal and then whyte tried to offer them less than what they had tried to agree with him.

I canny believe people would still believe Craig Whyte over anyone.

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HMRC are referring to this as if it were the small tax case. CW was talking about the big tax case when referring to the vodafone case.

They are trying to screw us over for publicity in the big tax case. The small tax case is maybe a bit more questionable. We should be paying our PAYE and NI without any question. However they may well have had their backs up about the big case and tried to screw us on that too. We will know soon enough.

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After everyone found out about the vodafone deal that when HMRC stopped doing deals. HMRC did offer Whyte a deal and then whyte tried to offer them less than what they had tried to agree with him.

I canny believe people would still believe Craig Whyte over anyone.

I can't believe you're posting in a topic that's not about Sellick.

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The same Tax People who have been leaking info to the Pacific Shelf 595 Limited minded beasts.

Criminal activity that has NOT been acted upon internally, and no Police involvement.

The plod were quick enough to take the file from AJ on the takeover though. The whole thing stinks.

Everyone knows why, but in the new scottish republic the truth is not welcomed.

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After everyone found out about the vodafone deal that when HMRC stopped doing deals. HMRC did offer Whyte a deal and then whyte tried to offer them less than what they had tried to agree with him.

I canny believe people would still believe Craig Whyte over anyone.

A bet you still believe in equitable tax chappy, after they got found out PMFSL. craphead2.gif

Who needs enemies wi punters like you posting shit. 10310.gif

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Doesn't make a difference, the crux is that they let Them

Away with billions but won't cut a reasonable deal with us.

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there is no deal to be cut until the ruling is out

anything else is coming from whyte

i never thought i would believe the taxman

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The tax authorities have denied claims that Rangers Football Club is being treated unfairly over its tax debts.

Craig Whyte, who took over the club last year, had suggested that officials seemed to be determined to "make an example" of Rangers.

The Ibrox club was forced into administration last week over an unpaid tax bill of £9m.

HMRC said its action against Rangers was a last resort and that it did not do deals on tax with companies.

A spokesman for HMRC said: "We can't discuss specific cases for legal reasons, but tax that has been deducted at source from the wages of players and support staff, such as ground keepers and physios, must be paid over to HMRC.

"Any business that fails to meet that basic legal requirement puts the survival of the business at risk."

In a statement issued on Tuesday, Mr Whyte said: "Given that HMRC had seen fit to reach agreements with huge corporations owing far more than Rangers - Vodafone, for example - it was difficult to understand why they were being so inflexible unless, of course, they were simply determined to make an example of Rangers."

But that suggestion was flatly rejected by the HMRC spokesman.

He added: "Any business that regards paying tax as an optional extra after other expenses are met, or that uses tax collected from employees or customers as working capital, is potentially heading for trouble.

"There is little HMRC can do for a business - be it a football club or not - whose viability is dependent either on not paying the UK taxes to which they are liable, or on special treatment not available to other customers with similar tax affairs."

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"Any business that fails to meet that basic legal requirement puts the survival of the business at risk"

whyte forced the tax man into this knowing they would put us in administration.

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Was it difficult for us to deal with HMRC because of the:

Vodafone deal ?

CW history with them ?

It is Rangers ?

CW tried to be to smart (not) ?

Tims- no one likes us ?

Or if you are mega paranoid ? All of the above.

The only thing I am still not clear about is, why was it allowed to go on for so long! Was there stacks of tax demands behind the door at ibrox. <cr>

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