legalbeagle 3,734 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Over the last few weeks, we have seen a number of different actions undertaken by fans.Two things jump out at me, firstly was the boycott the SFA campaign, trying to hit sponsors and trying to get the SFA to take notice. We saw William Hill as running around trying to sort themselves out with it, etc, we demanded responses and pushed and pushed until some were claiming a degree of a victory on our march to Hampden.Secondly, obviously, is the anti-Bill Miller campaign, bombarding aggressive e-mails at his company, facebook page, etc, and probably disrupting his business, as well as more obvious displays at the stadium (even threats of pitch invasions and all sorts).The point is, can we claim that protesting works, apart from the one occasion when the person it was directed at actually says it had an impact? Or, if we don't think it works, should we all just save our time for any future campaigns? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Atheist 178 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I would have said no but when 7000 marched with Sandy Jardine... that was some powerful shit.And theres the uprising in the Arab countries recently. More powerful shit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemisis 358 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Yes Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Give newco the red card was well received.....and followed up by a desperate support accepting just that.Miller didn't pull out of the deal because of any protest, that was down to finances.The only sponsors that the protest affected were one's whose deals had already ended.So, when it involves money, probably not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepeter 5,627 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I don't think we'll see the same people protesting again at Ibrox, given that so many of them claim their protest had no effect on Miller. Why waste money on banners? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I don't think we'll see the same people protesting again at Ibrox, given that so many of them claim their protest had no effect on Miller. Why waste money on banners?Hopefully, there will be nothing else which neefs such action to be taken. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepeter 5,627 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Hopefully, there will be nothing else which neefs such action to be taken.Apparently nothing needs such action to be taken, because the action is completely ineffective. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Apparently nothing needs such action to be taken, because the action is completely ineffective.How was it ineffective? In the end up it wasn't needed with regard to the Miller bid, but there's still D&P and other bidders. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepeter 5,627 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 How was it ineffective?Because, as you among others have told us repeatedly, it had no effect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Because, as you among others have told us repeatedly, it had no effect.Miller pulled out because he didn't have the funds to plough into the financial black hole. His wee dig made good copy for the media, but was merely a smokescreen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 protesting does work. you get to see which bidders are whiny bitches when you protest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepeter 5,627 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Miller pulled out because he didn't have the funds to plough into the financial black hole. His wee dig made good copy for the media, but was merely a smokescreen.So the banners and emails had no effect? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gersandy 594 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I would have said no but when 7000 marched with Sandy Jardine... that was some powerful shit.And theres the uprising in the Arab countries recently. More powerful shit.Ha ha. Classic, comparing 7000 football fans walking to a stadium, to the millions of people uprising in the arab world. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 So the banners and emails had no effect?I already answered that a couple of posts back.You obviously think it did, as you're entitled to. If you were happy with a newco being formed, I can understand why you would take that view. Others weren't happy about it and made their feelings known. Get over it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepeter 5,627 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I already answered that a couple of posts back.You obviously think it did, as you're entitled to. If you were happy with a newco being formed, I can understand why you would take that view. Others weren't happy about it and made their feelings known. Get over it.In one post you claim the banners had no effect, in another you claim they had an effect. When asked again to clarify, you invent my position and tell me to get over it? Bravo sir, fine stuff! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 In one post you claim the banners had no effect, in another you claim they had an effect. When asked again to clarify, you invent my position and tell me to get over it? Bravo sir, fine stuff! Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 So if Dingwall doesn't like this consortium because they outbid the group he backs do we expect to see the winged monkeys released this weekendIf some think names being kept from the press due to this is a good thing they must be simpletons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I already answered that a couple of posts back.You obviously think it did, as you're entitled to. If you were happy with a newco being formed, I can understand why you would take that view. Others weren't happy about it and made their feelings known. Get over it.Casey, you pulled me up for falling for spin a few days ago....when were those protests ever about newco's ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 if some are daft enough to believe that's why names are being hidden........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 The risk isn't being taken again due to tactics employed by a blue knights spokesman, it's that simple. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Casey, you pulled me up for falling for spin a few days ago....when were those protests ever about newco's ?I have no idea what the true nature of the protests was, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were self-serving acts. For me though, they were critical of Miller's plans to set up a newco, and therefore I approved of them. Like the 'attacks' on Whyte last year, I don't care where they come from. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 The risk isn't being taken again due to tactics employed by a blue knights spokesman, it's that simple.sure it is. banners are that powerful. so are the rst. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I have no idea what the true nature of the protests was, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were self-serving acts. For me though, they were critical of Miller's plans to set up a newco, and therefore I approved of them. Like the 'attacks' on Whyte last year, I don't care where they come from.They were driven by a blue knights spokesman....this can't be compared to getting rid of whyte. Miller being right or wrong is not he point here, tbk's sabotaging other bids because they have more "quantum" is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 sure it is. banners are that powerful. so are the rst.The rstIt was the moronfromdelmonte and Dingwall that whipped this up.If you like to describe them as powerful so be it.... Any moron can cause disruption, look at you on here Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 The rstIt was the moronfromdelmonte and Dingwall that whipped this up.If you like to describe them as powerful so be it.... Any moron can cause disruption, look at you on here powerful enough to have London bidder whimpering in their basement it seems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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